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Routes / Re: getting from airport in Portland to Astoria
« on: August 19, 2015, 03:15:03 pm »
As for getting to the Oregon Coast from Portland, here's a pertinent link to an old forum post that contains other pertinent links to other older forum posts:
http://www.adventurecycling.org/forums/index.php?topic=9240.msg46341#msg46341


If you are biking to Astoria, I do recommend taking the 202/47/Banks-Vernonia trail from Portland to the coast. It is very rural and very quiet in terms of traffic and people. It drops you off in Astoria, the northernmost point on US 101 on the Oregon Coast.
Links to maps:
http://www.portlandonline.com/transportation/index.cfm?&a=316549&c=36638

There aren't many services, but there's just enough. Grocery stores can be found at Banks (fairly sizeable) and Vernonia (less so.) Only a couple of country markets with short hours in between after that.

The route from Astoria to Hillsboro (Portland westside suburb) is 100 miles. You can break it into two days by camping at Big Eddy County Park which is about 60 miles in. Few, if any, lodging options are found on this route so if you are doing a credit card tour you should be prepared to do the 100 miles in a straight shot. Possible, but there are two small passes to contend with on the route.

If you want to take a bus, The NW Point bus goes to Seaside/Astora, and runs twice daily.
http://www.northwest-point.com/

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General Discussion / Re: Northern Tier or better idea?
« on: August 09, 2015, 03:30:13 pm »
Looks like the train and bus station are close so it might work if there are no hiccups.  If not, I spend the night in Portland, which is a great option, take the train to Hillsboro the next day and ride from there.   Thanks again.

If you look at that schedule again, you'll note that the bus stops at Union Station (Amtrak) at 3:35pm. As long as the train is on time, it would work, barring that the bike racks are full. If there are no mobility device users, a driver can allow bikes on board (at their discretion.)

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General Discussion / Re: Northern Tier or better idea?
« on: August 09, 2015, 02:10:31 pm »
Do you know anything about the bike rack on the bus?  I have a front fender and an OMM front Sherpa rack.  Most of the bus racks that I see clamp to the front tire where the fender is so would require me to remove my fender and rack which means I would have to bring an extra front skewer since the OMM skewer is longer and doesn't work without the rack.

It has a hook for the front wheel. I've used countless of front-of-bus bike racks with my bikes, which all have fenders and most have front racks, and I haven't had many issues. Yeah, it's better if the fender and rack was not there so the hook can go as far back as possible, but I've only found it to be an issue if the spring on the hook is getting worn, or if the bus driver is driving like a bat out of hell (and when that's the case, there are more issues than just my bike!) And some of the longer-distance buses will allow for the use of a bungee (or have a bungee to use) to keep the bike more stable.

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General Discussion / Re: Northern Tier or better idea?
« on: August 09, 2015, 01:20:10 pm »
I am now considering the Wilson River route instead of the Nestucca River route to the coast mostly because the three capes area sounds pretty nice.  Would you say it's worth it?

Route 6/Wilson River Hwy is fairly busy. Not as busy as US 26 or US 30, but busy enough. The Coast Range summit is lower and more gentle, and the shoulder is generally decent, but if I had the choice between that route and the Nestucca route, I'd go with Nestucca.

Also to note, the last time I checked, the Three Capes Scenic Route is closed between Bayocean Road and Cape Meares, so you won't be able to do it. If you want to go to Cape Meares, you'd have to do it as an out and back. So there's not as much advantage to using the Wilson River Hwy, unless you want to go through Tillamook, which has its famous cheese factory (and a couple large grocery stores.) Cape Lookout is a cool place to spend the night, but it's not impossible to get there via the Nestucca route (either going over the Cape or going up through Tillamook.)

If pressed for time, you can take the Tillamook Wave bus from downtown Portland to Tillamook.
http://www.tillamookbus.com/schedules.htm

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General Discussion / Re: Northern Tier or better idea?
« on: July 26, 2015, 01:17:00 pm »
To the OP, another thing to note if you use the Nestucca River Route:
While counter-intuitive, when you finally get to US 101, you want to turn right, i.e. go north for about 3 miles then turn left on Sandlake Road. The section of US 101 from Tillamook to Pacific City is narrow, shoulderless, and busy. Going the alternate gets you onto quieter, scenic roads.
https://goo.gl/maps/YSrIq

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General Discussion / Re: Northern Tier or better idea?
« on: July 26, 2015, 12:57:28 pm »
Are you saying it takes an hour on light rail to Hillsboro?

Yep.

How easy is it to put a loaded touring bike on the train?

Not hard at all. There are four hooks per low-level car to hang bikes. When I've brought a loaded bike, I've taken off the panniers to get it on the hook. There are also a few open spots that a bike can "lean" against, but these spots are priority for wheelchair/mobility device users.

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General Discussion / Re: Northern Tier or better idea?
« on: July 26, 2015, 12:24:38 am »
Thanks for the info and the links.  I saw the same route to the coast but thinking of taking this one http://www.portlandoregon.gov/transportation/article/301633 from Hillsboro to Beaver.   I could be talked into heading to Astoria but again I would like to go as far south as I can in the limited time that I have...No idea what Hillsboro is like and hoping there are reasonable motels or B and Bs in the area.

That route is a good route, but do note a few things about it: There is about 2 miles of gravel, which I find fine, but for some people any unpaved is a deal-breaker. And while it is the quietest route to the coast it has the highest climb (2,000 feet) and is the steepest, with a good five miles at 8-10% grade.

Hillsboro is pretty suburban. There are some motels around, don't know about B and Bs. But why not stay in Portland and then take the light rail out to Hillsboro? It's just about an hour ride from downtown Portland.

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General Discussion / Re: Northern Tier or better idea?
« on: July 24, 2015, 07:07:45 pm »
Now just need to find an interesting way to get to the coast from Portland.

As for getting to the Oregon Coast from Portland, here's a pertinent link to an old forum post that contains other pertinent links to other older forum posts:
http://www.adventurecycling.org/forums/index.php?topic=9240.msg46341#msg46341

I do recommend taking the 202/47/Banks-Vernonia trail from Portland to the coast. It is very rural and very quiet in terms of traffic and people. It drops you off in Astoria, the northernmost point on US 101 on the Oregon Coast.
Links to maps:
http://www.portlandonline.com/transportation/index.cfm?&a=316549&c=36638

I've never taken 30 the full way from Astoria to Portland, just the portion from Portland-Rainier and Clatskanie-Wesport, so I've missed the worst parts of US 30. But even that little bit makes me prefer the 202/47/Banks-Vernonia routing.

There aren't many services, but there's just enough. Make sure you're stocked when leaving Astoria, as there isn't another full service grocery until Vernonia, about 70 miles down the road. Only a couple of country markets with short hours in between.

The route from Astoria to Hillsboro (Portland westside suburb) is 100 miles. You can break it into two days by camping at Big Eddy County Park which is about 60 miles in. Few, if any, lodging options are found on this route so if you are doing a credit card tour you should be prepared to do the 100 miles in a straight shot. Possible, but there are two small passes to contend with on the route.

There are also two bus options from Portland to the coast: The NW Point bus to Seaside/Astoria, or the Wave to Tillamook. Both run twice daily.
http://www.northwest-point.com/
http://www.tillamookbus.com/schedules.htm

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Routes / Re: Ochco Divide Campground on Trans-Am (Oregon)
« on: July 21, 2015, 06:17:03 pm »
Ok, an update:

I checked in with Good Bike and they had no info, since most touring cyclists that they've encountered don't stay at Ochoco Divide.

But I tried the Forest Service again and managed to get a hold of someone that did know the campground. And it turns out that the "Bike Site" is simply the group site, which is reservable online. They don't have a typical hiker/biker site, like you'd find on the Oregon coast at a state park.

Yes, a bit confusing, but now I know!

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Routes / Re: Ochco Divide Campground on Trans-Am (Oregon)
« on: July 16, 2015, 04:40:51 pm »
I sent this out on Twitter to help you find the answer. Someone forwarded it to Good Bike Co in Prineville. They might know something, I'd check with them: http://goodbikeco.com/

Thanks, Jenn! I'll definitely check in with Good Bike.

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Routes / Re: Ochco Divide Campground on Trans-Am (Oregon)
« on: July 16, 2015, 01:28:31 pm »
The web site says you can make reservations. Maybe call Reserve America at 1-877-444-6777, at least for the fee question.

It looks like the only thing reserveable is the group site, so I don't think they'd be much help, either.

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Routes / Ochco Divide Campground on Trans-Am (Oregon)
« on: July 15, 2015, 05:24:24 pm »
I'm doing some research for a tour through Eastern Oregon that I'll be riding later this summer. I'll be using the Trans-Am for parts of it. When checking out the website for the Ochoco Divide Campground on US 26 about 30 miles west of Prineville, I noticed that the PDF map indicates a "bike site" just to the right of site no. 25. This was the first I heard of this! I wanted to find out some more info, but the web page for the sites says nothing. I actually called Ochoco NF to find out more, but was a fruitless endeavor. (Which unfortunately happens frequently when I try to contact a national forest.)

So I'm asking you fine folks if you know anything about this bike site at Ochoco Divide, esp. if you've used it in the last couple years. What I'd like to know is:
  • How much does the site cost? Is it a "per-person" fee like most hiker/biker sites?
  • Is it a group site that would fit multiple cyclists, or is it only intended for one party?

Pertinent links:
The web page for Ochoco Divide CG: http://www.fs.usda.gov/wps/portal/fsinternet/!ut/p/c4/04_SB8K8xLLM9MSSzPy8xBz9CP0os3gDfxMDT8MwRydLA1cj72BTJw8jAwjQL8h2VAQAzHJMsQ!!?ss=110601&ttype=recarea&recid=38724&actid=70&navtype=BROWSEBYSUBJECT&position=BROWSEBYSUBJECT&navid=110410000000000&pnavid=110000000000000&cid=null&pname=Ochoco+NF-Ochoco+West+-+Prineville+Area+-+Ochoco+Divide+Campground
map of the campsite: http://www.fs.usda.gov/Internet/FSE_DOCUMENTS/stelprd3829112.pdf

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Routes / Re: Transam West to East; Florence or Astoria?
« on: July 12, 2015, 12:13:35 pm »
If you want to opt for a few less miles or feel the logistics work better for Florence it is an OK place to start, but I am baffled that anyone would find the start in Astoria awful.  I thought that part of the coast was very pleasant.

I think a lot of it has to do with how tolerant one of is traffic while riding. For some folks, they can only fixate on that, rather than all the beautiful scenery around.

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Routes / Re: Transam West to East; Florence or Astoria?
« on: July 11, 2015, 10:47:27 pm »
You asked "When do you plan on starting?"  Per my post; "I will be riding from Oregon to Canon City, CO on the transam starting in early August." In my case, early August is Aug 8.   And indeed it was the traffic and lack of shoulders that the cyclist was referring to.   

Oops, missed that part. I think if you avoided the weekend, you should be better, since the traffic will be heavier then. So maybe wait until Monday August 10th to depart from Astoria? And make sure you use any "get off 101" routings you can!

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