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Routes / Re: Ideas from San Fran??? End of tour advice needed please.
« on: July 30, 2012, 07:15:08 pm »
After all those miles you are ready for sonora pass.  It is exceptionally beautiful.

http://www.chainreaction.com/sonora_pass.htm

Utah canyon country can be very hot this time of year.

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We stayed at the church the night of 7/18/2012.  Apparently they had multiple incidents that led to this decision.

This was posted:
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DEAR CYCLISTS:

EFFECTIVE WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 1, 2012, THIS CHURCH WILL NO LONGER BE HOSTING TRAVELING BICYCLE RIDERS.

WE APOLOGIZE FOR THE INCONVENIENCE, BUT A FEW RIDERS HAVE SPOILED THE PRIVILEGE FOR THE MANY.

PLEASE HELP US IN SPREADING THE WORD.  THE ADVENTURE CYCLING ASSOCIATION HAS BEEN NOTIFIED OF OUR DECISION.

The rules were also posted.  Apparently some cyclists violated the rules or common courtesy.  If you feel you may have been responsible I urge you to contact Pastor Brent and apologize and make amends.

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BICYCLISTS' RULES OF THE ROAD
Dear bicyclists,
First Baptist Church of Jeffrey City, Wyoming is pleased to have you stay with us!  Please keept the helpful information and rules on this page in mind.  Doing so will allow you, your fellow cyclists, and those who may come after you to continue to enjoy having a place of shelter while traveling this leg of the journey!  Thank you and enjoy your stay!

HELPFUL INFORMATION
1. While there are no showers available, hot and cold running water is available in the restrooms, and you may take a sponge bath should you so choose.  Please remember to turn off the water, and to clean up after yourself.
2. The kitchen is fully functional, with a refrigerator, stove, and microwave.  Please remember to clean up after yourself.  There is hot and cold water available in the kitchen sink.
3. Should you wish to check you email or post your travel pictures to the internet, wifi services are available.  The SSID for this service is XXXX, and the passphrase is XXXX. ... Please be considerate of others and remember that bandwidth is limited.  In light of this, please do not abuse this privilege by watching videos on Netflix, YouTube, etc.  Any use of wifi to view pornography, or to engage in any activity that you would imagine a Pastor or curch would frown upon, is prohibited.  While we have no way of monitoring your online activity, God can clearly see what you're up to.  You're on the honor system.

RULES
1. No drugs, alcohol, or any related paraphenalia is allowed on church property.
2. The items that are being stored in the church basement are being stored here temporarily, and are the personal property of the Pastor and his family.  These items are NOT to be disturbed under any circumstances, or for any reason (including trying to "tidy up" to be helpful).  Please keep in mind this simple motto: "IF IT DOESN"T BELONG TO YOU, LEAVE IT ALONE."
3. Please turn off the lights when leaving a room.
4. Please turn off the water.
5. If you make a mess, please clean it up.  This is not a motel, and there is no housekeeping staff.
6. If you move it, please put it back.
7. If you open it, please close it.
8. If you turn it on, please turn if off.
9. If you break it, please fix it.  If you can't fix it, report it to someone who can.  If you do fix it, please report it anyway.
10. The main gym area of the basement is where bicyclist are to camp.  The other rooms (other than the bathrooms) contain nothing that would be of any interest to you during your stay with us, so we ask that your please leave them undisturbed.  The sanctuary upstairs is where we hold our church services, and is not provided as an area for sleeping or lodging.  Unless a guest is going upstairs to join us for services, there is no need to go upstairs.
11. Please do not litter.  Take only pictures and leave only footprints.
12. Please leave things in at least as good a condition as they were when you arrived.

Should you desire to leave a donation for the church, please drop it in one of the cup holders on the treadmill on the south wall of the basement gym area.

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Its not suicide, but heat exhaustion and heat stroke are definite possibilities, especially if your are unlucky, unprepared, and ignorant of the desert.  We rode the western express in July once, temps up to 115.  Rode a lot at night.  many 85 miles stretches without any services or water.  We carried up to 2 gallons of water each.  You route would cross but wouldn't be on the western express, but I would expect plenty of heat and long stretches without services.  I really liked the WE but I don't think I would be at all tempted by the Jackson to LA route you mentioned.

Another idea is to get to the Oregon coast any way possible (ride,fly,bus,hitch ?) and ride the coast to LA.  Extremely beautiful.  State parks with hiker/biker sites abound.   Some wind like WY, but it should be blowing south! 

Or your original plan.

Best Wishes whatever you decide,
Steve

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General Discussion / Re: My TA has begun
« on: May 04, 2012, 06:22:57 pm »
Tim,

Congratulations on reaching Colorado.  If you decide to head uphill from Cortez some of the most beautiful mountains in the state await you, lizard head on 145 or molas,  coal bank, red mountain on 550.  Best wishes whatever way you choose.

Steve

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Routes / Re: Northern Tier: Change of route May 2012
« on: April 30, 2012, 01:46:28 pm »

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The revised GPS data for sections 3 and 4 are now included in the download at the web site.

You can look at on online map or download a google earth version of the revised northern tier at http://tsteven4.qwestoffice.net

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Routes / Northern Tier is intact again
« on: April 20, 2012, 07:28:10 pm »
ACA has updated the northern tier route, and it is once again contiguous.  Thanks. Thanks. Thanks.

You can see the entire route including the changes in North Dakota here:

http://tsteven4.qwestoffice.net/maps/northern_tier_route.kmz
http://tsteven4.qwestoffice.net/maps/NorthernTierRoute.html


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Gear Talk / Re: Need a large lightweight bag
« on: April 14, 2012, 04:31:45 pm »
You may want to consider checking your bike, with any bits that you can't carry on, e.g. a knife, and carrying on the rest.  we usually put one nearly empty front pannier in the box with the bike holding the restricted items.  be sure to tie the pannier to the bike in case the box gets ripped.  We usually put the tent poles and blue foam sleeping pad in the bike box also.  Don't overstuff the bike box, try to keep it as light as you can.  Then we carry on the other front pannier, and the two back panniers snapped together. we stuff our sleeping bags and tent into one of the panniers.   wear your helmet.  wear your bike shoes.  wear your coat.   you may be at the carry on limit, but we have never had a problem.   we evolved to this system after years of putting the panniers in their own box and checking them.  the only trick is finding a bike box for the return flight.

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General Discussion / Re: Campgrounds and bear boxes
« on: March 15, 2012, 08:39:01 am »
Certainly not.  There are fairly common, but not ubiquitous, in the Canadian and U.S. National parks.  One of the campgrounds on the icefields parkway we stayed at didn't have boxes, but they did have cables rigged to a high crossbar that worked just as well.  Also be aware that not all the campgrounds on the icefields parkway have drinking water, we had to filter ours at some.  The icefields parkway is fantastic, we tried to ride extra slow to make it last longer.  Outside the national parks, even in Montana, boxes are rare and you will need to fend for yourself.  We got by fine with a rope that weighed a lot less than two pounds.

WE is a great route, but be prepared for serious heat and lack of support and water.  115 degrees when we did it one summer.  I remember hearing weather reports that Phoenix was even hotter.

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General Discussion / Re: overseas travel
« on: March 05, 2012, 03:17:36 pm »
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The airlines will sell a bike box to anyone who wants one.

Russ,  As far as I can tell airlines selling bike boxes was something from the good old days.  Do you know of any airlines that still sell bike boxes?  I haven't got a box from an airline since the mid 1990s.  It sure made things easier on the return leg, although we often found that they wouldn't have any when we got to the airport to pick them up.  If I am just looking at the wrong airlines I sure would appreciate knowing it.

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Routes / Re: Trail of the Coeur d'Alenes
« on: March 01, 2012, 02:33:21 pm »
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Be prepared for some very steep sections going over Dobson.

Well that settles it.  We managed Sonora Pass a few times fully loaded, I welcome the steep!  Bruce put some good gears on our bikes, front/rear = 22/30 and 22/32.

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Routes / Re: Trail of the Coeur d'Alenes
« on: March 01, 2012, 08:40:55 am »
Thanks to everyone for their ideas and information.  I am intrigued by the Lewiston grade commuter mentioned, a.k.a. the old spiral highway http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lewiston,_Idaho#Highways.  I may have to turn this trip around and go east so we can climb this (and have much more favorable winds along the Columbia).

For future reference Rick Shaffer, the "Prime Minister" of the Friends of the Coeur d'Alene Trails had the following ideas. You can reach him through http://friendsofcdatrails.org/contact.html.

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Ideas- take Rte 200 from Missoula to Paradise to Thompson Falls; come over the divide to Murray and Rte 456 over Dobson Pass to Wallace which is 7 miles in from the e trailhead of the Trail of the Cdlens.   All good road.

 
#2 per my knowledge, you can get most of the way from Missoula to St. Regis on the frontage road Along I-90.  Then take the 17 mile ride to Paradise and follow the above.

 
If you have tires that will take dirt, u can go all almost all the way from St. Regis to the Silver Valley on a frontage road.

 
Also from St. Regis, you can take a great ride over Gold Creek Pass to Avery – St. Marys.

 
More- after doing the trail of the Coeur d’Alenes; you can ride up 95 to Coeur d’Alene and jump on the bi state Centennial Trail into Spokane.

 
Of course, wider tires allow for more options.

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Gear Talk / Re: Shimano 8-speed
« on: February 22, 2012, 07:12:02 pm »
I have had plenty of luck removing and reinstalling 8 and 9 speed SRAM links.  All my links have had this done ~twice before I retire the chain. With a dirty chain you can use this trick
SRAM Master Link Removal:
Squeeze side plates together with thumb and index finger, and pull ends of string (which may take two more hands!)

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Routes / Trail of the Coeur d'Alenes
« on: February 20, 2012, 08:14:25 am »
I am interested in possible routes from Missoula that use the Trail of the Coeur d'Alenes and then go west to Seattle.  Some possibilities I am considering are a connection with the Northern Tier in Sandpoint or connection with the Lewis & Clark at Lewiston or another point to the west.  This seems like a rather large deviation to pick up the 70+ mile Trail of the Coeur d'Alenes, but that trail looks very nice.  I am fine with the extra miles if the connection can be done on roads that make for good cycling.

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General Discussion / Re: Short colorado ride.
« on: February 04, 2012, 12:35:05 pm »
Wait for spring.

36 is unpleasantly busy between Lyons and Estes Park, especially going uphill.
7 is much nicer.  South St. Vrain canyon is scenic and not very steep.  There are nice views of Longs Peak before the top of Wind River Pass (9130).

If you are continuing up from Estes Park you can take Trail Ridge or the unpaved Fall River Road after they open.


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Routes / Re: A California Tour (Pleasanton CA to Mono Lake CA)
« on: January 23, 2012, 07:35:32 pm »
Go Tim.  Sonora Pass is one of my favorite rides in CA.  Having done it both ways (loaded/unloaded) and both directions I can say an advantage to being loaded is your front wheel stays on the pavement!  You will notice the contrasts between the Sierras and the Rockies on your upcoming ride.

Fred, I think the west side is the steepest, 26%.  I seem to recall the east side was ONLY 23%.

See http://www.chainreaction.com/sonora_pass.htm, the over and back is a KICK!  My gearing advice would be ~22/24 front with a ~30/32 rear cog.

P.S. with respect to your statement "But then I think about what Utah & Colorado will be like.", UT and CO will be quite a bit easier.

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