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I've decided to take the ferry from Seattle to Bremerton and follow the "Pacific Coast" route to a point just west of Anacortes. It looks like a nice ride (with the exception of down town Bremerton) with lots to see and some camp grounds along the way.Should be nice. On the ferry keep your eyes peeled in Rich Passage on the way to Bremerton. If you're lucky you'll see orcas + Bald Eagles (America's emblem) are to be seen thereabouts.
Your snap of the Washington Pass ascent reminds me of what I'm in for - Both fun and not so much fun.
OK, it seems that I have been EXTEMELY lucky during all my trips in the US.You certainly have. I took rain gear from Jasper to Portland last summer with blazing sun all the way and not a second of rain. The guidebooks did say you could get snow in June on the Icefields Parkway ( the name gives a hint). I didn't regret taking it, it's just the cost of safe touring IMO. I got hypothermia in the North Cascades when rain turned to sleet and my rain gear was defective (Gore Bike Wear actually replaced it) Never again
As to just making changes because the machinery is worn out, note that Shimano still makes both square taper and Octalink bottom bracketrs despite the fact that the vast majority of the OEM market has made them obsolete.This reminds me of he Bob Newhart skit about General Chariots board meeting. "Do these holes in the chariot sides serve any purpose?" Someone has the temerity to ask. "Yes they serve a purpose: they keep us employed next year" the CEO replies.
It's an outrageous lie that square taper bb's are no longer available, even from Shimano. Bikes stores that tell you this are quite literally ripping you off. They should be held to account.Good point about the UK conditions. Actually it wasn't the BBs but the square taper cranks the man said were unavailable. Because the originals were so old and beat up I was worried about them breaking so I asked him to put new cranks on as well. Thanks for the reassurance Ron. It seems like I'll be OK this year with the Hollowtechs but I don't suppose I'll get 50,000 out of them! I'm rather attracted to the Hope BB not only is it good kit but they are made in a village, Barnoldswick*, near where I grew up in Yorkshire. Hey ho perhaps it's time I got a new bike. You could call the one I've got now The Bike of Theseus.
Just Google UN55 (the Shimano bb at the most reasonable quality/price point for touring bikes) and you'll find literally hundreds of offerings.
However I have toured many thousands of kilometers on a Hollowtech bb also, with no issues at all.
It is posible that users who ride a lot in wet, muddy UK conditions would experience more issues, but then they probably have more issues even with square taper bb's.
Early failures on Hollowtech II bottom brackets can be caused by poorly faced, out-of-alignment bottom bracket shells. If those reporting the early failures have badly aligned frames, it would explain a lot as no bearing will tolerate much of that.Thank you Dave that makes sense.
Because questions had been raised as to Hollowtech durability I came here to get the experience of people who have actually done some touring with these things. Yes, judging by the tone of the only responses I got it was a waste of timeNo I have no personal proof and I didn't come to that conclusion, other people did. As for personal proof, of course not, that's why I've raised this question. Check the link to the CTC website. In particular TrevA who says I got sick of replacing the bearings on the Hollowtech every 2-3000 miles. The general opinion there is that Hollowtech BBs don't last as long as STs. Russ I've as much reason for taking TrevA at his word as I have for taking you at your word.
Why are you wasting the time asking these questions? You don't want to believe this other person you cite on the other forum, and you don't want to believe my opposite opinion. I suggest you resolve this conflict by flipping a coin. Heads this bottom bracket/crank, tails the other.
Curious how you came to this conclusion that "ST BBs last much much longer than Hollowtech." Do you have any actual personal proof? Or are you just making up stuff off the top of your head? I am aware most science and rebuttals of science are done this way now days. Testing, proof, observation is so out of date.No I have no personal proof and I didn't come to that conclusion, other people did. As for personal proof, of course not, that's why I've raised this question. Check the link to the CTC website. In particular TrevA who says I got sick of replacing the bearings on the Hollowtech every 2-3000 miles. The general opinion there is that Hollowtech BBs don't last as long as STs. Russ I've as much reason for taking TrevA at his word as I have for taking you at your word.
I don't know who told you about 2,000 mile failures but that seems absurd unless they criminally abused their bikes.Again, check the link.