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Routes / US Perimeter Tour?
« on: March 03, 2008, 02:10:18 am »
Sorry for late reply.  I did a last-minute 3/4 perimeter tour (9k miles in 4 months) many moons ago.  They had not developed the ST yet so I headed home.

I think your 60mpd is fine but my biggest hassle was the weather.  Due to me going on at with about 10 days notice, I started late in early July in San Diego to Vancouver to Maine to Key West.  I left San Juan islands August 1st so I had to hook it to beat the snow in Maine.  Then the cold chased me down south to southern Virginia.

If you route timing is not totally finalize, you may want to reconsider heading into AZ in late August/early September as the temps can be quite brutal.  If time/money permit, at Missoula, go north and do some Canadian touring for a couple of weeks so you can not sweat to death and maybe make up some time going to Florida.

Either way, enjoy the ride!

Happy trails and may the wind be at your back!

TulsaJohn

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Routes / Northern Tier vs TransAm
« on: September 04, 2007, 03:22:01 pm »
My experience is 20 years old so bear that in mind.  

The TransAm gives a more varied experience of the USA.  Services slightly closer together.  New scenery or terrain every week.  Sea level to 11,500 feet.  Much more varied weather (hot to cold).  Seemed to have nicer people east of Mississippi River if doing the Lake Erie Connection on NT.

The Northern Tier seemed flatter overall but less scenic (especially in Michigan), nicer overall temps but more rain.  Loved Washington State.  If doing the original NT the route thru Iowa to central Ohio, seemd to be similar geography but really nice people.  Had to push a little to get to Portland, ME because evenings would get too cold for me (30s & 40s at times in September).

Overall, when I do it again, I may do a combi trip with NT in west then dip down thru Yellowstone onto TA.  Either route is good though.

Happy trails and may the wind be at your back!

TulsaJohn

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Routes / MidWest Route info
« on: July 11, 2007, 11:38:31 am »
I don't know about Iowa, but both Kansas and Missouri have websites showing cycle friendly roads.  Do a search and you can locate them.  You might want to do the Katy trail as you mentioned also.


Happy trails and may the wind be at your back!

TulsaJohn

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Routes / southern tier: summer ok? Credit Card ok?
« on: April 17, 2007, 11:39:03 am »
The temps will be 90s & 100s (high 60s to maybe low 80s at night depending on where you are at) but it is the humidity that will be tough.  You don't say where you are from but the humidity will be high and combined with the heat, it can really zap your strength if you are not used to it.  Like anything else, your body will adjust, but the first week or two could be a little rough.

As far as camping equipment, I guess I am confused?  Do you mean sleeping outside but with no gear (the mosquitos could be a pain) but if hotels are what you are looking at, I can't answer that.  The ACA maps should provide an idea on that.

Hope you have a great ride!

Happy trails and may the wind be at your back!

TulsaJohn

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Routes / Bike Around America
« on: May 13, 2007, 10:53:25 pm »
I have done a 3/4 perimeter tour from San Diego to Vancouver to Maine to Key West.  I did this on a spur of the moment thing so started July 4th. I didn't reach Maine until mid-September and got a little snowed on but missed a major dumping by only a few days.  My trip was 9,000 miles and took 4 months with an overall daily average of 68 miles per day with an average of 78-85 (can't remember for sure) miles per riding day.

No matter which routes you take, I would recommend looking at when you do NOT want to be in a certain area at a certain time of year, i.e. northern west coast or Minnesota in January or Arizona in August, and determine your starting/ending point even if non-traditonal.

Reason I said this was that I was young and ignorant (now middle age and ignorant) about hurricanes and ended in Key West in early November.  It had not even entered my mind what I would do if I was in Florida and one was going to hit.  God was with me and kept my miserable rear from a hurricane but I learned a lesson as the day I left for home, a hurricane was annouced but it fizzled to a tropical storm.  Thus I learned an important lesson about mega-trips.

Out of curiousity, are you just leaving in the summer of 2008 and the time is open ended or are you only doing it in the summer of 2008.  If the latter, I don't think you could cover enough ground quick enough in just 90 days or so.  Another option is that you can do a mega route in stages and time/money permits.


Happy trails and may the wind be at your back!

TulsaJohn

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Routes / Vermont
« on: August 25, 2006, 12:24:43 am »
Hey,
Take a look at Map 11 of Northern Tier.  It crosses Vermont and connects with Atlantic coast route.  Perhaps someone can suggest a route from Burlington to Middlebury, VT???

Happy trails and may the wind be at your back!

TulsaJohn

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Routes / Best route to traverse America
« on: August 25, 2006, 12:20:58 am »
Hi,
Part of your decision may be based on when you go.  Doing the Western Express in July or August would be hot.  But Missouri (central TransAm) is awfully humid in August also. I have done the regular TransAm and Northern Tier and if you want a little more variety, probably TransAm favored 55/45 (primarily due to scenery).  I soloed (restaurant & camping) both without problems.  If hoteling it & I assume eating out, I would think $40/day would be pretty tough.  Probably closer to $60+/day minimum for restaurant & hotel.

Wishing you a great trip!


Happy trails and may the wind be at your back!

TulsaJohn

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Routes / Trans Am midpoint????
« on: August 09, 2006, 02:00:24 pm »
The following have airports on or within one day's ride.  You might need to have a box to ship home so that could be an issue at smaller airports.

Pueblo, Vail (beautiful ride on bike path to the west from Frisco), & Steamboat Springs.

Happy trails and may the wind be at your back!

TulsaJohn

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General Discussion / Tour Planning - Ten months out
« on: August 26, 2008, 09:09:20 am »
Don't be intimiated as your have got a ton of time.

I have met people on tour who are using dept store bikes and have 1 set of clothes and a tarp & sheet strapped to their rear rack and were having a blast and others with literally $10k worth of customized bike & gear who weren't as happy since some things were not going as they had planned.  

Point is don't over plan as on any long trip, it never stays as planned.  A lot of the learing can be OTJ training if need be, i.e. look for rocks and roots BEFORE you setup your tent so when you finally go to bed your back is not being stuck.  Obviously, the advice others gave is quite valid but be sure to not fret too much if your aren't 100% ready.  You can always take another day on tour if need be since your are retired you lucky guy!

Since it sounds like this is your first trip like this, perhaps you might consider buying high quality used equipment in case touring is not your cup of tea.

Also, depending on your route & distance per day, you might arrive in the Rockies a tad early as snow can melt late there.  After you get your draft route planned out, you can an idea of how long it will take you to reach the passes and then find out if they are typically open by then.

My best advice is to start off with a properly sized/tuned bike and know how to do at least minimal repairs, i.e. change a flat/tire, adjust brakes & gears, and adjust seat and handlebars.

Also, don't overpack.  If the item can not do at least 2 functions, do not take it unless CRITICAL such as a stove.  Do you really need that pillow or can just some balled up clothes work in a pillowcase (doubles as a laundry bag)?

As Jim said, crazyguy is a great site so you can research/ask questions there also.  Read the journals to get an idea of problems they may have had to learn from their lessons.

Most of all, enjoy the ride!!

Happy trails and may the wind be at your back!

TulsaJohn

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General Discussion / Favorite book
« on: August 16, 2008, 11:57:30 am »
While I think the Bible is far superior to the other book, you might like Miles From Nowhere by Barbara Savage.  Her account of an around the world bike trip.  

Happy trails and may the wind be at your back!

TulsaJohn

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General Discussion / Touring routes library
« on: August 19, 2008, 12:56:54 pm »
Hi,

I meant since I am inputting and wanted to put in accurate info, does ACA want the overall or riding average and does ACA want the cost per day to include transportation, gear bought, etc. or just the actual daily expenses?  Perhaps ACA could update the form to accurately reflect what it wants.  Thanks again!

Happy trails and may the wind be at your back!

TulsaJohn

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General Discussion / Touring routes library
« on: August 18, 2008, 10:29:39 am »
Great idea...didn't know it existed.  Some clarification questions.

Are "Avg miles per day" based on overall or riding?  Does cost per day include transportation to & from?

Happy trails and may the wind be at your back!

TulsaJohn

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General Discussion / Touring routes library
« on: August 16, 2008, 11:55:36 am »
You can try bikely.com or mapmyride.com but be forewarned those may or may not be decent routes.

A lot of states have bike route maps showing which state roads are good to use.

It is not too difficult getting a decent route picked by yourself.  Plus it helps you remember it a lot longer (at least I do anyway).

Happy trails and may the wind be at your back!

TulsaJohn

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General Discussion / ACA Tour Orphans Unite!
« on: May 22, 2008, 12:24:34 pm »
Wow!  While I can't join you on a tour, why did they cancel the tours?  That I would think is a primary mission for the organization.  

Happy trails and may the wind be at your back!

TulsaJohn

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General Discussion / Making a town "tour-friendly".
« on: May 17, 2008, 09:26:21 pm »
I rode through Chester in 1983 and I still remember the absolutely beautiful life guard at the pool.  I was in my late teens and camped out near the pool.

As far as an ideal host town, well I enjoy free/low cost hiker/biker only bunk houses which is typically a donated house converted into a no-frills dorm style house with bunk beds, kitchen, etc.  Due to the summer heat, it would probably need to have AC or at least heavily shaded with lots of ceiling fans.

If you can't do that do to possible vandalism/cost, having a "campground" with large tent pads that are level; slightly raised (1 RR tie); semi-loose dirt (think vegetable cargen, not cement or gravel) to get tent stakes in; a few picnic tables; water faucet; bath house (hot water nice); pay washer/dryer in town; pay phone close by; electrical outlets (to charge cell phones), clothes line, and a "hitchin post" for the bikes.  I would like for it to be in walking distance to the library (internet), and/or wireless service.  All in the shade and so where car lights don't keep you up at night.

If lighted, have the lights either switched by the user or turn off 30 minutes after dark.

All for an honor system (put mone in box) low cost system.

I have tried for years to get ACA to consider working with town along the route to develop stopover towns like the above with no success :|.

As a person with a background in tourism destination development, I (as a town) would gladly spend the relatively small amount of money for the tax base and economic benefits.  It would pay for itself in a few years and help the local businesses.

Since Chester has/had a pool, the biggest expense is already taken care of (bath facilities and phone).

Hope you do it. Best of luck and whatever happened to that blonde?!?


Happy trails and may the wind be at your back!

TulsaJohn

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