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Pacific Northwest / Re: Astoria to Boise
« on: October 16, 2012, 03:41:27 am »
Consider Estacada, Maupin, Fossil, John Day, to Ontario.  OR 224 turns into paved forest roads and tops out at Timothy Lake.

I rode from Estacada to Timothy Lake a couple years ago. There is about a 3-5 mile section of gravel before Timothy Lake, if you use the more direct Forest Service Road 5810. FS 58 is supposed to be paved the whole way, but is the longer routing. Still a beautiful, lightly trafficked ride in this area no matter what way you do it.

The gravel section of FS 5810 before Timothy Lake.

Pacific Northwest / Re: Astoria to Boise
« on: October 16, 2012, 12:09:15 am »
Hey Elbrento-

I've only ridden from Portland/Vancouver to The Dalles, OR, which is 100 miles west of Umatilla. My preferred routing would be skip SR 14 on the Washington side and ride the south (Oregon) side of the Columbia River Gorge at least until The Dalles.

SR 14 on the Washington side has its moments, but it can be narrow and busy, with narrow shoulders and more truck traffic than you want. Plus there is about eight tunnels to pass through between Dallesport and Carson.

If you travel on the Oregon side, you will have to ride on Interstate 84 for at least two sections, which is unavoidable and legal. The two sections are from Yeon State Park to Bonneville, about three miles (until they finish the trail in this section), and fifteen miles from Wyeth to Hood River. But you'll be able to ride on sections of the Historic Columbia River Highway (HCRH), with its spectacular views and low traffic. And some sections of the HCRH are off-limits to cars, so you'll have some peaceful riding! Crown Point, Chanticleer Point/Women's Forum, Multnomah Falls, and the Mosier Tunnels are just a few of the scenic highlights of the Oregon side. There is some great views on SR 14 too, namely Cape Horn, but the HCRH has lots more.

After The Dalles, I have no experience, but heard SR 14 is a better option than the Oregon side (I-84.)

Crown Point and the Columbia Gorge from Women's Forum.

Multnomah Falls.

LHT avec Horsetail Falls.

Gear Talk / Re: What kind of bike?
« on: October 06, 2012, 10:41:24 pm »
Sorry, I stand corrected.  I did get the discount during the Spring REI event, but this is a different sale.

Yeah. Sometimes bikes are included, sometimes they are not. I think they also have a special Novara bike sale at some point too. And I remember when I signed up for a membership, they give you a 15% off coupon for an REI/Novara branded item, forget if it worked for Novara bikes.

Classifieds / SOLD: Pletscher Twin-Leg Kickstand, silver color
« on: October 06, 2012, 07:51:13 pm »
Pletscher Twin-Leg Kickstand in decent condition. This kickstand mounts like most single-leg kickstands do, to the chainstays between rear tire and seat tube. When at rest, this kickstand tucks up near the left chainstay, just like most single-leg kickstands do. The big difference is that the two legs cause the rear (or front, depending on how your load is balanced) wheel to come off the ground, meaning the bike stays more stable than a regular one-leg kickstand. Great for touring bikes.


Gear Talk / Re: What kind of bike?
« on: October 06, 2012, 07:43:11 pm »
FWIW, the fall sale at REI is going on right now and you can get an item such as the Novara Randonee for under $1000 with the members' sale coupon.

FWIW, the 20% off is not towards bikes:
Scroll down to Full Coupon Details and Exclusions

Routes / Re: Detailed maps
« on: October 04, 2012, 02:53:24 pm »
Hello Niel!

Re: Yellowstone-
There are usually free maps of every US National Park. These are pretty basic, but do help in orienting yourself. I prefer using the maps that National Geographic makes for the parks. They are not specifically for bicycling, but are at a larger scale than the freebie maps, and are laminated to be water  and tear resistant:

Re: California-
The state DOT (Department of Transportation) provides bike-specific maps for each region, so you'll need to know where exactly you are going. I've used them before and found them adequate but nothing thrilling. (This was six years ago, so things may have changed.) Links to these maps and other California maps here:
And if you are biking the Coast, I highly recommend getting the ACA maps.

Re: Colorado-
Some links here:

As for New England, which states do you plan to be bicycling through?

Hope this helps!

Routes / Re: Emergencies on paved rail-trails??
« on: September 24, 2012, 07:08:44 pm »
This thread over at Bikeforums talks about emergency vehicles on the Sammammish River Trail in the Seattle metro area:

Pacific Northwest / Re: Thoughts on my plan for the Pacific Northwest
« on: August 27, 2012, 03:33:41 pm »
Hey BigCurly, how did your tour go? Did you do the ride?

The hostel at Rampart has a wood fired sauna.  Just FYI.

And so does Moosequito, er, Mosquito Creek.

The primitive hostels on the Icefields are great, but they would definitely require reservations. Great if you can do it. But Icefields is good no matter what way you do it!

Pacific Northwest / Re: Route advice Sedro Woolly to Whidbey Island WA?
« on: August 03, 2012, 06:13:14 pm »
Hey FranWhitehurst, did you folks ever go on this tour? How did it go? Would love to hear about it!

Routes / Re: Ideas from San Fran??? End of tour advice needed please.
« on: August 02, 2012, 03:06:05 pm »
i highly recommend heading north along the coast for a week.

The coast north of SF is indeed beautiful, but a thing to keep in mind is the wind comes out of the NW in summer, so if you head north you'll be getting a headwind.  If you can swing it, it would be good to start from the north and head south. You can take a bus to Eureka/Arcata and start there.

In the park there are hiker-biker spots at St. Mary, Rising Sun, Avalanche, Sprague Creek and Apgar. Think they are all $5/person. Don't know about Two Medicine.

There is indeed hiker/biker camping at Two Medicine, about six or eight sites towards the back of the campground. Two Medicine is a nice spot in the park to go to if you have the time, as it feels less crowded than other areas due to it not being on Going-to-the-Sun Road. (It's also the first place I ever saw a bear, incidentally.)

Gear Talk / Re: Handlebars
« on: July 30, 2012, 10:31:24 pm »
Can't comment on the handlebars but if you're wanting to raise the height of your stem, several companies make a stem riser. I bought one.

After what happened with my girlfriend's stem riser, I'd be wary to use one.

She put a stem riser on her Novara Randonee for the added height. It worked fine. Then she put a front rack on the bike and loaded it up for a tour. The added weight on the fork caused the stem to come undone from the stem riser, while she was riding the bike. It was a bit unnerving, to say the least. And no amount of tightening made it work again. So she had to get a new, longer stem.

Handlebar risers may work when you don't have a load on the front end of a bicycle, but I would be cautious about loading up the front.

General Discussion / Re: GDMBR, Butte to Roosville photos
« on: July 20, 2012, 07:39:23 pm »
Where are the photos?

1. I am having a hard time finding information on the cost of camping along the way.  If anyone who has done this portion of the route can advise me on this it would be very helpful.  I am on a limited budget and would like to have an idea for planning purposes.

Assuming that you'll be camping mostly in National Forests, plan on spending up to $20 a night in developed campgrounds. And "developed" campgrounds in National Forests usually mean pit toilets and a water pump. I've found that campground fees vary widely, even in the same National Forest. This because many National Forest campgrounds are run by contracted private concessionaires, and they are the ones who set the price. (In fact, there can be multiple concessionaires running campgrounds in the same National Forest.) Less developed campgrounds may be cheaper, a few may even be free. But these ones may not have a (treated) water source.

Of course, one of the advantages of riding through National Forests (and BLM land) is that you can pretty much camp anywhere for free. Check in with the local ranger station to see if there are any restrictions.

National Park campgrounds have a little more in the way of amenities. (Flush toilets! Sinks!) Looks like camping in North Cascades National Park run $10-12, don't know what it will be in other parks. (For comparison, regular campsites in Glacier (not on the Sierra Cascades) were $20, however, they had hiker-biker sites for $5 a person.) You can't free camp in a National Park, though.

Private sites are a crapshoot for prices, though $20 a night is a good average to prepare for.

Hope this helps.

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