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Routes / Re: Southern tier in the summer time
« on: June 20, 2015, 05:26:19 am »
If you drink a lot of water (1+ gallons) be sure to eat some potato chips or other salty foods often too or your electrolytes will get out of wack.  Happened to me once in deep south Texas after I drank about 2 gallons of water only and little food and it was the worst case of bonking I have had in 35 years.  Ironically, I happened to be riding on FM-666 (Devil Road).  It took about 2.5 days to fully recover.

Routes / Re: East 1/2 Transam - Late Summer - Hints?
« on: June 19, 2015, 09:20:32 pm »
Typically, city pools stay open to either until school starts (mid-August) or Labor Day.  You should be through by Labor Day.

The 30-year average temps August 1st in Ness City is 93.0 and the low is 63.9.  The averages for Eureka is 91.1 & 67.4.  Expect up to a 10 degree variance.

Note:  Missouri will be much worse than KS due to increased humidity and hills.  However, it is obviously doable.  To avoid the hills, use the Katy Trail and reconnect in Chester, IL.

I will let others give the info eastward.

Have an enjoyable ride!!

Routes / Re: noob looking to ride from VT to Acadia NP, ME
« on: June 18, 2015, 04:57:06 pm »
Welcome!  You could always head north to the Northern Tier route and turn east.  Use the and look for Things to Do, Biking, then down load the map to see what route you like.  Have a great trip!

Routes / Re: Info routes Clinton Mo to Denver Co
« on: June 15, 2015, 09:48:57 am »
Contact me privately if you want.  I have two routes that may help.  One goes from Clinton to Alexandria, KS (shorter and flatter but a tad busier BUT misses an entire section of the TA Route). The other goes from Clinton to Girard, KS where you can join up with the TA Route.


Routes / Re: Mission: Tulsa to Ashville!
« on: June 05, 2015, 12:41:14 pm »

Northern AR has only a few paved through roads (don't end in grave) which are typically the highways which are pretty busy and somewhat narrow.  AR has a "bike suitability map" online you can search for to make your own decision.  Personally, I would not ride across AR on US-62 so if you are up to a lot of meandering and with limited services, then northern AR would be fine.  Otherwise, you could go from near Ft. Smith to at least to the east side of Little Rock and then continue east to Memphis or go NE up toward the corner of the state (your original route).  Consider where you want to cross the Mississippi as there are not a ton of crossings.

If you want a route from Tulsa to Memphis via Central AR (first half is very hilly), contact me privately. 

Routes / Re: Mission: Tulsa to Ashville!
« on: June 03, 2015, 09:58:52 pm »

I live in Tulsa and would be happy to help you out of Tulsa.  I would strongly suggest you look at the Arkansas Bike Suitability map and see if you want to ride northern Arkansas.  If you do, I highly recommend you not ride west of Fayetteville to Harrison during a weekend as the traffic is worse.

If you do a central AR route across AR (Ft. Smith area to Memphis) I can help you with a route.

Both AR & OK have lots of semi-narrow highways with no shoulders.  AR makes it worse with lots of curves and hills.  Beautiful state to ride through though.

If you want help, contact me privately.

Best wishes!

Connecting ACA Routes / Re: UGRR to Great Allegheny Passage
« on: June 01, 2015, 09:01:25 am »
I don't quite get what you mean.  The UGRR Pittsburg SPUR (not the regular route) ends in Pittsburgh where the GAP begins (Point State Park).  If you mean connecting from somewhere else on the UGRR, please provide where on the UGRR you would like to connect, i.e. Milford, OH, as that is a whole different answer.

Happy Trails!

Routes / Re: Kansas City to ACA Lewis and Clark Route?
« on: May 30, 2015, 09:04:09 am »
If you have not already bought your ticket, one easy way to deal with traveling through larger cities is to ride early Sunday so you exit the city limits by 10:00am.  Hardly any traffic typically.

Google does show several bike lanes (you clicked on Bicycling in the Getting Around box below the search box, correct).  There is a bike path under the I-70 bridge and then it shows a "cycling friendly" road is Parallel Parkway on the NW side (KS side).  Go west to say 91st street and then north toward Levenworth and Atchison.  NOTE: I am not from KC area and am only using Google Maps for the about info.

Hope you have a good ride!  John

GPS Discussion / Re: BR66 GPS Data ??
« on: May 20, 2015, 01:22:00 pm »

Thank you for the reply. Yes, I did read the FAQ section prior to my post.  While you did not address it, based on your answer I assume ACA will not be offering the service points and/or the way points in the future, especially not as a benefit to members as in the past.

For what it is worth, I can understand why ACA would charge for the data IF they are not a member and/or if they have not purchased the corresponding maps since I am sure there have been at least a few cyclists who have just downloaded the info and not purchased the corresponding maps.

I have been a member since BikeCentennial published the magazine on newspaper stock.  While ACA has grown dramatically since the 70s, the core values/mission seem to be slowly but steadily evolving away from its founding roots.  Inevitable I suppose but it doesn't mean I gotta like it  :).  I will still support ACA, namely since they are the only group involved in route development, but wish ACA would keep to its original core mission a little more.

Thanks for considering the feedback Jennifer and thanks for all you and the Mapping Staff do!


GPS Discussion / Re: BR66 GPS Data ??
« on: May 19, 2015, 11:32:25 pm »
Honestly, it is probably because I am getting to be old fogie and originally learned how to use Waypoints to do routes way back when.  For some reason, I have a really tough time wrapping my head around tracks as routeable info, i.e. gives directions.  Overall though I strongly do not like to do direct routing on the GPS but prefer follow the road.

I figured that about the service points but just wanted them for free.  I can somewhat understand charging for the waypoints/track points, but the service points are much more fluid than the paper maps so they should be included.  Perhaps if they did not charge if you bought the paper maps.  It seems ACA is getting like the airlines where they are starting to charge extra for things that used to be included in the membership price.

GPS Discussion / Re: BR66 GPS Data ??
« on: May 19, 2015, 08:48:15 pm »

I see that we are now required to purchase the data for the BR66.  Will all routes eventually be converted to a profit center like the BR66?  Is this no longer a benefit of membership I take it?  Will the routes and/or service points be made available?  I personally do not like tracks and prefer waypoints and service points.

Thanks, John

Routes / Re: Texarkana to Las Cruces
« on: May 14, 2015, 09:50:55 pm »
If you are talking about the Almagordo to Las Cruces stretch, that is less than 70 miles so you "should" be able to do that, especially if you are credit card touring.  I would study the weather almanac for the wind history during the time you are expected to be there to get an idea as to the wind direction and speed.

Best wishes, John

Routes / Re: Texarkana to Las Cruces
« on: May 13, 2015, 08:53:11 pm »
Can't speak about the early sections.  If you want scenery, from Plains, a slightly better route would be to take US-380 to Capitan (home of the original Smokey the Bear), then south on NM-48 to Ruidoso.  Then Carrizo Canyon & White Mountain Roads to  US-70.  South on NM-244 to Cloudcroft then downhill to Almogordo.

US-70 from Alamogordo to Las Cruces is fine.  There are NO services along US-70 here except water at White Sands.  If possible, camp at White Sands (have to trek 100 feet?? off the road and have permission).  Wind can be your best friend or enemy here.

You didn't say when you are traveling but Cloudcroft gets quite cold at night.  Be sure to check weather averages for the time of year you plan to go, especially if you plan to camp near Cloudcroft.

Best wishes, John

Routes / Re: Cross-US Trail-Based Route - Feedback Please!
« on: April 17, 2015, 12:18:26 pm »
Sounds like a great family trip!  A possible thought (not a suggestion but maybe something to look into) is to finish the Katy Trail in Clinton, take county roads over to Osowatomie, KS, and do the trail to Council Grove, KS then north to Norfolk, NE via county roads and some rail trails.  The New Franklin to IA border will be somewhat hilly but it would be shorter overall.

You do know the Cowboy Trail basically parallels US-20 in Nebraska, correct?

I would suggest the McKelson rail trail in South Dakota and take some time around the Black Hills.  Really nice.

Whatever route you choose, wishing you have a great time!

Routes / Re: Los Angeles to Hilton Head, SC
« on: April 06, 2015, 08:51:52 am »
You might be able to ride I-40 in western OK but since Route 66 parallels it, I personally would not.  All the benefits of being near an interstate without most of the traffic.

Several years ago, I asked Vicksburg if I can ride across the old Highway 80 bridge (also a RR bridge).  They said that while not open except for special occasions, occasionally they open it or will take riders across the river in a truck.  Try giving them a call perhaps to see if it is now open as a pedestrian bridge.

Otherwise, as you probably know, the only other option to cross the Mississippi River are the brand new bridge near Greenville, MS, or ride as far south as New Roads, LA to cross if Natchez does not appeal to you.

Hope you have a good ride!

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