Tenacious Tape may be worth trying.
I was going to suggest duck tape (or is it duct tape), but this looks far superior. Maybe we should all have some tenacious tape in our kits.
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Tenacious Tape may be worth trying.
Russ, thanks I had not really priced the Gunnar frames/forks, etc. I don't think the 480 frame will work for me (too big) but I should compare the specs with the Terry and LHT and also contact Gunnar, especially if I can save $$.
I compared the Gunnar and Terry websites for the bikes. It appears Terry has Gunnar make them different sized bikes from the stock Gunnar bikes. Terry does offer one smaller bike than the smallest Gunnar frame. You might go custom with Gunnar and work with them to make a smaller frame similar to the smallest Terry frame. Terry gives you its dimensions. I'm sort of, kind of against the Terry bicycle simply because it is a Gunnar frame. Terry even says its a Waterford (Gunnar) frame. So why not skip the middle man (Terry) and buy the frame from its real maker (Waterford/Gunnar)?
Another person argues against buying a frame and building it yourself because the cost is usually more than buying it direct already built as a complete bike. With the Terry it is very easy to see if this is true or not. Terry says it is a Gunnar frame/fork. Gunnar sells its frames direct to the public and lists its prices. Price both the standard and custom options. Terry also lists all the parts on the bike. Simple to find all those parts on the internet and list their prices. See if the totals work out right or wrong. Biggest benefit for building it yourself is you get to pick every part yourself and get what you want. Not accept a half-arse part you don't want. Like 32 spokes instead of 36 for a loaded touring wheel. Or lower and better mid range gearing than what Terry offers. An 11-36 cassette instead of the 11-34 Terry offers. A 42-32-22 crankset instead of the 48-34-24 crankset Terry offers. Wider handlebars. Correct stem length. Saddle that fits you. By the time you pay to change all these parts on a stock bike, its probably better and cheaper to buy it right from the beginning.
The facts are there already folks. Makers such as trek, surly, salsa and others are stating bikes are made from Cro-Mo steel and laymen such as the people who have responded to my post believe that all Cro-Mo steels are the same. The fact is that without some sort of certification I can call anything I want to cro-Mo steel. And the cro-mo steel they are using has no certifications. Those are the facts like it or not. I'm not a conspiracy theorist. Uncertified cro-Mo steel is not a commodity item. I guess I'm living in a fantasy world called, "reality".
Some of the responses to this post are WAY out in left field and just not worth answering.