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General Discussion / Re: touring without "eating out"
« on: April 10, 2013, 01:34:11 pm »
Freeze dried food is emergency rations, in my book.  Take some for the day when it's getting dark and you're miles from nowhere, but have adequate water.  After a long day's exercise, a two-person pouch is about right for one person.

My daughter introduced me to "hippie pasta."  Pretty good; start with pasta, boil it, add vegetables (fresh, frozen, or canned) to taste, add a pack of chicken or can of tuna, and some cheese or Velveeta.  Vary proportions of ingredients to taste.  Maybe substitute rice for pasta.  Plenty of cheap calories in pasta or rice, more than you'll get from the freeze-dried meal.  Finish off with an apple, or a pint of blackberries or cherries.

General Discussion / Re: Weather on the TransAm
« on: April 10, 2013, 01:25:15 pm »
On a separate note, what are day-to-day expenses like if I camp along the route, and to what extent do I need to plan accommodation / camp sites in advance?

If you're starting early August in the west, it might be a good idea to plan at least the weekends for the first month.  August is prime vacation time, and with the sparse population in the west, there's not a whole lot of places to stay; they can fill up pretty fast.  After Labor Day (first Monday in September), everybody goes back to work or school. 

Also, as you work your way east, there's usually another town within 15-20 miles, vs. 50-75 miles between towns on the TA west of Kansas.  The only problem you might have is with home football games around university towns in Virginia (Christiansburg is close to Virginia Tech, and Virginia is in Charlottesville).  Aim for 25 miles either side of those on Friday and Saturday, and you should be good.

Gear Talk / Re: Rack mounted tail lights
« on: April 06, 2013, 11:54:28 pm »
Busch and Muller makes Toplights that are rear rack mounts.  If you've got a dynamo, they're great.  If you get a battery powered light, my experience is that they'll come apart and fall off when you hit a bump.  Maybe you could make it work with a rubber band to hold the light together.

Gear Talk / Re: No Stove
« on: April 06, 2013, 09:24:27 pm »
Granola bars and peanut butter sandwiches are OK I guess while riding and you have no good place to stop for food.  But never ever supper.  When you set up camp for the night you are in town or close to town or you just went through a town.  There should always be a place to get real food close to your camp spot.  Or get food before getting to your camp spot.  I would never tolerate granola bars and peanut butter sandwiches for supper ever.

Granola bars and PBJ would fall into "emergency rations" in my categorization -- useful if a torrential rain forces you into a tent or barn unexpectedly, or headwinds kick up and stop you in your tracks miles from downtown Nowhere.

I can see it'd be tough to manage a vegetarian diet at cafes and gas station/convenience stores in small towns -- like most of the TransAm.  If you're willing to eat some of the cows and chickens you rode past earlier in the day, it'd be much less trouble.

Routes / Northern Tier, Cascade passes 2013
« on: April 05, 2013, 10:52:33 am »
Washington DOT has been talking about opening these passes early this year (May 1?!), and it looks like they might come through.  The east side crew, that has to deal with Spiral Gulch and Liberty Bell avalanche zones, made it to the top of Washington Pass yesterday.  IIRC, that's where they've usually met the west side crew in previous years.

Keep an eye on their status page:  Just 12 miles to go -- plus cleaning up any avalanches that might come down.

Gear Talk / Re: Ergonomic Handlebars for Surly LHT?
« on: April 05, 2013, 10:44:35 am »
First question, are you feeling any pain?  Do you need to change something?

If so, perhaps the place to start would be getting a stem that brings the stock bars up to seat level (if it's lower than that) and perhaps back toward your saddle.  The bike shop where you bought it should be able to help with that, or any competent shop can help you check out alternate stems and swap them for you.

You can spend a lot of time and money swapping bars.

General Discussion / Re: Shipping Supplies to Yourself
« on: April 05, 2013, 10:37:18 am »
There's a fine art in shipping things to a cyclist on the road.  You guess how long it'll take the package to get to you, guess how long it'll take the person or company to actually ship the box, guess how far you'll ride in that total amount of time, and pick a post office in a small town(with zip code) off your AC map.  (Nowadays, of course, you can look the zip up on the web.)

USPS is the way to go.  They'll hold the package for you, and if you hit town 30 minutes after they close at noon on a Saturday, pull out a piece of paper, address it to "Postmaster," and ask them politely to ship it the the town you think you'll be in next Tuesday or Wednesday, fold it over, and drop it in the outgoing mail box inside the post office.  It's a free service from the Post Office.  (So far...)

You can ship to yourself on a one month trip, but if you're going longer than that, you'll need some one to ship to you.  Cell phones make it easier to stay in touch and request stuff; before cell phones and the web, AT through hikers had to send a post card from Hot Springs, NC asking friends or family to ship the box to Damascus, VA, where they'd send another post card, and so forth.

Routes / Re: Connecting to TransAm from Waynesville/Asheville NC area
« on: April 04, 2013, 02:01:27 pm »
Dan's suggestion of the Blue Ridge Parkway is viable, but it's going to be tough -- you'd start by going over the highest point of the BRP, a bit over 6,000'.  A hard way to get started!

Do a search for Mark Boyd's tours, as he's done a fair number starting out of Asheville.  I'd get a brother to drive to Asheville or preferably Mars Hill if you're going over 23 or 19.  The direct route from Waynesville to Hot Springs is way curvy  and hilly, from what I hear -- 5 hours drive for 30 miles!?  I-40 west is a no-go unless you hitch a ride to Tennessee; no shoulders, heavy traffic, and BTW it's illegal on a bike (for good reason).

19E can be a bit busy for my taste, depending on day of week and time of day, but it is beautiful.  Avoid NC 226 unless you're a glutton for punishment.

(Disclaimer: I haven't gone over 23/19W since they started interstate 26, though I'd expect low / local traffic on 23.)  If you take 23 or 19W into Tennessee, TN 91/133 through Shady Valley is quite pleasant after you get out of the Elizabethton suburbs, and takes you straight into Damascus.

Routes / Re: Cycling from SFO airport - Western express
« on: April 02, 2013, 09:41:41 pm »
If I were flying into SFO from Europe, I'd be looking to check into a motel for a night -- you'll arrive in the middle of the night, body clock time.  That also gives you a chance to sort your gear, check the bike over, etc., as well as deal with jet lag.  Perhaps you can find a motel/hotel with an airport shuttle.

BART's an excellent idea as well.  Perhaps an arrival trip toward downtown, spend the night, and cross the bay the next morning?

General Discussion / Re: Training: Schedule Critique Needed
« on: March 30, 2013, 11:01:28 am »
Also, interval training is useful mostly for racers and other competitors.  It will help boost your conditioning but really isn't of much benefit to tourists.

While intervals can't replace saddle time for conditioning the butt, it helps in two areas.  As DaveB notes, it helps with general conditioning.  And it also seems to improve conditioning for what I'll call higher efforts.  These higher efforts can include hauling a heavier load that during your training rides, or climbing hills -- in other words the things that are different between just riding your bike and touring.

General Discussion / Re: Getting hungry too fast while riding
« on: March 30, 2013, 10:55:50 am »
1. Will cheese also be OK for 2-3 days at temperatures around 100 degF?
2. How will beef jerky hold up in the heat?

I've carried hard cheese for 3 days with temps in the 90s (F).  It gets oily, but it's still fine.  If you can buy it in a resealable pouch, that helps with packing.  Avoid shredded cheese and the soft cheeses.

Meat drying was invented to store it through the year.  Jerky will be fine.

Concerning a): When stuffing I feel great the first 3-4 hours, not sluggish or anything at all. I also tried what you recommend, but more to an extreme: Not eating breakfast at all for the first 15 mi (first hour of riding) until I reach a place to buy food. In these cases (which I really try to avoid) I feel completely wasted and empty on arrival. If you recommend snacks all day long, what sort of snacks would you suggest?

IMHO, go ahead and eat a good breakfast.  And lunch.  Just take it easy for the first hour or so after eating.  The only time you might reconsider is if you camped at the bottom of a big, steep mountain and have to start climbing immediately.

And since you've lost weight on previous tours, sounds like your caloric estimates are marginally low instead of high.

Gear Talk / Re: No Stove
« on: March 30, 2013, 10:43:09 am »
"No stove" is probably easy enough to do.  I'd suggest you plan on carrying one overnight's worth of no-cook food, just in case.  It can be as simple as buying lunch food for a day ahead, and call it dinner if weather, road conditions, etc., slows you down.

As Miller points out,fruits and vegetables seem pretty scarce from mid-Kansas to mid-Colorado.  Grocery stores help (lunch food).  I was pretty excited when I found a great salad bar in Pueblo; seemed like a long time since I'd seen one.

Routes / Re: Blue Ridge Parkway / Skyline Drive input
« on: March 29, 2013, 06:41:53 pm »
Blithering idiot congresscritters...

The AC Blue Ridge tour stopped near Otter Creek at a private campground.  Don't remember the road or the campground name, but you get off the Parkway about 1/4 mile south of the Otter Creek campground and ride up the hill about 1.25 miles.

Lots of motels near Roanoke, not sure about the nearest private campgrounds.

Crabtree's an interesting place; shame they're closing it.  There use to be some private campgrounds near Little Switzerland, about 5 miles north of Crabtree, and Mt Mitchell state park is about 20 miles south, but it only has 12 camp sites, IIRC.  That's one of the more remote stretches, with few services available.  Of course, once you hit Mt. Mitchell, it's all downhill!  In both directions! 

Mostly.  ;)

General Discussion / Re: Getting hungry too fast while riding
« on: March 29, 2013, 06:25:33 pm »
I usually figure I need refueling after about 30 miles.  (A big pancake, egg, and sausage breakfast might take me 40.)  Looks to me like your breakfast, BikeFreak, is heavily tilted towards carbs.  They vanish pretty fast from my digestive system unless there's something to slow them down, like fats and proteins. 

I'd suggest you think about adding meats or cheese to your mid-morning and mid-afternoon topping up.  Solid cheese (cheddar, pepperjack, etc.) will usually last 2-3 days if you buy it in a resealable bag.  Meats can be more perishable, but you can find small (3 oz or less) cans or bags of tuna, pepperoni, jerky, etc.  Add some fruit (oranges and apples) and crackers or bagels.  Think "Hobbit" and it's second breakfast and tea.

Some of this you can find at the gas/convenience store.  Some you'll have to spend an extra 5-10 minutes per day going through a grocery store to get.  Get Pete's fig newtons or Oreos while you're in there!

Gear Talk / Re: Looking for Rain Pants
« on: March 24, 2013, 08:46:10 pm »
  It seems to me that is useful information.  As is the fact that they apparently work well for some folks in their usage.

That is useful information, but not in the context of the OP quest. Opinionated responses to posts, especially when some one is seeking sources and not opinions,  just does not kick the can down the can down the road much.

Given the context of the thread (OP was asking for something I, and apparently others, thought was impossible); OP's irate response to the opinion it didn't exist; and OP's lack of response when I asked what he'd found -- I think the answer to the original question is that waterproof and breathable rain pants still don't exist!  That, IMHO, is not kicking the can down the road, it's a quasi-definitive response.  "No" may not be the answer that was sought, but it's helpful if the questioner can accept it.

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