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Routes / Re: Source for USBR GPS Data?
« on: July 27, 2016, 09:13:07 am »
Hi Steve,

Since USBR routes are designated on a state-by-state basis, they are the keepers of any data associated with them. You would need to contact the states individually to find out what they have available. You will find links to each state's resources here:

I hope this helps.


California / Re: PC BIKE ROUTE
« on: July 22, 2016, 09:16:35 am »
I can't say why Google would route cyclists that way. However, I can tell you the Adventure Cycling Pacific Coast Route uses SR 1 for most of the distance between San Francisco and Santa Cruz.


Corridor 90 Implementation / Re: Corridor 90
« on: July 22, 2016, 09:08:13 am »
It is the USBR corridor that roughly follows the Adventure Cycling Southern Tier route across the southern U.S. from California to Florida. You can see it on the National Corridor Plan Map:



Routes / Re: Southern Tier
« on: July 22, 2016, 09:00:59 am »
It's good to have your priorities in alignment! =)

Have a great trip!


Routes / Re: Southern Tier
« on: July 21, 2016, 10:06:50 am »
Either way you are likely to run into snow in the western mountain passes. Check out this blog post for more thoughts on when to ride the Southern Tier route:


General Discussion / Re: Colorado: bike maps?
« on: July 12, 2016, 10:56:17 am »
You could also check the resources found on the following page. It also includes contact information for the Colorado Bicycle and Pedestrian Coordinator who might have other suggestions along the lines of what you are looking for.


For about 11 miles, SR 14 out of Cedar City is being chipped sealed this month. It will take some time for it to settle. It may be advisable to get a ride across this stretch until then.


A detour around this closure would be to use 600th Ave. south of Elkhart and Lester Rd. east of Williamsville. See this map for more information:

It is uncertain how long this closure will last due to budget concerns. It may continue to be closed through the fall.


Thanks, I see that now as well. My search terms did not pick up that entry.


Due to a landslide in August 2015, FR 227 between Featherville and and Ketchum east of Skeleton Creek has a washed out section. There are Road Closed signs posted at this washout. It does not apply to cyclists. The Fairfield District of the Sawtooth National Forest has built a path for cyclists use. It is rough and you will likely need to walk your bike and equipment. The path is less than half a mile in length.

It is unknown if this road will be repaired further in the near-term.


Alright then, now that the facts are out of the way, let me get up on my soapbox and state my opinions about the FR277 closure.

First of all, I really don't understand why this season's snowfall totals (which are now completely irrelevant) merit a prominent mention on the map's addenda page, but the FR277 closure is buried here in the forum. The map addenda main page states:

Addenda only pertain to long term changes and updates. For short term road closures, please see the Adventure Cycling's Routes Temporary Road Closures discussion in our Forums.

The snow totals for this year were clearly a short-term situation. In contrast, FR277 has been closed for 10 months and counting. Is that not a "long term change"? It's time to update the addenda page.

I understand your frustration that this information got buried. Placed as it was within another post, we didn't see the FR 277 closure when it was posted, either.

The snowfall totals and methods for determining their impact on the route is information that probably should have made it onto the printed map. This is why it went on the addenda as well as in the forums. We want cyclists to have this information for planning purposes regardless of the year.

Second, I suggest that ACA get on the horn with the forest service and find out about possible re-routes that are not as big a detour. Anecdotal evidence suggests that such a route does exist. Motorcyclist #3 that I spoke with as I climbed Dollarhide never reappeared later in the day to backtrack his way out.

Finally, should you ride this? Almost definitely. Unless you are a real pack horse, you are looking at at most a 2 hour delay, and the countryside down here is really beautiful.

As I mentioned in my above post, someone will be contacting the Sawtooth National Forest for recommendations to deal with this closure. Though it appears it is doable to make your way through the closure, it may be the forest's stand that they do not want cyclists doing this. We will not advocate this course of action without their permission. After we have this conversation we will post the outcome.


First, thank you for the specific information on this closure. The 6/23/16 post above is the first I've seen of the situation with FR 277.

FR277 is closed from   43 35.0191N, 114 59.5907W on the west to 43 35.0332N, 114 59.2484W  on the east. This is a distance of about .35 miles. Here is the situation in detail. The road is on the north side of the river. There was a mudslide on the south side that dammed the river and caused it to flood the road. Eventually the river punched through the slide at the lowest point, which is where the road used to be. The edge of the river is now the base of rockslides that come down the north wall of the river canyon. These rocks range anywhere from softball sized to chair-sized. Fortunately, some trail angels have moved enough rocks around to make a sort of path through them.

It took me 45 minutes to push my bike through the closed area. It wasn't terribly difficult because I'm using a pretty light bikepacking setup (see photos) but it is slow going because the rocks shift around under your feet as you walk and you really can't afford to slip and fall -- every surface around you is a jagged rock. I suspect that if you have a single set of panniers, you might be able to push through in one go; with front and rear panniers, you are more likely to require two trips and with a trailer, you will definitely have to make two trips. In that case it is probably going to take about 2 hours to get through this section. Nonetheless, this is probably preferable to the detour that ACA has suggested.

Second, clearly, cyclists are making their way through this closed area and have yet to report it to us via these forums, email or phone. We rely on cyclists to be our ears and eyes in the field to alert us to situations such as this so again, I thank you for reporting in. You mention a detour that we suggested (bolded text). Where have you seen this information? I don't see it on the addenda or within the forums. Since I believe this is the first we've heard of it, I don't imagine we actually have a suggested reroute to offer at this point. Someone will contact the appropriate ranger station for more information and post it when available.


This looks like an interesting tool. Thanks for the tip!


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