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General Discussion / Re: bicycle touring website - car free paths
« on: March 06, 2010, 11:38:39 am »
I'm not sure whether I like this or not.  I tend to be one of those who thinks that we need to integrate bicycles, not segregate them. 
My thoughts as well.  I an generally not a fan of bike paths and tend to usually avoid them when there is a choice between a bike path and riding on the road.  The notion of a tour entirely on a bike path doesn't appeal to me much.  That said I was impressed by the awesome bike paths in the Frisco/ Breckenridge area when we passed through there when riding across the country.

They have a place though and I know that there are folks who prefer them.  When my daughter was too young to safely ride on the road, it was great to ride the North Central Trail.

General Discussion / Re: Sex drugs n rock and roll
« on: March 05, 2010, 02:56:18 pm »
Prilosec OTC by Procter & Gamble and Zegerid OTC by Schering-Plough are both available over the counter (without prescription).  If in doubt ask your doctor if they are OK.

Routes / Re: Sierra Cascade Route, starting to sweat the release date
« on: March 05, 2010, 02:14:55 pm »
Call the Sales Department (800-721-8719) in mid-April. The maps should be in the office around then. I can't give you an exact date because the printing process is always approximate.

Routes / Sierra Cascade Route, starting to sweat the release date
« on: March 05, 2010, 10:58:51 am »
I think have read "late winter or early spring of 2010", "late march", and now on the map at it says "Research was completed in the summer of 2008 and the maps should be available late spring 2010."

This has me nervous since we have a planned departure of June 1 and Spring ends June 21st.  We will go with or without AC maps, but using a 20 year old guide book would not thrill me.  Has the delivery date really slipped to late Spring?  Is it going to slip further?

I have to say I will be very disappointed with Adventure Cycling if they do not have maps available by our June 1 start date when they projected late winter or early spring of 2010 at the time we started seriously planning the trip.

So...  Is there any updated word on what the real release date might be?

General Discussion / Re: My Idea
« on: March 05, 2010, 10:19:12 am »
Don't do it alone.
the young women that I have met who did an XC tour alone would disagree with Scott's advice.

But their mothers would all agree with it.  :)

I'm with Pete. You'll be fine either way.
For what it is worth both Moms and Dads worry, it is in their job description.  I worry when my daughter travels whether by bike or otherwise.  That said I encourage it and am proud that I raised a confident independent daughter.

BTW, I like the article Jennifer linked to.

General Discussion / Re: Sex drugs n rock and roll
« on: March 05, 2010, 08:07:14 am »
Ha gotcha, actually I need to buy medicine while in the USA as our NHS won't give me/sell me enough to cover the entire trip.

Do I have to register with a Doctor or can I go into a pharmacy and buy medicine I need Losec daily which isn't available over the counter here. How can I do it?

I think that is the same as Prolosec which is available as an over the counter purchase (Prilosec OTC).  Double check, but I think Prilosec OTC is probably what you want.

General Discussion / Re: Money money money!
« on: March 05, 2010, 07:15:20 am »
Personally, after I add up all the bills, often times it averages out to about $40 to $50 a day.
Out of curiosity is that counting only daily expenses or are you counting airfare, shipping the bike, maps, and other stuff bought pre or post tour?  Personally I can't see myself spending that much, but some spend more.

I think if you count buying the bike, racks, and panniers and also count airfare and other pre or post tour expenses we still came in at good bit less than that on our Trans America.

On my spring tour I didn't cook, ate restaurant food most of the time, and stayed in a motel half the time.  Not counting air and train fare I think it came in at a bit under $30 a day.  That was in Kansas where motels are generally real cheap.  Being a cheapskate, I think that is about the max I am likely to spend.

General Discussion / Re: Money money money!
« on: March 04, 2010, 07:16:48 pm »
How much on average do you spend per day on tour?
It varies depending on the tour.  I might go as cheap as $10 a day some places to a good bit more others.

On the West coast I'd probably stay in the cheap hiker/biker sites.  I think they were $4 in Oregon and $3 in California last time I checked.  On the TA or other trips across the middle of the country I camp in town parks, church yards, or someones yard usually with either permission or after at least after having spoken to someone to get an idea if I am likely to be bothered.

I would also eat in restaurants more than usual when on the West coast usually second breakfast and lunch with first breakfast (usually only a granola bar or instant oatmeal) and dinner cooked in camp.  I love to try to find a fish shack type place for lunch.

So overall I'd spend more per day on the coast than on the TA.  So I might be close to $20 a day.  I could probably get by on less, but I am less likely to on that route.

Have a great trip.  It is a beautiful coast.

Gear Talk / Re: Gear for a three-day tour
« on: March 04, 2010, 05:38:59 pm »
Everyone's tolerance of the cold is different, but here is what has worked for me...

The temps you mention sound like the temps I had on my Spring tour when starting in the early darkness.  I started in shorts and a short sleeved jersey with a wind breaker over it.  As the day warmed up I took off the windbreaker.  That was fine for me.  My legs might have been slightly chilly when starting but quickly warmed up.  The coldest mornings were 40 (F) or so.

If I wanted a bit more warmth I'd probably use either thin tights or leg warmers (maybe 40 to the mid 30s).

If it was substantially colder (lower 30s?) I have some tights that are slightly brushed inside.  They are substantially warmer.

If it were really cold I have some tights that are windproof in the front they are good in bitter cold weather (0 and single digits), but I'd probably never take them on tour.

Generally I would guess what the temps would be and the the one of the three that seemed to make sense.  Worst case I'd wear the rain pants or have something mailed from home.  That hasn't happened yet though.

I carry light weight rain pants but have never worn them while riding.  It is nice to be able to be dry in camp in the evening though.

On the thin tights vs leg warmers issue... 
Leg warmers are easy to take off as it warms up and lighter. 

On the other hand tights were nice to wear under my zip off leg pants in camp on cold evenings. 

Wearing bike shorts all the time is not acceptable to me I need a break from them in the evening.

Gear Talk / Re: front/rear pannier loading for credit card touring
« on: March 04, 2010, 02:50:48 pm »
Thank you both for responding to my query post. 

I will drop down to a 3 lb netbook (w/charger) and will be traveling in warmer weather so I do plan to reduce my packed weight considerably.  On the other hand the route will include ACA Western Express so I expect to need to carry a lot of water (at times) and more parts/tools than my previous experience.   

Yeah water can add up quickly and it isn't optional.

Before you start be sure about daily mileages and destinations since the WE is pretty remote.  I have not ridden it but I bet Credit Card touring will be a real challenge due to the distance between services.  It looked like it would be a challenge on the TA and the Western Express is reportedly much more remote.  I know that even on the TA there were some pretty long sections with nothing in the way of services.  I think there was one place where we were 80 miles between water stops.  The WE would probably be much worse.

Gear Talk / Re: front/rear pannier loading for credit card touring
« on: March 04, 2010, 12:27:13 pm »
How much weight and bulk are we talking about?  Maybe split the load between front panniers and your trunk bag?

Different strokes, but I would shoot for 10 to 15 pounds of gear if credit card touring and I would be inclined to pack it in small front panniers.

A six pound computer, wow!  Obviously it's your choice, but I think a net book is too much to carry.  My under 8 ounce Nokia N800 is about my limit and on a short tour I might leave it home.  A web enabled cell phone would be sufficient if it weren't for the monthly charges.

General Discussion / Re: My Idea
« on: March 04, 2010, 12:12:20 pm »
Don't do it alone.
I won't advise whether you should or shouldn't beyond saying that the young women that I have met who did an XC tour alone would disagree with Scott's advice.  If you can go with someone that can be a plus, but realize that a good portion of groups of two or more typically split up at some point any way.  You have to be really compatible or really committed to staying together to make it work.

Routes / Re: Biking for Local Food
« on: March 03, 2010, 12:32:08 pm »
maybe you could fill BOB trailer with dirt and grow the food as you'll get plenty of sunshine/rain/etc and won't go bad as fast? : ;D

Ha!  The visual I have in my head is priceless because I can see someone doing something like this if it hasn't been done already.

You could actually sprout your own sprouts as you go.

My idea of "local food" on tour is sampling the regional dishes that are available.  Seafood on the coast, grits or maybe biscuits and sausage gravy in the south, and so on.  Also I figure that eating some junk food or fast food won't kill me as long as I manage to get some decent variety.

General Discussion / Re: Roadside repair question...
« on: March 03, 2010, 07:43:22 am »
Harris Cyclery sells a portable mini-lockring tool that does what you want, it allows you to remove the lockring while the wheel is on the bike with no other tool.  Here is the URL reference:

Here is a reference for a DIY tool that does the same thing but, read the caveats before using it.  Used incorrectly or if the lockring is very tight it can damage your frame.

Harris also sells the Unior it costs less than half as much weighs less and works fine.

Routes / Re: Biking for Local Food
« on: March 02, 2010, 08:19:32 am »
Good luck with that.  We found that fresh produce sources were few and far between much of the time on the TA.  Many places you pass through only small towns for considerable distances.  In the little general stores fresh produce was extremely limited and generally not fresh at all.

I would rather make do with what is fairly readily available than carry a lot of food.  My advice is just enjoy what you find and consider it a bonus when you manage to get decent produce, local or otherwise.

The places on the TA where we saw a produce stand or someone selling produce off their tailgate we definitely took advantage of it, but they were few and far between.

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