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However, I now need to add the Waypoints. Do I do this using the same method for the route? If you can guide me through, I'd really appreciate it...
Of course. We shall work on the waypoints next.

The long hours in front of BaseCamp seem to have paid off. The route looks good. I have a few clarifying questions about the route:
  • Why three starting points? From the east, the route comes from three branches:
    • Near Allentown, PA: route A02230
    • Near New York City, NY: A22N20_01B, which also travels east instead of west
    • Richmond, VA (A03370_13)
  • Why keep route alternates? There are many areas with multiple options to travel through. For example:
    • Baltimore, MD: A03310_08A versus A43010_08B
    • South of Louisville, KT: J0AC30_31 versus JAAMC1_31A & JAAC31_31B
    • West of Reno, NV: K02120_63A versus K12141_63B
Aside from that, I noticed a few spikes on the route. These indicate to me that some route points are not connected correctly. For example, route J07740_48 near Pueblo, CO:
  • It approaches Pueblo to the west. It makes a U-turn back east briefly before heading south.
  • It continues west, turns north toward the airport, only to make another U-turn back south.
  • In Pueblo, it turns east before looping back west.
Something is not right about these spikes. You may need to experiment with more ways to move or add route points to keep the route continuous.

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Yeah I noticed that too, here is the file... https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/82601114/demoJ0CE90.GPX.zip
This is great work. I think you have the route correctly.

The file still has the waypoints. I see many <wpt> tags inside the file when I open it with a text editor. You should remove them. Otherwise, they will take up unnecessary memory from your device:
  • In BaseCamp, import the file
  • In the bottom left window, you will see a long list of waypoints (with a dot symbol and any other symbols that are not a bicycle) and one route (with a bicycle symbol).
  • Delete all those waypoints. They should not impact the route at all.
  • Save the file.
  • Open it with a text editor. There should not be any <wpt> tags. There should only be <rte> tags.
By now, you are ready to repeat the same exercise for the remaining portions of your route.

You also need to be aware that City Navigator does not route through trails. It only works on roads. For example, in the sample file you sent me, between waypoints J0C9H01 & J0C9F01, the actual Adventure Cycling route is on a trail. However, that is not possible to create as a route in City Navigator. You had to devise an alternate plan, such ask mark a trailhead waypoint or split the route.

Confirm back when ready. We can work on the campgrounds.

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Looks like I i had to let it acquire the satellite and the route wrapped right on the road. Again I followed all the steps you took in the video. Is this correct? If so I can manipulate my other routes the same way. Afterwards I'd have to setup the waypoints for them.
Post a copy of the GPX file you generated please. I am seeing many waypoints on the picture of your device—not sure why they are there. They are not in the BaseCamp screen capture. Let me take a look. They may be residual on other files that you have to clean up.

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I'd like to continue working on the gps routes. I feel like I'm almost there.
That is what I was hoping to hear. It is a bit tough learning curve at the beginning. But the final product is beautiful and will be tremendous help once you are out there on the road.

I'm go to give it another shot tonight when I get in and will post results.
Please try to use the TA exactly as shown in the video. The final product should match exactly the sample file I posted for you. Then it is just a matter of repeating the steps for the remaining sections.

I also notice city navigator is a bit slugish in my basecamp and gps. Is that normal.
I am not sure. I suppose this may be because the maps are on the SD card, therefore, there is some data transfer lag.

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I'm getting closer and closer to my trip and can't believe I'm still struggling with this.
I assume you have the paper maps, correct? They should be your primary source for navigation. Meanwhile, we shall find a way to get you some GPS navigation that will help you.

The current GPX file formats you are downloading are indeed due for an upgrade. In fact, Adventure Cycling is rolling out improved digital navigation formats. They are being put to the test on the Northern Tier this year.

I've attached a zipped file of the route exported.
I found the following in the file you sent me:
  • It still contains waypoints. In the video instructions I posted earlier, the first step was to remove the waypoints. Otherwise, they will take memory from your device and confuse the route.
  • The route does follow roads, only not the intended ones. It spikes in and out of the main route. In the video I show how to move the route points slightly to match the intended route per the paper map.
  • This sample file is not for TransAmerica route. This is from Atlantic Coast route Section 4 near Suffolk, VA. The video instructions to download and edit the TransAmerica, including reversing it to go east to west as will be your first leg of the tour.
Where there are unclear instructions or steps in the video that you need help with, post them here. Otherwise, the end product should be identical to the result file from the video.

The alternate option is to use these digital files almost as is, with little manipulation. They will remain as straight lines. You will not receive turn prompts. However, when you look at them on the device, you will remain fairly close to the line, giving you some assurance that you are on the right route.

Do you prefer to go with this easier option? Or do you want to give the routes another try?

Once we finish with the route, we will set you up with the campgrounds. They should be much easier to manage.

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Also in terms of naming the routes in the order I prefer, would it effect the code in the GPX file as it would be named different.
No. No impact on the GPX file content or its performance. This is just a label to the file. You should be able to use it as is.

The route on the gps displays the campsites and other intrest that match Basecamp. However, the roads are still aren't identical.
Something is definitely not right. The eTrex is showing straight lines compared with curved ones following the road on BaseCamp.

My recommendation is split the effort of creating the route from the waypoints for campgrounds & other services.

I will focus the discussion below on getting you ready with the routes. Once we have those ready and transferred to your eTrex, we shall proceed to getting you the waypoints as well. You can place multiple .gpx files in your device. It will process them as one. You do not have to combine all data in one file.

To make sure we are starting cleanly on your device, please remove all files in the GPX directory:
  • Connect the eTrex to your computer via the USB cable
  • Two new storage devices should appear: one for the eTrex and the other for the micro SD card
  • Navigate to /garmin/gpx folder in both storage devices
  • Make a backup copy of all files in that directory
  • Remove all files from that directory
  • As I believe you are using a Mac, you need to empty trash to make sure these files are removed from the devices
We shall start with Section 12 of TransAmerica. Manipulate it per earlier discussion and as describe in the video.

What is the result? Did it work for you?

When done, highlight the route as you finished it, select File from the menu, select Export <route name>, and save a copy on your computer. Post a copy of that file somewhere (such as Dropbox) where I can download and review it.

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I have another issue. Not sure why the route isn't being displayed as it is in basecamp here...
The two screens are showing two different map sets: BaseCamp is showing the "Global Map" while the eTrex is showing City Navigator. They do not match.

Switch BaseCamp to show City Navigator. It should then match the eTrex.

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I want to be able to scroll down from route to route in consecutively. In other words, how do I set the route up in my direction of travel?
Congratulations. You made it.

Order of routes is according to their names, alphabetically. Change the name. You can do that in the properties window. In the screen capture, you have a window open on the top right, labelled A02240. There is a field at the top of that window with the route name. Change it to 01 or whatever you like to indicate your order preference.

Voilà.

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My question is if I click on a campground can I just set up a proximity alarm for it to notify my as I'm approaching. If so how would I enter that information.
See our earlier exchange about setting up proximity alarms in this topic.

Also I noticed that the route goes West to East. In inverting the route to go East to West I noticed that it would change course. is this normal, should I leave it or drag the routes waypoints the way I want them?
BaseCamp in this case is recalculating the route. You will then have to go through the exercise discussed earlier and shown on the videos.

Alternatively, you can set the map from the menu bar to "Global Map". This map does not have routing information. When you reverse the route, it will keep as is, only reversing direction. Note again that these straight lines will not give you turn prompts at intersections.

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I tried again and it's not importing the waypoints. Here is the link I downloaded them from... http://www.adventurecycling.org/routes-and-maps/adventure-cycling-route-network/gps-information/route-gps-waypoints/.
This page you reference is for Route GPS Waypoints only. It does not include services along the route.

The files that contain services are available on the page for Route and Services GPS Waypoints. Note this page is for members only.

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Ok so I took the city navigator out the gps and and installed it to a 16gb card. I put that in my card reader and I have detailed map with streets on Basecamp.
This is perfect. Now you can follow the earlier steps to calculate the route. The GPS will give you turn prompts as you ride.

I still don't see the ACA campgrouds and other locations on the left at the waypoints.
Are you using the original file you downloaded from the Adventure Cycling web site? Which file is it? I can try to download it and take a look.

Please download it again, import it as is into BaseCamp. That should show a variety of Waypoints in addition to the routes.

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Under maps I in Basecamp I habe Global Maps checked. I am using city navigator installed on my GPS.
Without City Navigator in your BaseCamp then you cannot create routes to get turn prompts.

You may be able to get your unit to calculate the route for you while you ride. However, that is a high risk to follow a route before you check it first. I would not recommend that.

As for the routes on the left, I don't see any campgrounds with a tent icon next to it nor do I see a bicycle.
I see a small bicycle symbol next to each route name in the screen capture your provided earlier, in the bottom left. Do you not see that?

Try to load the original file that you downloaded from Adventure Cycling. That should have the waypoints for campground with a tent symbol.

How do I get City Navigator to run in Basecamp? Do I connect my GPS for that to work?
I do not know of any way to get the maps from your device to BaseCamp.

Your best bet at this point, depending on when you bought the City Navigator SD card, is to return it and buy the same product only on a DVD or download it. That way, it will be installed on your computer. From there, you can transfer the files onto your device.

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Their aren't detailed roads because I have it without detail on the slider bar to show more of the route.
The screen capture still only shows the base map of BaseCamp. It does not look like you are using the CityNavigator map. From the menu bar, under Maps, what map options do you have? I think it is "Global Map".

Regardless, with your current setup as it shows on the screen, where the route is a collection of straight lines, the GPS device will not prompt you at turns. You will need to use CityNavigator maps (or alternate routable maps) with BaseCamp as you follow the steps I outlined earlier.

I'm having trouble finding the waypoints for campgrounds on the map with relationship on the GPS route. How do I identify them?
In the bottom left of screen capture you sent, you see the list of routes with a bicycle symbol next to each. The campgrounds should be on that list with a tent symbol next to them. Do you not see that? They should be there in the original GPX file you downloaded from Adventure Cycling web site.

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Canada / Re: Nova Scotia to Boston
« on: April 04, 2014, 09:37:14 pm »
Where are you starting your ride?

I think the ferry from Portland will take you to Yarmouth. Are you then crossing back to Bar Harbor, ME? You can pick up the Atlantic Coast route all the way back to Boston.

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Test a route in your neighborhood in advance of your tour to make sure you have the GPS device set up the way you want it.

Here are two main things I'm looking for...

1. Turn by turn instructions
2. Campgrounds, etc to be displayed

You found the right post to help you with these two goals.

In the images 1 & 2 that you have, I do not see detailed roads. Are you using City Navigator with BaseCamp? In image 2, I see the route as a group of straight lines, which is not following the road. To get turn prompts, you need to have the route follow the road, as discussed in detail with sample videos.

For campgrounds, yes, the GPS can chime as you are approaching the camp site, and display it on the screen. You need to set a proximity alarm for it though. Follow these steps (using BaseCamp 4.2.4 on Mac OSX 10.9.2):
  • Make sure you have all the campgrounds created as Waypoints in BaseCamp
  • Select some or all the Waypoints for these campgrounds
  • From the menu, select Edit > Get Info
  • In the properties window, Select Advanced
  • Enter the alarm distance in the Proximity field
  • Copy or export the waypoints to your device

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