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General Discussion / Re: 25 years on....
« on: April 16, 2010, 10:40:57 pm »
Good learning curve took several months and two falls. It happens when you least expect it. ( Which is why it happens maybe)

hey'll get  varied opinions on this so here's view comes after only reading ACA and CGOAB forums for 3-4 years. Your question comes up every year... and what I recall is that "almost all"  forum participants responding to that issue do not support mixing raising funds for charity and paying for the trip. doesn't mean some people won't support you for both, but just not seen as a very good practice.
"warm" and ""  are sites that have members that offer free rooms for cyclist.  (one way to beat some costs and meet people)
good luck...

Routes / Re: East West Route starting in May
« on: March 15, 2010, 09:52:31 pm »
Stu; We did west to east in 10 weeks in 2008 and used about 6+ weeks of N Tier as well as Erie Connector and Great Lakes in Mich.
We did NT route from Anacortes WA to Glacier Park; then left NT to go to south to Yellowstone/Black Hills/Badlands; SD; southern MN; central WI; ferry across Lake Michigan and then picked up the Great Lakes, Erie Connector, Erie Canal +NT thru most of NY; VT, NH Southern ME. (3700 miles) Details at:  It was a relaxed pace with stops at all Parks etc.
No matter what route you decide will see rural USA.

Regarding leaving Yellowstone and picking up NT. In 08 we went from Glacier (NT) south on 83 (Swan River Valley..beautiful ride) to 200  to 279 (Flescher Pass) to Helena and 280/284 Canyon Ferry Rd to 12 to 89 which took us south to Mammoth Hot Springs/Yellowstone. We camped and had no problems with the route. The worst traffic using NT routes was in Whitefish-Glacier area. Survivable but ugly. The other roads were great.  Details at Coast to Coast for Conservation at:

Routes / Re: Help planning from WI to Yellowstone
« on: February 22, 2010, 08:37:51 pm »
Erik....I posted a few days ago buy the text went south.  I have done most of the trip you are planning..tho from west to east. Check out our 2008 blog "Coast to Coast for Conservation" at:

You would be further north being at Chippewa Falls ( we crossed into MN at LaCrosse and took the Root River Trail in SE Minn and then stayed south of I 90 across south MN.) But we felt that #44 across SD was a good road and showed the rural culture of small towns of SD very well and leads into  the Badlands and Black Hills. Try to include Devils Monument en route to Yellowstone. We liked 14/16 through much of WYO and loved Shell Canyon as the route over the Big Horns...but we loved climbs so were not looking for the least elevation over the Big Horns. Our trip was supported but we camped the entire route and had no issues with finding sites.


Routes / Re: Help planning from WI to Yellowstone
« on: February 19, 2010, 10:12:02 pm »
 We went west to east in 08 and stayed in Yellowstone ( after coming from Glacier via Anacortes and the NT). We also took in Devils Monument, Black Hills, Badlands... used SD#44 to NE Iowa to Lake Okobojie (sp) to Jackson MN and south of I90 to Root River Bike trail in SE Minn to LaCrosse WI  to Sparta-Elroy Trail ( with 3 tunnels..a BLAST) up to Green Lake WI and then ended up in Manitowac. 
Exact route on our blog "coast to coast for conservation" at (

General Discussion / Re: Which Erie Canal guide book "best"?
« on: February 19, 2010, 09:54:55 pm »
Also used the PTNY book from Buffalo to St Johnsville. It was good enough, though we had some confusion getting started on the "trail" after entering Buffalo from the Peace Bridge. You should not have that problem since you are ending in Buffalo. There are numerous sections that put you back on roads so you need to stay alert.  We found painted signage on the road surface (white circle with a directional line) a huge help. Those signs were from the annual 400 mile Erie Canal ride (

Hey most have pointed out..April can be a challenge in the east. Regarding route along the Erie Canal Path we used it in 2008 and found it worth it. We had 700x32 tires and did not find the fine stone on the path an issue..BUT we were not loaded. We did go thru Buffalo and used the Peace Bridge. For details go to and click on New York and Ontario. 

Routes / Re: Northern Tier-ish
« on: February 03, 2010, 09:40:51 pm »
We were heading east but regarding the Buffalo area we used the Peace Bridge and found our way somewhat quickly thru the maze after the Bridge to the Niagara River Trail. True, though the roads in one stretch of a few miles were crappy, but it did not last long. We used ACA map and the Erie Canal map and then found the painted signs of the NY Parks Buffalo to Albany bike route to guide us when we were confused. The River Trail was fun. I don't know if there is a perfect route.

General Discussion / Re: Your first long distance tour...
« on: January 24, 2010, 07:25:16 pm »
My first long tour which was my very first tour ever  was coast to coast in 2008 at age 62, and my first thoughts were "how will a 30 mile uphill in the Cascades feel"...and as the temps went to 105º+ my thoughts quickly changed to "can I ride in this heat for a week". I found living in the moment was all I wanted to do and it worked for me. At the end, the 3rd week of Oct. in Maine, it was a cold cold day with a NE wind and all I thought about was getting off the beach after the toast. Not very profound.  
I had some profound thoughts on the long long Hwy#44 in SD where the moments ran into days. My riding companion had lots of profound thoughts, but as the blog writer, and a writer by trade, (  he had to be thinking of profound discoveries along the route.
For me it doesn't have to be profound to be meaningful. Just be.  Ride and live.

Routes / Re: Northern Tier-ish
« on: January 12, 2010, 10:19:00 pm »
Dang..something happened to the text in my last reply. Anyhow....for the 2nd time.

MI DOT has bike maps by region and we used one to do the Luddington-Luther leg in 2008.  It took about  4 hours I think. Longer than it should as one road marked "paved" was soft sand and it was slow and we got lost due to some flooding and closed roads. The Erie Connector route was generally good, though  some roads were w/o shoulders and less than nice drivers.  We did get lost in Bay City. Be sure to stop in Fairview at the Catamore Zangalotti Flashback Cafe and have "martian nuts". Brown City..home to the first RV is a good stop as well. The ferry ride on the "Badger" is sure to play Bingo for that ultimate culture experience.
Read days 50-53 at our blog at and link to Michigan under categories.  Great time of year to plan a trip. We finished our coast-coast trip in S. Maine at Wells.
Enjoy yours.

Routes / Re: Northern Tier-ish
« on: January 12, 2010, 10:06:22 pm »
Just a note on the Luther to Luddington leg. MIchigan DOT has bicycle maps for the entire state by region. I regret I can't locate the section for Luther to Luddington, but we used that map in 2008. We left Luddington in the early AM; stopped for breakfast and still made it to Luther for lunch so it is not a long leg. BUT.. the map they had showed the roads we used as paved and one stretch was not. That would not be much of an issue, except that back road was soft sand. They were all for the most part void of traffic. Check out our blog for that day at

Routes / Re: Newport, Oregon to Portland, Maine via Northern Iowa
« on: January 11, 2010, 06:28:49 pm »

If you go to you will see our journal "Coast to Coast for Conservation" and each state is linked under "categories"

We loved the Elroy-Sparta- Lacrosse rail to trail ride and especially the tunnels. (ride, not walk,  through them for the best experience) WI will have some good options for coming into the state from IL. The Root River trail in SE MN was excellent. A stop at the Spam Museum in Austin is a must. Our Minn route south of I90 was not too exciting for several days but it was away from traffic. The route thru NW Iowa was mostly to re-live childhood memories. Also it was  away from traffic except for the most part, with  views of IA farming (oink oink). Rock Rapids IA was a fun town.
I think #44 along the edge of the Pine Ridge Reservation thru southern SD is a "must do" to fully experience the Dakota culture. The ride through eastern WY coming from Yellowstone to Devils Tower to the  Black Hills was remote and beautiful. Being from the Finger Lakes area of NY (HILLS) we did not mind going up the Big Horns the hard way. Burgess Junction and Granite Pass/Shell Canyon are exceptionally beautiful.

Let me know if  the blog does not answer all your questions.


Routes / Re: Newport, Oregon to Portland, Maine via Northern Iowa
« on: January 10, 2010, 09:31:56 pm »
Sounds like a great graduation gift to yourself. 

I did a Northern Tier "sort of" west to east in 2008 and passed thru my hometown of Jackson MN and included the Spirit Lake IA area, having come from Northern Tier to Glacier to Yellowstone to Black Hills to Badlands and SD #44 to Rock Rapids Iowa to Spirit Lake to Jackson MN and across southern MN to Root River Trail in SE MN and across WI (Sparta-Elroy Tunnels were awesome) to Manitowac WI to ferry to Ludington MI and used the Lake Erie Connector from Luther to Marine City . From there used NT thru Ontario Canada and part of NY (Erie Canal mostly ) to VT, NH and ended at Wells Maine. 3700 miles and 10 weeks.  If interested I can provide more details on route. We routed oursleves (no ACA maps) thru central-eastern NY, VT, NH and Maine. Mostly backroads.


Routes / Re: Adirondack Loop - Help Needed
« on: March 30, 2009, 10:50:12 pm »
Mike....May is peak black fly season in the Adk's. Nasty stuff. As posted earlier most NYS/DEC camps are not open that early.  "Google" private RV/campgrounds along your route and you should find some RV parks open, but you are a month early and may need to guerilla camp. NYS  Parks and DEC Campgrounds are fairly well regulated and I doubt you will find many who would bend the rules to let you slip past the closed gates knowingly. Other than the bug issue what a great time to see the Park bud out.

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