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Messages - John Nettles

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Routes / Re: Mission: Tulsa to Ashville!
« on: June 03, 2015, 09:58:52 pm »

I live in Tulsa and would be happy to help you out of Tulsa.  I would strongly suggest you look at the Arkansas Bike Suitability map and see if you want to ride northern Arkansas.  If you do, I highly recommend you not ride west of Fayetteville to Harrison during a weekend as the traffic is worse.

If you do a central AR route across AR (Ft. Smith area to Memphis) I can help you with a route.

Both AR & OK have lots of semi-narrow highways with no shoulders.  AR makes it worse with lots of curves and hills.  Beautiful state to ride through though.

If you want help, contact me privately.

Best wishes!

Connecting ACA Routes / Re: UGRR to Great Allegheny Passage
« on: June 01, 2015, 09:01:25 am »
I don't quite get what you mean.  The UGRR Pittsburg SPUR (not the regular route) ends in Pittsburgh where the GAP begins (Point State Park).  If you mean connecting from somewhere else on the UGRR, please provide where on the UGRR you would like to connect, i.e. Milford, OH, as that is a whole different answer.

Happy Trails!

Routes / Re: Kansas City to ACA Lewis and Clark Route?
« on: May 30, 2015, 09:04:09 am »
If you have not already bought your ticket, one easy way to deal with traveling through larger cities is to ride early Sunday so you exit the city limits by 10:00am.  Hardly any traffic typically.

Google does show several bike lanes (you clicked on Bicycling in the Getting Around box below the search box, correct).  There is a bike path under the I-70 bridge and then it shows a "cycling friendly" road is Parallel Parkway on the NW side (KS side).  Go west to say 91st street and then north toward Levenworth and Atchison.  NOTE: I am not from KC area and am only using Google Maps for the about info.

Hope you have a good ride!  John

GPS Discussion / Re: BR66 GPS Data ??
« on: May 20, 2015, 01:22:00 pm »

Thank you for the reply. Yes, I did read the FAQ section prior to my post.  While you did not address it, based on your answer I assume ACA will not be offering the service points and/or the way points in the future, especially not as a benefit to members as in the past.

For what it is worth, I can understand why ACA would charge for the data IF they are not a member and/or if they have not purchased the corresponding maps since I am sure there have been at least a few cyclists who have just downloaded the info and not purchased the corresponding maps.

I have been a member since BikeCentennial published the magazine on newspaper stock.  While ACA has grown dramatically since the 70s, the core values/mission seem to be slowly but steadily evolving away from its founding roots.  Inevitable I suppose but it doesn't mean I gotta like it  :).  I will still support ACA, namely since they are the only group involved in route development, but wish ACA would keep to its original core mission a little more.

Thanks for considering the feedback Jennifer and thanks for all you and the Mapping Staff do!


GPS Discussion / Re: BR66 GPS Data ??
« on: May 19, 2015, 11:32:25 pm »
Honestly, it is probably because I am getting to be old fogie and originally learned how to use Waypoints to do routes way back when.  For some reason, I have a really tough time wrapping my head around tracks as routeable info, i.e. gives directions.  Overall though I strongly do not like to do direct routing on the GPS but prefer follow the road.

I figured that about the service points but just wanted them for free.  I can somewhat understand charging for the waypoints/track points, but the service points are much more fluid than the paper maps so they should be included.  Perhaps if they did not charge if you bought the paper maps.  It seems ACA is getting like the airlines where they are starting to charge extra for things that used to be included in the membership price.

GPS Discussion / Re: BR66 GPS Data ??
« on: May 19, 2015, 08:48:15 pm »

I see that we are now required to purchase the data for the BR66.  Will all routes eventually be converted to a profit center like the BR66?  Is this no longer a benefit of membership I take it?  Will the routes and/or service points be made available?  I personally do not like tracks and prefer waypoints and service points.

Thanks, John

Routes / Re: Texarkana to Las Cruces
« on: May 14, 2015, 09:50:55 pm »
If you are talking about the Almagordo to Las Cruces stretch, that is less than 70 miles so you "should" be able to do that, especially if you are credit card touring.  I would study the weather almanac for the wind history during the time you are expected to be there to get an idea as to the wind direction and speed.

Best wishes, John

Routes / Re: Texarkana to Las Cruces
« on: May 13, 2015, 08:53:11 pm »
Can't speak about the early sections.  If you want scenery, from Plains, a slightly better route would be to take US-380 to Capitan (home of the original Smokey the Bear), then south on NM-48 to Ruidoso.  Then Carrizo Canyon & White Mountain Roads to  US-70.  South on NM-244 to Cloudcroft then downhill to Almogordo.

US-70 from Alamogordo to Las Cruces is fine.  There are NO services along US-70 here except water at White Sands.  If possible, camp at White Sands (have to trek 100 feet?? off the road and have permission).  Wind can be your best friend or enemy here.

You didn't say when you are traveling but Cloudcroft gets quite cold at night.  Be sure to check weather averages for the time of year you plan to go, especially if you plan to camp near Cloudcroft.

Best wishes, John

Routes / Re: Cross-US Trail-Based Route - Feedback Please!
« on: April 17, 2015, 12:18:26 pm »
Sounds like a great family trip!  A possible thought (not a suggestion but maybe something to look into) is to finish the Katy Trail in Clinton, take county roads over to Osowatomie, KS, and do the trail to Council Grove, KS then north to Norfolk, NE via county roads and some rail trails.  The New Franklin to IA border will be somewhat hilly but it would be shorter overall.

You do know the Cowboy Trail basically parallels US-20 in Nebraska, correct?

I would suggest the McKelson rail trail in South Dakota and take some time around the Black Hills.  Really nice.

Whatever route you choose, wishing you have a great time!

Routes / Re: Los Angeles to Hilton Head, SC
« on: April 06, 2015, 08:51:52 am »
You might be able to ride I-40 in western OK but since Route 66 parallels it, I personally would not.  All the benefits of being near an interstate without most of the traffic.

Several years ago, I asked Vicksburg if I can ride across the old Highway 80 bridge (also a RR bridge).  They said that while not open except for special occasions, occasionally they open it or will take riders across the river in a truck.  Try giving them a call perhaps to see if it is now open as a pedestrian bridge.

Otherwise, as you probably know, the only other option to cross the Mississippi River are the brand new bridge near Greenville, MS, or ride as far south as New Roads, LA to cross if Natchez does not appeal to you.

Hope you have a good ride!

Routes / Re: Great Divide MTB Route options?
« on: April 03, 2015, 12:16:55 pm »
My only concern for you would be that since you most likely would go slower due to the climbs, you would potentially need to carry significantly more food and/or water than a DF bike in places thus slowing you down even more.

I have all kinds of bikes (including an ICE Adventure trike and a HPV Streetmachine recumbent bike) but would be reluctant to use a trike on the GD solely due to the slow speed due to so very much climbing.  Other than speed, trikes are great!

However, whatever you choose to do, enjoy the ride!

As others have suggested, take a look at CrazyGuyonaBike and review the journals.  You very well may find something. 

Maybe I do not understand question since ACA already has routes that do exactly what you want.  They are the North Lakes Route, Sections 1 & 2.

If you want a shorter route and/or prefer a different route, go to Wisconsin's Bicycle Map make your own.  Wisconsin's Bicycle Maps are some of the best.  Pick the criteria that is best for your needs and make the route.

Routes / Re: USGS maps for touring anybody?
« on: March 29, 2015, 11:02:37 am »
Your assumptions are correct.  The USGS maps are very detailed thus you would need to have a lot of maps.  A better, less expensive, choice is to buy used ACA maps.  The maps, while a tad pricey, are very good if you plan to stay on the ACA route as they are cyclotourist specific, i.e. lists campgrounds, groceries, motels, bike shops, etc..  eBay (at least in the US) frequently has used maps as does CrazyGuyOnABike's classifieds.

Another alternative is to buy new maps and then sell them.  Your net cost would be about 1/2 after you sell them.

Finally, you could always just use state maps and determine your own route but that may not be the best solution if you friend has never cycled in the US before.

EDIT:  I just realized you are fairly knowledgeable about ACA (based on your posts) so sorry about the basic info on the maps. At least the info is good for beginners.

Routes / Re: Need additional Rider or Riders ASAP.
« on: March 24, 2015, 01:39:55 pm »
Lars, I should mention that while I mentioned the TransAm, the info is the same regardless of the route.  I have done the AC also so was not putting down the AC but strongly prefer the TransAm and feel the TA would arguably be a better route for a first timer.

Sorry if I caused some confusion.  John

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