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Routes / Re: Why does the PC route bypass Olympic Peninsula?
« on: August 21, 2016, 06:42:53 pm »
Interesting discussion. I too have ridden both Lake Crescent (2009) and 112-113 (2014) and chipped in with comments as appropriate in this forum. We've been spending a lot of time in that area in the last 6-7 years and love riding in the area. I'm surprised to not see any mention of the Olympic Discovery Trail ( as an alternative route. [I have issues with the ODT around Sequim but that's another matter.] Sure the two tunnels are not open yet, but when they are, avoiding Lake Crescent will be a no brainer. The west end at Lake Crescent is paved and looks pretty sweet. The stretch from PA out to Joyce is darn nice as well. It's just the gap between the two . .  As to the nature of traffic along Lake Crescent it certainly is no worse, and in my mind, a whole lot better, than riding through Sea Ranch in CA where there has been no upgrade on CA 1 since Sea Ranch was built. And yes, the clearcuts in the area suck and do detract from both routes. YMMV.

Since we've traveled to Port Townsend several times in the last three years, we've driven the stretch along Hood Canal - other than the proximity of campgrounds I wouldn't take it over the peninsula route - way more traffic (and fast) and so-so shoulders. Certainly scenic enough.

Count me in the camp that favors riding the Peninsula and taking in the side trips, if you can. The part that does rub me the wrong way is the lack of HB camping sites at both Kalaloch and Hoh (not to mention a lack of showers). Sure would like to see ACA put some pressure on the Park Service on this. Riding 18 miles one way from 101 to the Hoh to not find a camping spot is not acceptable.

Santa Rosa, CA

Addendum: see this for trail status

Of note from that page is this:
Hwy 112 and Lake Crescent to Cooper Ranch Rd

Work is continuing along the Waterline Route, which will connect from Hwy 112, via Gossett Rd, to the East Beach trailhead on Lake Crescent. Current effort is on opening the section of old RR grade from the south end of Gossett Rd to the Waterline Road. When completed this will become the ODT route, replacing the temporary Joyce-Piedmont Rd. route. (posted July, 2015)

The Spruce RR segment construction is now complete from East Beach Trailhead to the old RR grade, except for paving. Paving will be the final step when all construction is complete, about 2018-19. The trail is open now, and users can connect through to SolDuc Rd and beyond using the old (rough) single track path through the tunnel area. This section will be closed summer 2016 for construction through the first tunnel. Specific closure dates will be posted here when available. (posted Jan 2016)

The 2 mile connecting segment, from the Hwy 101 crossing west of SolDuc Rd to the SolDuc bridge, has completed design and should be in construction summer 2016. In the meantime, use the shoulders of Hwy 101 and the 2918 Rd to connect between existing trail segments.

The trail from the 2918 Road (Sol Duc Bridge) to Cooper Ranch Rd Trailhead will be subject to temporary closures between May 12 and about Sept 1 2016, due to selective logging adjacent to the trail and some hauling on the shared (wide) section of the trail. Closures will be posted at both ends of this section and trail users can detour by using the shoulders of Hwy 101 between the FS 2918 road and Cooper Ranch Rd. There will be no closures on weekends or Federal holidays. (Posted May 2016)

Major construction work has been announced for Hwy 101 along the south shore of Lake Crescent for 2017 and 2018. We do not expect any significant widening but the shoulder paving should be repaired. There will be periods of closure of Hwy 101 with traffic rerouted to Hwy 112. These may coincide with closure of the trail on the north shore as part of the tunnel reconstruction, in which case the bike alternate will have to be Hwy 112 (there is no other way through). Closure dates for both will be posted here as they are announced. (posted May 2015)

Just from the blog, I'd say that looks pretty cool. Looking forward to the Pac Coast and WE versions.


General Discussion / Re: Black Hills Mickelson Trail and 38C tires
« on: April 27, 2016, 03:42:12 pm »
We rode the trail - Custer to Hill City and back - in 2006 on a tandem with 30c cyclocross tires. Other than one soft spot, it worked well, though we had to work for it. Look forward to riding more of it one of these days . . .

Santa Rosa, CA

Gear Talk / Re: Bike pump for Big Agnes air mattress
« on: February 24, 2016, 06:35:43 pm »
I've used a fit ball pump with a piece of 5/8" i.d. poly tubing to connect the pump to the mattress. After a long day, who wants to waste themselves blowing up the pad? for me, worth the space and the weight (negligible). BTW, notice any issue with the pad squeaking on the tent floor?

Santa Rosa, CA

Routes / Re: Anyone ride on 101 along Lake Crescent in Washington
« on: September 04, 2015, 05:07:03 pm »
I've ridden both 101 at Lake Crescent and 113/112. I agree with AdventurePDX - do it early but that may not help. I don't think the Lake Crescent route is that dangerous but maybe that's just me. The gyppo logger trucks are back in business and that does change the equation. They are not that frequent and if you're attentive to your situation you can make it work. Unfortunately westbound is easier than eastbound. The shoulders are tight, that's why there are warning lights. But there are pullouts that you can use as needed. I just think 113/112 is a nasty slog with many bad shoulders, hard climbs, and more logging trucks.

You said CDT - do you mean ODT? The new ODT on the north side of the lake is gorgeous - you would pick it up just before the summit and descent to Lake Crescent. Have not been on the portion east of the lake - is that the portion you're concerned about? Looks like they are talking about tunnel reconstruction in future years but from reading the trail status I'm not sure I understand what is under construction now.

Routes / Re: Has anyone ridden CA hwy 70 aka the Feather River hwy
« on: August 20, 2015, 04:38:44 pm »
Actually, I don't think you will see much logging traffic - more like cargo trailers headed to Reno - both bulk and liquids. It's definitely doable. The only other caveat [for anyone else interested in this thread] is that there are two adjacent tunnels on the route in the lower section (west) that require lights. It's not that you couldn't ride without, but you would be foolish to not be well lit in these, as the easterly of the two is quite long and on a climb going east. I think the canyon is an absolutely great ride and worth the hassles. I find the squeals and eerie noises that accompany the trains threading their way through the canyon an interesting auditory experience, but that may not be everyone's cup of tea.


Routes / Re: Has anyone ridden CA hwy 70 aka the Feather River hwy
« on: August 19, 2015, 12:26:46 pm »
Yep. Tough call . . It's got a hard climb on 4 lane road to Jarbo Gap but the descent to the canyon is pretty good. There are many sections of the road with no shoulder and there is moderate to heavy truck traffic. There are many good sections of the road. It is as scenic as it can get. Once you turn off to CA 89 north the traffic drops but the shoulders don't get any better. After Greenville, there's another long climb to get up to Lake Almanor. I think it's a good route, just depends on your stomach for a tight road. If you take your time and don't mind dodging traffic every now and then, it'll work. I think it's better than CA 32. BTW, the attached pic was taken during Thanksgiving Black Friday, which is a great time to ride the canyon without any traffic.

Routes / Re: Pacific Coast Route- Smokey??? Cell phone service?
« on: August 19, 2015, 12:09:30 am »
We were in Eureka over this past weekend. The smoke was particularly bad in Garberville on Sunday when we returned home to Santa Rosa. Who knows what it will be like in September by the time you're down here and then which way the wind might be blowing. You're going to have to check the weather service forecasts to get a sense of which way the wind is blowing. They do note excessive smokey conditions in their forecasts and if you follow their Twitter feed (@NWSBayArea) they will sometimes issue satellite photos of the smoke plumes.

As for cell service, it's spotty and it will depend on your carrier. But there is fair coverage and you're not likely to be more than 10 miles one way or the other out of cell range. YMMV.

Santa Rosa, CA

Routes / Cal Trans Pacific Coast Bike Route Survey for NW CA
« on: August 18, 2015, 12:06:35 am »
I'm including this text of the message as received in our Santa Rosa, CA bike forum (aka The Chatty List):

"Have you ridden the Pacific Coast Bicycle Route?  If so, Caltrans is looking for your input!  Please fill out the survey below:"
The Bicycle Coordinator for Caltrans, District 1 is asking... 
The Pacific Coast Bicycle Route (PCBR) runs through three of our four counties (Del Norte, Humboldt and Mendocino), and we’re looking for feedback from cyclists who have ridden any portion of it.  We developed a survey, both an online version (follow link below) and a paper copy that is similar to the online version.  ...  So far, this is a one-time effort this summer, that runs concurrently with our regular summer bike volume data collection that we do.

The survey will be available until September 30.  We would really appreciate your help in getting the word out to those who have ridden the PCBR!

Have you ridden the Pacific Coast Bicycle Route?  If so, Caltrans is looking for your input!  Please fill out the survey below:
While you're at it, one might want to check out their webpage for maps including plans and profiles. I had no idea Cal Trans has these in place for many of those roads.

Maybe someone who edits the ACA Bike Bits might want to throw out this link as well.

Keep the rubber side down,

Santa Rosa, CA

Routes / Re: Is the Lost Coast Alternate worth it ?
« on: May 28, 2015, 04:41:39 pm »
If you've got the legs, the alternate is worth it. Very little traffic, gorgeous coastal views. Camping is available at the county park and Albee Creek SP. Supplies at Petrolia. Get real close to one of the most seismically active spots in the continental US - the Mendocino Triple junction is just off the coast. It has far more climbing (some of it very steep at 16-20%) than the inland 101 route, but more remote. The route is part of the Tour of the Unknown Coast in May. Disclaimer - i have ridden portions of it but not as part of a loaded tour - I just live in the area and have traveled it. Probably will add a day or two to your time, depending on how much you linger. You will still get plenty of miles riding Avenue of the Giants south.


California / Re: Cycle touring in Napa and Sonoma
« on: May 26, 2015, 03:52:35 pm »
Other than Pleasure Cove, no. Might be worth a try though I suspect it is mostly boaters camping. Try giving them a call to see how amenable they are to touring cyclists.

California / Re: Cycle touring in Napa and Sonoma
« on: May 18, 2015, 05:34:11 pm »
No worries. Lake Berryesa is a good route, just watch for the fast traffic with narrow shoulder. Pope-Chiles Valley is wonderful. Bothe-Napa is a good choice for an overnight. Holler if you need anything else.



California / Re: Cycle touring in Napa and Sonoma
« on: May 15, 2015, 03:31:02 pm »
Hi Craig - many thanks for the signposting: I read those with interest - nothing like someone who knows the area well. I am still in a quandry however, as I was really hoping to 'join the dots' as you put it so well with campgrouds just waiting for me to pitch up at having dawdled my way thru some beautiful countryside and wineries. I'll keep looking. I guess wild camping is not such a good idea?

That would be correct - not a good idea. Not that it couldn't be done, just be careful.

I have another idea too: as I will be near Olympia and travelling to Portland potentially to catch a train to Davis CA, why not fly into Sonoma from Portland and then have the pick of the Sonoma and Napa valleys to the South with the wind behind me before hitting the coast and SF? I could then do some of your recommended route in reverse potentially.

my absolute ideal would be to stay on a winery - and wondered (possibly in a demented fashion) if wineries allow itinerant campers? Especially if said visitor is obviously an innocent Brit abroad? Anyway - if you have any further thoughts do let me know! Everything is appreciated.

Many thanks, Hugh

I'm afraid that itinerant camping in the glitzy wineries of Sonoma and Napa is a demented idea. Best if you can find either a county park or one of the state parks, and there are few if any that offer camping within the 'valleys'. One option may be the Alexander Valley RV Park and Campground at 2170 Alexander Valley Road, Healdsburg. One of these days I will put together a touring cyclist guide to this area. Got enough folks asking questions (that I keep answering) that I'm sure it would be a great resource.

California / Re: Cycle touring in Napa and Sonoma
« on: May 12, 2015, 03:46:35 pm »
Take a look at some of the threads three or four posts before yours. You should get some good ideas.


I will second what Johnsondasw has noted. Rode this area in 2009, on many of the same routes. Easy to restock near Lake Quinault (between Forks and Hoquiam). Definitely take in the Grayland loop.


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