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Routes / Re: Blue Ridge Parkway / Skyline Drive input
« on: August 24, 2012, 01:39:02 pm »
I have ridden both the BRP and the Skyline Drive, most recently haven ridden the BRP south to north this summer.

The Skinner book is excellent describing the terrain that can be expected but the description of the services is lacking, mainly because times just change. There is a 2004 edition of the book, but it is still out of date. I think the recent recession has made a big impact on being able to operate a seasonal business. The NPS has scaled back the operation of their facilities.

One thing I did was use Google's satellite view to scan the intersections to see if anything was actually at the intersection that could be useful and built a list. What you do not want to do is leave the parkway for a facility which is 3 miles away but 2000 feet lower in elevation. You will not be able to see any services from the intersections.

That being said I will say my big restocking points were the Wal-Mart at US 220 in Roanoke, the market at Meadows of Dan, VA, Food Lion grocery store in Blowing Rock, NC and the Ingles grocery store at US 70 in Asheville. All those places can be reached with no distance or elevation penalties to be incurred. By using those stores on BRP I did not really carry more than two days worth of food.

I probably ate my meals equally split between my camp cooking and restaurants. I would eat meals at a restaurant if it was convenient and just felt like it or would just eat out of my pannier or at the camp if not. I tend to prefer my own cooking rather than restaurant food, however it is hard to make everything when you have to eat so much to keep going.

The two times I have ridden the parkway it took me 9 days one time and 8 days the other. I rode the Skyline Drive in 3 days but have never ridden the whole route as one continuous ride. Be prepared for rain because it will, I usually ride it in summer because then the rain will be somewhat warm, in the spring or fall it can be very cold at the higher elevations. You can plan your travel schedule and you may be able to keep to it, or you may not. Fog and a cold rain can put  stop to your day instantly.

NPS campgrounds  are basic and lack any kind of services, but are beautiful. Private campgrounds have services but are pricy. Motels can go either way, the NPS Inns are very nice but not really luxurious, pricy and probably worth staying at one, but I would not stay at all of them. Certainly worth a meal if you are there at a meal time.

There is no way to prepare yourself for the hills, you just grind it out. You will spend all your day climbing. A mountain that takes 2 to 3 hours to climb will be descended in 20 minutes. Eventually you don't care.

It's as a nice of a place to tour as any place in the world. You will be glad that you did it. I think more people would do it if the logistics of getting to the ends wasn't so difficult. The difficulty of the terrain also discourages all but the most self-confident riders.

More specific questions might get a better answer than this so ask something else if you need to.

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General Discussion / Re: Parking at Cumberland Knob
« on: August 21, 2012, 04:32:23 am »
Cumberland Knob is a picnic area with restrooms and water, I have not seen any BRP staff stationed at this location when I have stopped here in the past. If you have a phone number for this location specifically and no one is answering the phone then it's most likely there is no one to receive it. Perhaps a phone call to another location would be more successful. I believe the main office for the BRP is in Asheville.

Cumberland Knob does seem to have adequate parking that a car left there for a few days would not be a problem.


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This is my suggestion and may not be the best solution.

Travel east out of Damascus, VA on US 58 and follow it to Mouth of Wilson, Va. This is about a twenty mile ride perhaps and I believe most of this is still part of the Trans-am route. When you reach Mouth of Wilson you are essentially on the NC border. If you turn down VA 93 south you will cross into NC within a mile. This is the western end of NC Bike Route 4 which runs along the northern border of NC. NC Bike Route 4 essentially connects to the Trans-Am at this location because the distance between the two is just a few miles difference.

Follow NC Bike Route 4 until you reach NC Bike Route 1 near Kerr Lake and Henderson, NC. Turn south on NC Route 1 and follow it to Apex, NC. In Apex you will intersect NC Bike Route 5 which goes to Wilmington, NC and follows the Cape Fear River. In Wilmington you can pick up the ACA Atlantic Coast Route which can be followed to the Charleston area.

Maps are available from the NC DOT for the bicycle routes and the routes generally have direction signs at the intersections. However, signs can sometimes be missing. The route is not the best as it passes through the Raleigh area on Bike Route 1 as the route was planned many years ago and Raleigh has grown significantly.

The web page for the NC bike routes is: http://www.ncdot.gov/travel/mappubs/bikemaps/

Good luck.

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Rather than reply with specifics of the riding route, I am going to reply concerning the theme of finding the roots of country music as your intended purpose.

On the Blue Ride Parkway at milepost 215 there is the Blue Ridge Music Center. Museum of Appalachian music with regularly scheduled concerts. Stop in there while you are on the BRP.

Your posted route will also take you near to Hilton, Va in the southwest corner of the state which is where the Carter Family Fold is located. The Carter Family was the first successful country music recording act from the 1920's and they were from here. The family members operate a concert venue with weekly shows and a museum of family collectables. Many songs that we think of now as traditional were popularized by the Carter Family in their early recordings. Do see one of the Saturday night shows here.

Make sure you check those places out and have a good trip.

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Gear Talk / Re: Touring Bikes Under Consideration
« on: May 16, 2012, 02:01:04 pm »
Co-motion has changed the line up a little bit. The Nor'wester in the line up now is a bicycle for something like a century rider or event ride. Someone who wants a racy  bicycle but probably is not going to race. Stable and a little more up right. The old Nor'wester Tour has been renamed the Cascadia and now comes with disk brakes standard. Co-motion says they did this because the difference between the Nor'wester and Nor'wester Tour had diverged quite a bit over the last few model years and they are trying to avoid confusion.

I own a Nor'wester Tour and it is an excellent touring bicycle. Maybe not as tough as the Americano but if your not going to remote places of the planet it is perfectly capable. I would not hesitate to go anywhere on mine, but I tend to only tour in the US.

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General Discussion / Re: Roadside stand/ camping/ B and B
« on: May 04, 2012, 09:05:39 am »
Stove fuel might be a popular item. You could sell the butane/propane gas canisters and perhaps you could buy Coleman fuel in the gallon can and just sell it to the riders to fill up their fuel bottles and charge by the pint or something as you measure it out of the gallon can.

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I am glad that you enjoyed the Outer Banks, it's a wonderful coastline. My recommendation for traveling to Williamsburg would be to travel to Surry, Va and take the ferry across the James River to Jamestown. Jamestown is on the Trans-am trail but you would need to travel back to Williamsburg on the Colonial Parkway to pick up your maps. This would be much safer than trying to cross the major bridges into Hampton. Jamestown is probably just an hour ride away from Williamsburg so you would not be too far out of the way and the Colonial Parkway is a very nice ride. The area between Merchants Millpond and Surry, Va is rural and although I have never ridden between the two I did look at the route Google maps produced and I think it would be fine. Good luck with the rest of your vacation.

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You should cycle up the Outer Banks as this will be the best stretch of shoreline you would see. From Cedar Point Campground cross over to Emerald Isle on highway 58 and ride the length of Emerald Isle. From the north end of the island cross back to the mainland and enter Morehead City. Follow US 70 north out of Morehead City, once past the city this is a remote highway. Turn onto NC 12 and continue to Cedar Island. Ferry over to Ocracoke and continue to follow NC 12 north taking the ferry at the north end of Ocracoke to Hatteras. There are several national park service campgrounds on the OUter Banks as well as private campgrounds. The Bonner Bridge takes you over Oregon Inlet at Pea Island, sometimes if it is very windy I will hitchhike to cross here. Someone with a truck will pick you up knowing that you are just looking to get across the bridge. Once you get to Nags Head and Kitty Hawk you will back into congestion again. Highway 12 is better to ride on than 158 through this area. US 158 is the better way off the Outer Banks if you are continuing north than crossing on 64 at Manteo. Merchants Mill Pond State Park is a good place to camp for the night when you come off the Outer Banks on 158.

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NC 172 passes through Camp Lejeune Marine Corp Base and has been closed to traffic without the proper identification. You may not be allowed to travel on that road.

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Gear Talk / Re: Bar-end mirror & front down tube shifter?
« on: April 22, 2012, 02:35:55 pm »
This type of shifter setup was popular for a time among criterium racers. They would only be shifting the rear derailleur and would have the front on the big ring and never shift it. All the shifting would be on the rear and they would never have to move their hands off the bars. Then came integrated brake and shift levers and this setup disappeared.

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Mid-Atlantic / Re: VA Parks Cater to Touring Cyclists
« on: April 14, 2012, 05:01:42 am »
I would just like to confirm this as being true in practice. A few friends and I did an overnight trip Easter weekend to Occoneechee State Park in Clarksville, VA. The campgrounds were full and we were not turned away. They were very nice to us and we had a pleasant trip.

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Routes / Re: UK Rider. Recommendations.
« on: January 17, 2012, 06:30:48 am »
If you are up to the challenge, I would recommend riding through North Carolina and Virginia on the Blue Ridge Parkway and Skyline Drive. These are maintained by the National Park Service and run continuously for about 575 miles and cover almost the entire distance of the two states when  traveling north to south. No navigation is really needed and campgrounds are spaced just about the right distance apart. The terrain is difficult and takes you over the highest mountains on the east coast. It's as good as you will find for bicycle touring I believe anywhere.

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Gear Talk / Re: Brooks saddle dye.
« on: December 30, 2011, 03:39:04 am »
I think you are seeing why black became the predominant color of shorts as the black dye in leather saddles does tend to bleed out. The brown saddles do not have the same severity of this problem, but you have already made your purchase.

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Routes / Re: Wilmington, NC to Washington DC late March?
« on: November 19, 2011, 12:17:13 pm »
NC bike route 3 goes to Corapeake, NC south of Suffolk, VA. Google maps produces a 61 mile route to Jamestown, VA where you can pick up the Trans-am Route 76. The Trans-am route intersects USBR1 in Ashland, VA. That area of VA is very remote so I think the roads that Google selects there would be fine.

There are better roads than 301 in eastern NC to ride a bicycle on. Parts of it are fine, other areas aren't so great.

Two days would seem very ambitious to me, but to each their own.

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Routes / Re: Wilmington, NC to Washington DC late March?
« on: November 19, 2011, 05:51:20 am »
This trip could be done by using NC bicycle route 5 which goes from Wilmington to Apex, where it intersects US Bicycle Route 1 which goes to Washington. The routes are signed at the intersections for the most part, signs can sometimes be missing but are generally there. The maps for NC can be requested at: http://www.ncdot.org/travel/mappubs/bikemaps/

Virginia has a general statewide map showing the route: http://www.virginiadot.org/bikemap/

USBR1 is not great going through Raleigh as it was planned long ago and the city has grown significantly.

The NC maps are very good and can be used to navigate. The Va statewide map leaves something to be desired for actual on the road navigation. Perhaps a better map is available.

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