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Gear Talk / Re: Co-motion Americano vs Norwester Tour
« on: November 07, 2009, 07:47:17 pm »
Hello Tourista829! Thanks for the update. Speaking of updates, my wife and I spent a few days touring around in Germany, (mostly) Czech, & Austria this past Aug/Sept on our Nor'Westers.

Here's a little something that I'm working on that I'd like to share and hopefully help promote touring in Czech.  It's still in the works but you'll get the idea.

Czech Touring

I'm hoping to have it linked on this site soon.

http://pragueviennagreenways.org/


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Gear Talk / Re: Co-motion Americano vs Norwester Tour
« on: June 02, 2009, 01:17:49 pm »
Talking about these two bike can invite criticism.
  {scratching my head} Why?

I can't speak anyone else, but I bought my Norwester to tour and tour only (the US and Europe). I have my Merlin for everything else. ;-)

When I hear the words "Credit Card" touring, I picture a cute little day bag with a change of cloths and nothing else. All I'm saying is, I've loaded the bike down and it seems to ride great, so I don't know why the reviews say it is only good for Credit Card touring. Seems to be a little misleading.

I suppose if I was a bit heavier, I too would have gone with the Americano, but why had the extra pounds when it's not needed?

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Gear Talk / Re: Co-motion Americano vs Norwester Tour
« on: June 01, 2009, 09:49:56 pm »
Thanks for the response damselfli. Yeah I don't get it. The bike rides great under load, so that is all that matters in my book! :-)

 
Are you in Florida? If so, where?

We're up near Tampa.

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Gear Talk / Re: Co-motion Americano vs Norwester Tour
« on: May 31, 2009, 10:18:13 pm »
Too funny I thought I was going to have to search for this thread, so I could post an update about our Co-Motions.

My wife and I are preparing for a trip this summer to Czech, so we've been kind of "training" for it. We will be self supported and camping for most of it, so we will be carrying a lot of gear. This weekend we decided to load up with everything we think we'll need for our Czech tour and head out. Friday night after work we rode 23 miles and camped. Saturday we rode for 32 miles and camped for the night and today (Sunday, right now) we rode back home (55 miles). The idea was to ride, setup camp, sleep, get up, pack, ride, setup, etc... (you get the picture). We rode on nice bike paths, paved roads, side walks, dirt roads and everything in between. I know it was only for the weekend, but it gave us a chance to pack and ride as though we were in Czech. 

With that being said, I have a question and hopefully someone can answer it. Will someone please explain to me why most (virtually all) reviews about the Norwester Tour say it is only good for "Credit Card" or light touring and the only real bike for touring is the Americano? I don't get it! My wife and I have taken ours out twice now, fully loaded (camping gear, cloths, food, water, Macbook, camera, wine, bike lock, etc...) and can't figure out what the problem is? These bikes ride great with a load! I can tell you, I had just over 50lbs on my bike this weekend and my wife had just over 32lbs and to be honest I can't imagine what else we could need and/or could be missing. Is 50lbs considered "Light"?

Anyway thanks for reading.





 

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Routes / Re: Prague to...
« on: April 10, 2009, 08:46:45 pm »
I just got my Czech maps and camping guide in the mail today for our (wife and I) trip this summer. We are riding from Prague to Vienna and hopefully to Budapest if we have enough time. We ordered the maps from http://www.pragueviennagreenways.org/order.html and we got them in 8 days. How cool is that? 

Anyway just thought I would pass on the word about the maps.

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Routes / Re: Prague to...
« on: February 23, 2009, 10:16:03 pm »
We were in Prague last summer and it was awesome!! We can't wait for this August when we'll return for a bike tour!

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Routes / Re: Prague to...
« on: February 23, 2009, 05:50:16 am »
Thank you Geeg! Have you been back since your tour in '99?

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Routes / Re: Prague to...
« on: February 19, 2009, 06:02:46 am »
**Bump**

Hello All,

I had to bump this back to the top after finding it. My wife and I are planning a similar trip this summer from Prague > Vienna > Budapest too and pretty much like Bern are looking to camp most of the time. So if anyone has any locations of campsites along this route that would like to post them that would be great. 

Thanks all

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Gear Talk / BOB Ibex trailer
« on: December 15, 2008, 07:39:56 pm »
Ok after tightening the rear end of the trailer where the shock assy.
attaches to the trailer frame the wobble is gone. I can stand and stretch,
ride with only one hand on the bars, etc... and it doesn't feel like the bike
is about to toss me off. {insert BIG SMILE}


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Gear Talk / BOB Ibex trailer
« on: December 14, 2008, 10:22:09 am »
Hello All,

I used our Bob Ibex trailer yesterday for the first time and it was a horrible feeling. It caused my bike to wobble the whole time and it was barely loaded (less than 20lbs). When I stood up to stretch, it got worse, a lot worse. Anyone else ever experience this? I don't recall reading about this during my reviews; otherwise, I would have never bought the thing! I do plan on talking with BOB early next week and see what they have to say. Anyway...  :confuse:


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Gear Talk / Co-motion Americano vs Norwester Tour
« on: December 27, 2008, 11:08:28 am »
Centrider - do you own the NorWester Tour or just the NorWester? I don't want to disagree with you, but my NorWester Tour handles nothing
like my road bike. I've only done one weekend trip so far on mine, but I estimate I was carrying about 65 lbs of crap plus me and the bike
handled very, very nice. In fact, if I didn't have to return home and to my job, I would have just kept going and going. There is no way I could
have done this with my Merlin, which is designed for very long road rides and/or credit card touring.

Tourista829 (aka Bob) - Thank you for the compliments. They do look a lot better in person, setup with the bags and trailer. Did Manny show
you the pics of the clearance between the Toe/Heel & panniers? There's plenty of room unless your sport'in a size 14" foot! :-)

 







This message was edited by robenne on 12-27-08 @ 8:09 AM

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Gear Talk / Co-motion Americano vs Norwester Tour
« on: December 14, 2008, 09:38:52 pm »
Hello Bob,

I'll try and give you a ring this week sometime. Right now we are still in Inverness camping, but we'll be riding home tomorrow. I took another look at the trailer today and noticed the rear end was a little loose, so I'm thinking that may be the issue. I tightened everything up today, so we'll see tomorrow how it handles. We really like the Ortliebs. They have plenty of room and yes you can order the pockets that attach to the outside of the panniers. I am carrying my MSR fuel bottle in one and bike repair stuff (tubes, patches, tools, air, etc...)in the other.


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Gear Talk / Co-motion Americano vs Norwester Tour
« on: December 14, 2008, 10:29:31 am »
The bikes seem to ride great with a decent load; however, the BOB Ibex trailer has to go! I barely had anything in it (gallon of water, 1.5 liter of wine, 2 Therm-a-Rest Pro 4 rolls, 1 pair of shoes) and it made the whole bike wobble. Noticable while sitting and extremely noticable when standing to stretch, almost uncontrolable! BOB says it's rated to 75 lbs but .... there is no way I'd try that.

Anyone have any thoughts about the trailer issue?


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Gear Talk / Co-motion Americano vs Norwester Tour
« on: December 11, 2008, 08:25:12 pm »
Hello Bob,

No worries, it's all good; however, I would have been a little upset if Manny let you ride my bike without my ok and I'm sure you & everyone else can understand that.  

Yes we went with the Pearl colors (TruBlue & Cinnamon), Tubus racks (rear = Cargo, front = Tara),a full setup of Ortleib panniers (rear = Bike Packer Plus, front = Front Roller Plus, & handlebar = Ultimate Plus w/ map case), & SKS P-45 ChromoPlastics fenders. Next week we'll be taking them back over to UBC, so Manny can put them on display for a couple weeks and hopefully snag a few more people into the touring world. They'll be setup complete with panniers installed and our Bob Ibex trailer, so you can get a good look at them then. No rides though! ;)

Next week I'll post up a link to some photos of our little trip from this weekend.


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Gear Talk / Co-motion Americano vs Norwester Tour
« on: December 11, 2008, 06:21:57 am »
Oddly enough my wife and I picked up two NorWester Tour Co-Pilots last night.   ;)

We plan on doing a short (~140 round trip) fully loaded (tent, stove, sleeping bags, etc...) two nighter this weekend. However, last night we rode them around the
neighborhood (unloaded) and mine felt very solid and smooth. Of course, this was around the block and unloaded, so we'll see how they feel once we're on them for a
couple hours with a load. After this weekend I'll be able to give a better report. Both bikes weighed in with racks & fenders installed at 28.03 and 28.04 pounds.

It's been a long journey just to get to this point, but I'm sure we're going to enjoy these bikes for several years!

Many thanks to my LBS and Co-Motion for helping us put this together. The bikes look freaking AWESOME!!!

Stay tuned for the full report...


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