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General Discussion / Re: Starting the TA in mid August...
« on: March 05, 2014, 08:29:12 pm »
Mid August is better doing west to east, but if you do ride it east to west, you should be prepared for a short early cold/snowy spell in the Rockies or Wasatch any time after mid-Sept. Central California usually stays warm until mid-Oct, but you can get an early storm in the Sierras, too. Services such as campgrounds begin to close after Labor Day - depending on elevation and usage.  Many National Forest and National Park campgrounds are shut down by Oct 1 in the West along the WX.

International / Re: hello) my name is forest I am from Belarus
« on: February 23, 2014, 11:21:06 am »
Nice moves!

Hey - - when are you going to get rid of Lukashenko?
They did it in Ukraine - - now it is time for Belarus.
Lukashanko is so 1917 - - we need to move towards 2017.

Take care and have fun.


Rocky Mountain / Re: Highway 18 from St. George to Enterprise and back?
« on: February 23, 2014, 09:36:57 am »
Big, big climb out of St George.
Maybe not the best choice for first trip.
Not quite as much of a climb going thru Shviwits.

What about a circle route out of Panguitch?
North on US 89 to Circle - east to Otter Creek,
Then south along the Upper East Fork on the county road,
And finally west thru Red Canyon on the bike trail.

Total - about 100 miles - follows river valleys.
From Panguitch to Otter Creek State Park is about 40 miles.
Slightly downhill and often with tailwind to Circle.
Plus, you can take in Bryce Canyon, too.

Routes / Re: Pacific Coast Route Northbound
« on: February 14, 2014, 03:51:46 pm »
Mr. Seaton -

I was referring to the Pacific Coast of the United States.
That was what the OP asked.
Nowhere did I suggest that this was a worldwide phenomena.
But, it does seem that you do not understand climate patterns of this region.

Routes / Re: Pacific Coast Route Northbound
« on: February 13, 2014, 03:30:36 am »
Northwest winds accompany high pressure and dry weather.
Southerly winds accompany storm systems and rain.

With rare exceptions, mid-June is the best time for riding in the Rockies. That's why one-week supported rides such as Ride The Rockies and Bicycle Tour of Colorado always pick mid-June. Your best weather in the Rockies is usually in June. Once you get into July and August, thunderstorms start posing more of a problem.

I must disagree, John.  But I'll let you speak to the issue.
Here's what you said about riding Going to the Sun Road on June 24:

"For the three miles on either side of the pass, visibility dropped to near zero,
and the cycling between the 15-foot walls of snow was downright dangerous."

Ride the Rockies has considerable logistics support - plus prearranged camping and chow lines that can be moved indoors to school gyms or churches if necessary. Self-contained touring folks don't have that luxury.

In the Northern Rockies and, to a degree, the Colorado Rockies, the last big snow often occurs in early to mid June. Sure. It's gloppy and wet. And often it doesn't stick long to the roads. But for a couple of days it can be pretty nasty. (Even had a July 4th snowstorm in Jackson, WY.)

Plus, there's the issue of snow that is already on the ground and the dates when facilities open.  At higher elevations, snow begins accumulating in October and piles up all winter. Real melting doesn't start until May.  Campground do usually open by Memorial Day in Colorado, but in Wyoming and Montana often do not open to late June - - such as Grant Village in Yellowstone.

In 2010, I was doing census work over the summer after school got out.  Here are two pictures from June 20th.  The first is from town - 5000 feet.  The second is where I am snowshoeing in to verify that summer houses are not permanent residences - 8000 feet.  Big difference!

PS - Yes, I got paid to go snowshoeing on a glorious day.

May can be snowy, June can be snowy.
What's more, many facilities in the Rockies do not open until mid/late June.
Even if snow is not coming down, it takes a while for 20 feet of snow to melt.

If your dates are somewhat fixed - why not plan your route accordingly?
(Provided, of course, you have not already gone off and bought tickets.)
Late May is glorious weather in California - before it bakes.
The waterfalls in Yosemite are at their peak. This year will probably be less.

Then ride across Nevada to southern Utah and its magnificent parks.
Take in the Grand Canyon and do some hiking.
Then visit ancient Puebloan ruins in New Mexico -
Ending up in the Colorado Rockies when the wildflowers are at their peak.

What was it about the mountain and Mohammed?

Routes / Re: Best route from Vallejo to San Francisco
« on: February 10, 2014, 02:32:36 pm »
Actually, there is a very nice way to get to the coast north of San Francisco and come across the Golden Gate Bridge.  I understand your reasons for doing so.

When you get to Davis on the Western Express, continue on only as far as Winters, then take Hwy 128 over the ridge to the Napa Valley (famous for its vineyards) and Silverado Trail south to Napa.  From Napa there are a series of back roads to Petaluma that let you avoid most of Hwy 121 and Hwy 116 - Old Sonoma, Hwy 121, Napa, 5th, Watmaugh, Arnold, Hwy 116, Adobe, Washington.  From Petaluma, take Point Reyes Road to Hwy 1 on the coast.  Point Reyes has some spectacular backcountry campsites on the coast, but they require reservations, I believe.  Weekends might be tough, but a weekday night may be possible, even just a day before.  Point Reyes is off the main route; however, there is also a backcountry campsite right on the cliff at Golden Gate just north of San Francisco.

Anyhoo - you can then follow Hwy 1, the Pacific Coast Bike Route, south to the Golden Gate Bridge - remembering to get off the main highway in Sausalito and follow city streets and trails.  It is generally well marked - or you can get the map section from ACA.

Have a great trip - J

PS - You do know that Nevada is empty and will be hot by late July or August, non?  If you have toured in Morocco or Algeria, you may have encountered something similar - except that there are way more people and villages in North Africa.  Vide.  Leer.

The first map entails crossing two divides - the second one, Trail Creek, on dirt.
The first one isn't too bad, but the second may be a push - esp. at 5000-6000 ft.
The Livingston start would be a much more gradual approach.
You are likely to have southerly winds with either.

Whit -

You do know that US 191 from Bozeman to West Yellowstone has high traffic levels - especially in summer - and that there is often little to no shoulder.  The Gallatin River Canyon is lovely, but the riding can be trying.

A much, much quieter ride into Yellowstone is the East River Road south of Livingston.  It goes by MT 540 and then becomes a county road - from good pavement to poor pavement.  The southern stretch has almost zero cars.  If you wish, you can then backtrack over the US 89 bridge and take the Yellowstone Trail on the west bank up to Gardiner and the historic Yellowstone NP entrance gate.  Rough.

Not sure where you are from, but if you are from east or west coast, south or Midwest, you should be aware of altitude and remoteness.  Your plans start off with a bang and can be disappointing to the uninitiated.  Most people are not severely affected by altitude sickness, but it can stop others in their tracks.  It is supposedly like a bad case of the flu - you simply have to stop.  So give your group time to acclimate.

Pic - Yellowstone River South of Livingston

Routes / Re: Grand Canyon Connector in mid March
« on: January 18, 2014, 07:23:51 pm »
Flagstaff - March

Avg Hi - 50
Avg Lo - 22
Avg Snow - 18 inches

In general, it's best to avoid US Highways - esp. in the East.
US 58 is mostly 4-lane with fairly heavy traffic.

North Carolina publishes bike map sets that are map-case sized.
You could use the North Line Trace (G) then Ports of Call(D)
I would argue against any route thru the Raleigh Durham area

You could cut off the northeastern corner of NC between the two routes -
But places like Merchants Millpond and Edenton are really nice.

Routes / Re: Susquehanna Info?
« on: December 15, 2013, 09:19:39 pm »
Have you considered the Eastern Shore?

You would miss Baltimore and Washington entirely and have beautiful countryside.
Maryland puts out a cycling map - online and paper.

From Crisfield you can take a passenger ferry to either Smith island or Tangier Island -
Then connect to another passenger ferry to the Northern Neck of Virginia.
Staying overnight at one of the island guest houses would be like dessert.
Then you could ride the Northern Neck to Fredericksburg.
From Fredericksburg you can catch Amtrak back to NYC and Upstate.

If you decide to do the Eastern Shore, you should be on the east side of the Susq -
Before you reach Maryland since there only one legal bridge in MD - and it's yucky.
You want to avoid US 301 - even avoid Hwy 213 when possible -
But you do have to used Hwy 213 to cross some inlets and rivers.

The biggest challenge is crossing the Delaware & Chesapeake Canal.
Personally, I'd catch a ride either on the bridge -
Or from the dock on the north side to the dock on the south side.
(Boaters have helped me out many times crossing water bodies.)

If you are willing to hitch across water -
Then heading down Elks Neck to Rogue's Harbor is a possibility.

Although the Eastern Shore is busier than it used to be -
It is still a lovely place - far removed from the urban scene.
(Holiday weekends can be crazy, however.)

General Discussion / Re: Grand Canyon
« on: December 14, 2013, 01:07:38 pm »
Yes, the South Rim is open all year, but the Colorado Plateau can still be quite cold and snowy.
Trails into the canyon are often icy because they receive little sunlight.
Also, GCNP has numerous restrictions on pets.

Check out Flagstaff's average weather -

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