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Routes / Re: Pacific Coast or new Sierra - Cascades route?
« on: March 23, 2010, 02:48:40 pm »
Given three weeks, a start in Seattle or Vancouver, and a finish in San Francisco I'd say just stick with the coast and save the Sierra Cascades for next year.

On the other hand...
Maybe consider taking the Sierra Cascades route to Sisters and then the TA to Florence and follow the coast south from there.  Three weeks is probably a bit tight on the time for that though.  Check the mileage and decide if that can work for you.

Gear Talk / Re: looking to start touring advice.
« on: March 22, 2010, 06:04:23 pm »
No need to custom build or change a bunch of stuff, at least in my opinion.  Any of the touring bikes on the market will do fine.  You could tour on your current bike if you want to.  Folks do custom builds because they like to do them, not because there is any real need to.

I rode what I think is the cheapest real touring bike on the market (Windsor Touring $599 delivered) coast to coast (4244 miles on the Trans America) as did my two companions.  We found it worked fine stock except we felt the stock gearing was too high so we spent $80 for a Sugino XD 600 crank.  The quality of all components was fine the gearing was just too high.  I also used that bike on my Santa Fe trail tour last Spring and plan to use it this Summer to do the Sierra Cascades route.

There are a number of bikes that are well suited to touring that are at a reasonable price point.  A few are the Novara Randonee, Windsor Touring, Long Haul Trucker, and a bunch of others.  All of them are fine stock if the gearing is suitable to the route you plan to ride.

BTW the Pacific coast is a great place to tour!  Enjoy it.

You have inspired me.  I think I will do the same thing for the Sierra Cascades Route once the maps are out.  It seems like a good way to preview the route and if going to the pages anyway creating a web page isn't that much extra effort.

General Discussion / Re: Bike Cover
« on: March 20, 2010, 02:20:03 pm »
Although extra weight, I like the Big Agnes, Big House 4 Tent and Vestibule. You can put your bikes in their. (sensor alarm on zipper) It protects against the rain, prying eyes, and if we have a disagreement, I can sleep in the vestibule not outside. (LOL) When we travel we like the room, especially on really rainy days. :D
Wow, you must really like a lot of space to be willing to carry 15+ pounds of tent and vestibule (16+ if you bought the footprint too).  Is that for two of you?

I carried a 9 or 10 pound tent for three of us on the Trans America and cursed at it's weight every single day!  A couple days in the Appalachians I felt like all I did was curse at the tent :)  If I were starting the same trip today, I would be willing to spend a good bit more and put up with a bit less space to lose a few pounds on the tent.  Since then, I have since decided that 30 pounds base gear was my limit including panniers and 20-25 is my goal.  That requires a much lighter tent for me.

Very nice.  Thanks for sharing.

General Discussion / Re: Bike Cover
« on: March 20, 2010, 11:32:02 am »
No cover here.  Just extra weight to carry that I don't need.

General Discussion / Re: Money money money!
« on: March 18, 2010, 12:15:07 pm »
A very rough rule of thumb is $1 per mile. If you do like a young man I met in Virginia and live out of dumpsters you can probably bring this down.
I am curious if you are credit card touring, camping, cooking, etc.  Also are you including airfare and other expenses than daily stuff.  $1 per mile seems really high unless it is moteling it the whole way or doing pretty low daily mileage.  I am not knocking it just curious what it is based on.

Good luck and have a great tour.

Routes / Re: Crooked Road route
« on: March 18, 2010, 12:02:02 pm »

i'll have to look at some better road maps and try and incorporate va creeper trail.
i've heard good things about that trail.

also doing the route during music festival season (esp the wayne henderson festival) would be pretty sweet.
Keep us posted.

On the Creeper Trail...
Maybe I am a rare exception, but on our 2007 Trans America we started to ride some of the Creeper Trail and found the road much preferable.  The bike traffic was going the opposite way and paying absolutely no attention where they were going.  Time after time we met groups of folks on rental bikes riding 3 or 4 abreast across the whole trail and not looking where they were going.  They rent bikes and get shuttled to go only down hill.

This was in the middle of the week so I am guessing it would be worse on a weekend.

My advice would be to give the trail a try, but have an alternate route in mind in case your experience is similar to ours.

Routes / Re: Crooked Road route
« on: March 17, 2010, 07:46:32 pm »
It looks promising.  It goes through mostly rural beautiful country.

General Discussion / Re: Health Issue(s)
« on: March 17, 2010, 08:45:55 am »
I don't get it.  He suggested that the OP see a doctor and get his health issues sorted out.  What is wrong with his post that makes it spam like, other than the fact that English is probably not his first language?


I'm leaving May 1st for my first cross country and am pretty tight on cash.  Have any of you ever raised money via your bike trip?  I unfortunately have had a few family members die from lung disease so I was thinking of getting in touch with the American Lung Association. Any ideas on fundraisers or events to hold / advice on holding these events?


Personally I find it pretty sleazy when folks fund their trips with money donated for a charity.  I would advise doing as John suggested and have all charity money go directly to the charity and if you want to accept donations for your expenses make that a separate thing.

I don't understand why would anyone think that their vacation should be paid for by others donations.  If I knew a rider was using any of my donation to fund their personal expenses I wouldn't donate.  If I found out after I made a donation I would feel like my money was stolen.

General Discussion / Re: A Riding Partner Can Be...
« on: March 13, 2010, 09:18:03 am »
...or most of that all at once.

General Discussion / Re: Google Maps Bicycling
« on: March 12, 2010, 06:08:03 pm »
Over all it looks like a good effort for beta.

I hope they add the ability to pick some options.  For example I'd just as soon skip "bike paths" in favor of suitable roads, but many (most?) go out of their way to ride bike paths.  Some want almost no traffic and don't mind tiny meandering roads, others find moderate traffic and a larger direct road preferable.  As a result someone will be unhappy what ever they do unless you can specify some options.

In any case it is great that they doing this.

Gear Talk / Re: Road Shoe vs Touring Shoe?
« on: March 12, 2010, 05:13:48 pm »
Actually, I can't argue with that at all Stay-hip. I've got dominator mt. Sidi's. Not as stiff as I would like, and the more basic roads have the same sole I believe. However, the carbon soled are way stiffer. If i were going to get road shoes, I'd definitely pony up for the the carbon soled shoes.
Yep true enough that carbon shoes will be stiffer and Sidi makes carbon MTB shoes too,  A bit rich for my blood though.

BTW are you located near Santiam Pass?  My daughter and I should be riding through there some time near the end of June on our Sierra Cascades tour.  We rode McKenzie Pass on the TA in 2007 so we were near there then.  That part of Oregon is a beautiful part of the country.

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