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Gear Talk / Re: Biking Stores for getting touring bike in SF Bay Area
« on: November 01, 2011, 09:09:20 pm »
Chain Reaction Bicycles, down the peninsula in Redwood City, is one dealer that usually carries the Trek 520 (Trek's touring bike, about $1400 last time I looked).  Mike J, the owner, does mostly road day rides from what I can tell.  He was heavily involved back in the usenet days, and was a good man to discuss bicycle mechanics.

If he doesn't have a 520 in your size, you may have to wait until February-March timeframe, when the factory does its annual production run.

Gear Talk / Re: Rear hubs - Phil Wood and Chris King
« on: October 28, 2011, 04:06:06 pm »
Only slightly off topic, I hope; one of the guys I rode with this summer had one of the high-zoot rear hubs.  I don't remember if it was Chris King or Phil Wood -- I don't think it was a White hub.  IIRC, he'd bought it used 10-15 years ago, and it wsa still running fine.  The freehub on that thing sounded like a rattlesnake on steroids whenever he coasted, though.  Anyone have an idea which one it was?

Maybe that'd be a good idea in bear country!

General Discussion / Re: Stupid Hotel Question
« on: October 26, 2011, 09:27:19 am »
As John says, reserve your national park lodges ASAP.  Commercial bus tours seem to suck up most of the rooms by the third week in January.

We normally did not plan further than a couple days ahead.  From Virginia through Kansas there was almost always another town 1-2 hours away, and depending on heat, headwinds, and fatigue, we'd adjust our daily mileage.  From central Colorado northwest through Washington the towns were spaced about a day's travel apart for us; if you want to stay in a motel, you stretch or shrink that day's riding to fit.

On our blended TransAm and Northern Tier route, Guffey, CO, Jeffrey City, WY, and Newhalem, WA were the only "towns" there were no motels.  (If we'd had to, we could have stretched to Fairplay, CO, and Concrete, WA.)  Weekends in the northwest were often tight, but we managed to find a place every night we needed to. 

Hate to advertise for them, but I was amazed at Verizon's cell coverage. All across Kansas, and in almost every small town, we got a signal.  If you need to call ahead for reservations, you'll find coverage.  Often, though, we'd just split up and go to a couple of different motels and ask for room availability and prices.  I think we saved more with that strategy than AAA!

General Discussion / Re: About Colorado....
« on: October 20, 2011, 01:39:32 pm »
I am traveiling east to west next  summer, leaving 1st week of June.  I plan to go thru Colorado.  By when should I be out of there? Or what is the latest part of the summer that I can comfortably enter Colorado without hitting cold weather?


Slightly more seriously, the coldest part of my trip a couple years back was in Guffey, when it was 34F the morning of July 3.  I think you have to be prepared for frost just about any time at the higher elevations.  Now you don't have that high a probability of hitting snow, but it might be cold enough for it.

General Discussion / Re: Banff to San Francisco
« on: October 20, 2011, 10:13:25 am »
I wonder if we need to back off some of the vehement “No ways!” this discussion has engendered.  While I think there are some valid points being raised against a late winter trip, should this not be, “I wouldn’t do it!”?

To do the trip on the OP’s schedule would certainly require some changes from the way most of us “fair-weather” tourists do business.  It would require additional weight for warmer gear, perhaps in wheels and tires.  It would require more schedule flexibility, to wait out winter storms and snow plows.  It would require additional routing considerations, such as avoiding Highway 20 over Washington Pass and its 13 avalanche zones.

In short, it would be a different kind of touring from what most of us are used to.  It would be more like Iditabike for the first part of the trip than Crazyguyonabike.

Now, I think, and many of you will agree with me, people who ride Iditabike are crazy.

But when I bike to work, on fair days as well as foul, and even more when I talk about riding a century (metric or English), and especially when I talk about long bike tours (around the summer), most people think I’m crazy, too.

I’m reminded of an Appalachian Trail through-hiker I met several years ago, who finished her medical training and started hiking.  In the winter.  She and her husband used snowshoes in the Smokies to get through 6’ snow drifts.  Now, this is precisely why nobody hikes the AT in the winter.  But they did it.

Now I don’t bike commute when there’s snow or ice on the ground.  But some people do so routinely, and they discuss how they do it on sites like icebike.  So, after getting by “I wouldn’t because of [fill in the blank],” how could a crazy winter biker tourist actually ride such a trip?  What adaptations would be needed, how could they improve their chances of surviving and even enjoying the trip?  What resources can we point such crazy people to that will let them plan for such a trip, train and equip themselves, and maybe even do it?

In short, do we want to provide information and advice to let someone plan their bike trip, rather than try to reach a consensus among ourselves how someone else should do it?

Have you checked out the GPS routes and waypoints?

General Discussion / Re: Banff to San Francisco
« on: October 16, 2011, 08:52:53 pm »
First question is always, are you planning to camp and cook, or eat in restaurants and sleep in motels or B&Bs?

If you're going to camp, I'd suggest you plan on reducing your projected speed by at least a third.  I think most loaded tourists average 10-12 mph; I can do that unless there's a lot of climbing.  There are some people who can ride all day, sunrise to sunset, at that speed.  For me, 30 miles a day is good at the start, with some climbing, increasing to 60-70 miles a day after a month or so.  (Unless there's a lot of climbing that day!)  I'd say 50 miles a day is a good average for planning.

Costs are all over the place.  Some people claim to get by on $5 a day; I'll spend that much on snacks and drinks most days.  The sky is the limit on the high end -- it's easy to blow through $150 a day or more if you're moteling it and eating at fancy restaurants.  Some days, though, it's worth it for a hot shower, a roof over your head, and a great hot meal - maybe with a super local micro-brew.

Sounds like a great trip.  Let us know how you do!

Gear Talk / Re: Lighting Systems
« on: October 14, 2011, 09:29:00 am »
I just got a light kit from  It's LED frame lighting that you can configure in lots of different ways, for safety or show.  Totally weatherproof and battery lasts a long time, check it out

Just took a quick look (btw, whomever designed and built that site should be forced to work at the far end of a 300 baud modem for unthinking use of useless fancy crap that takes too long to load).  It looks like it's a way to make the bike visible, more than to light up the road in front of you.  I have some doubts on the utility of such an approach when you add packs.  It may look nice parked in front of an A&W, but can you see the bike through the panniers on the road?

General Discussion / Re: Miami Airport or Orlando Airport
« on: October 11, 2011, 07:43:13 pm »
I a little surprised the airline would sell you a ticket with an international connection that short.  I'd thought they recommended 2 hrs. minimum connection time for international flights.

Have you looked for limo or shuttle services going into Orlando?

South Atlantic / Re: Best [bicycling] roads from Asheville to Nashville
« on: October 11, 2011, 11:14:29 am »
I don't have first-hand knowledge of either of the routes being bruited about, but I'm curious as to what other search methods either of you (surlyjohn or bicyclerider) are using.

Have you tried google maps' bicycle routing?

Have you checked with the state transportation departments?

It appears there aren't any (many) Nashville or Birmingham cyclists on this board.  I'll claim some knowledge of viable routes for myself within about 30 miles of home, and a few, spotty, areas where I've lived, cycled, or toured.  So, have you contacted bicycle clubs along the holes in your routes?  I'm thinking of cycling clubs around McMinnville, Murphreesboro, Nashville, Franklin, or Columbia, TN; or Anniston, Birmingham, Tuscaloosa, AL and Meridian, MS, for the southern (Silver Comet) route.  Have you checked out all the supported rides any of these clubs do?  Is there a way you could link up some routes, with perhaps a few miles' cycling along unknown roads?

I'd be cautious about recommending some routes I ride for cyclists of unknown capabilities.  If you could tell me about what you ride, I might volunteer more information.  If/when you ask for help, can you tell someone what your comfort level is?  Do you require bike-only, no motorized vehicle paths; very low traffic routes with limited curves and hills; or are you comfortable with high-speed traffic and decent shoulders; or even urban cycling?  If I asked you, what's the highest traffic volume you've ridden comfortably in, can you answer?  (Hint - do you need to pick one local road, and call your county roads department to find out what the traffic volume is on that road?)  I'd think a local bike club would be more forthcoming if you included this kind of information in your request.

Finally, I applaud what you're trying to do.  There are posters on these boards who pick their own routes, as you're trying to do, but they usually have a couple of solid tours under their belts before trying it.  I think it's great that you're basically trying to replicate the work Adventure Cycling does on a semi-commercial basis, if even for your own use, without that much background.  Do keep us in the loop about your planning, and how it goes when you get on the road.

General Discussion / Re: Transcendence In Sports
« on: October 05, 2011, 08:29:23 pm »
in Transformative Studies at the California Institute of Integral Studies.
This subject and this facility could only exist in California.:)

Was that shown by a new study?  :)

General Discussion / Re: Light Touring
« on: October 05, 2011, 03:31:50 pm »
Welcome to the forum!

In reverse order, I really like my Ortliebs; their Sports Packer (Plus) should carry 15 pounds with no problems.

That's not a terribly heavy load, so I suspect you could carry it on a rear rack.  Depending on the bike you'll be riding, that might be easiest.  Some bikes, like those with a carbon fork, can carry a rear rack, but not a front rack.  You might even be able to carry your gear in a large saddle back (like some of the classic English bags carries).

The major advantage of front racks I can think of would be to allow you to carry extra water and food in a rear trunk bag, as well as a jacket, camera, etc.  The BRP has some long stretches with limited services.  The Sports Packers will fit either front or rear racks.

General Discussion / Re: Great Music For My Tour? Suggestions?
« on: October 03, 2011, 10:47:08 am »
I don't ride with headphones, but sometimes there's some music stuck in my head.  And then there's other times...

When I rode across the country with my daughter, I figured out she doesn't really wake up for a half hour after she starts riding.  I could usually judge her speed, and lead her, but not by so much that I'd lose her.  Until one day up in Montana: it was chilly, and I was ahead of her as usual, until a light blue blur went flying by me.  Well!  I had more in reserve that I was purposefully NOT using, but I was going to find out what was up with that young whippersnapper!

So I caught up with her, and asked, "What's going on?  Why are you so fast this morning?"  She answered, "I was cold, so I started pedaling to 'The Flight of the Bumblebee'."  I tried it, humming and using a little body English to mark the downbeats in the music.  It's a great way to speed up and warm up.

She thought I was funny.

Routes / Re: Natchez Trace Maps
« on: October 03, 2011, 09:20:22 am »
It's a national park, so poking around the web site you can find  Also note the Natchez Trace Parkway Maps link on the left side...

Gear Talk / Re: Could a cyclo-cross bike do?
« on: September 27, 2011, 10:28:25 am »
A true cyclocross bike has very little in common with a touring bike.  Don't confuse the two. 

Whittierider, hope you don't feel like I'm piling on.  Still, while I respect your position, and the one you cite, I think there's a couple of thing missing from that analysis.

First, OP was asking for a bike that can also do touring (in addition to everything else he wants to do).  For loaded touring, a loaded touring bike is obviously the best solution.  For fitness and fun riding, maybe something between a loaded touring bike and his current hybrid would be the best compromise.

Second, I think "cyclocross" means about as much as "hybrid" any more.  Just as hybrid can mean anything from a road bike with flat bars to a mountain bike with bars reaching for the sky, so CX can refer to almost anything between a full carbon road racing bike modified for wider tires, to an all-steel loaded touring bike frame with a double crank.  If you take the Surly Crosscheck as an example of the latter, check out the chainstay geometry.  16.9 inches, a little less than the 18.1 inch chainstay of the LHT, but at almost 17" it's still longer than almost any bike made ten years ago.  I'd call that a pretty good compromise, even if it's not optimal.

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