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General Discussion / Re: Washington, DC to Atlanta, GA
« on: Today at 01:53:47 pm »
The Atlantic Coast route has a D.C. connection and passes through Statesboro, GA. A quick check of Google Maps bike directions shows that Statesboro to Atlanta is about 200 miles.

Once you get a general route idea you can search for campgrounds and/or motels using Google Maps. For example, for the first day, pick a point that's about a day's ride (based on what you think you can handle mileage-wise) from D.C. and, in Google maps, search for "campgrounds near [name of town]." If nothing comes up, pan out to widen the search area. Check any state parks which may show on the search results to see if they have camping. You can do the same with restaurants and grocery stores.
Fine tune your route based on services you locate. I find this method works pretty well.

Thank you for the response. Will I be able to input such a customized route into an 800 series or touring series bike mounted Garmin? I'm not sure if you have any experience with those and how to go about that? Can a customized route be uploaded to the Garmin through website?

Sorry. I use the "Garmin" I was born with and paper maps and/or cue sheets.

General Discussion / Re: Can I rent or buy a bike?
« on: January 19, 2015, 10:56:31 am »
It doesn't seem to make sense to pay for shipping NY to Florida when it close to exceeds the value of the bike.

Another shipping option is

The philanthropy issue aside, buying a bike and donating after the tour seems to make little economic sense.

U.S. 283 south from U.S. 24 would take you to WaKeeny. If you were to get on U.S. 40 at that point you would be on I-70 since they are combined in that area. (U.S. 40 joins I-70 further west at Oakley.) There is Old Rte. 40 east from WaKeeney that turns into SR 147 and then E. 10th through Ellis before turning back into Old Rte. 40. into Hays. It continues east of Hays, roughly paralleling U.S. 40/I-70. East of Hays you can see the road on Google Street View. At Ellsworth it appears to be renamed Avenue J/SR 140 to Salina, where it becomes E. Old Rte. 40 and then Old Rte. 40 again. Google suggests it goes as far as Junction City. From what you can see on Street View, it appears to be mostly a narrow road with no shoulder but light traffic.

Routes / Re: Cycling through Zion National Park
« on: January 14, 2015, 10:57:45 am »

If you run your cursor along the red line on the map it will coordinate your location with the profile at the bottom and give you grade information. According to the map, there are some really nasty grades on those spikes before mile 20. The ruling grade appears to be 28.5%, and there are other sjort stretches where grade is 20% or higher. But it's all very short.

Having been through the tunnel a couple times I don't recall anything like a 20% let alone 28% grade in the tunnels.

Those spikes are not in the tunnel. As I noted, the map I created is for a much longer stretch.

I'm working on alternative routing in case this proves to be a problem. This would put me on country roads through small towns, but in Pennsylvania and Maryland instead of Kentucky and Missouri.

If you are not set on starting in D.C. or can get yourself up to it, you might consider signed PA Bike Route S to get around the C&0:

Heading west, Route S joins the GAP at Rockwood, PA. However, you can take U.S. 220 from Bedford, PA to Cumberland, MD if you want to pick up the GAP from the beginning. I did the reverse when I rode from PGH to Philly in 2013. I picked up U.S. 220 north of Cumberland by following smaller roads out of town. The road has a decent shoulder and traffic was not that heavy on a Monday afternoon. Let me know if you want the exact routing between Bedford and Cumberland. Personally, I found the portion of the GAP between Rockwood and Cumberland to be the most interesting so I wouldn't miss that portion if possible.

Also, if you pick up Route S anywhere east of Hustontown, PA and have a strong from light or headlamp you can take an easy detour from the route and ride a stretch of the abandoned portion of the PA Turnpike. Very neat ride (It was used in the filming of "The Road" starring Viggo Mortensen), but there are two long tunnels that are not lit, hence the need for a good light. At the western end of the rideable portion you will find yourself back on Route S at Breezewood, PA.

$20? Geeze. On the GAP I stayed at the private Husky Haven Campground in Rockwood. Porta-potties, picnic table and free, sheltered firewood at every site. While there is no running water on site, campers may use the guest house across the river in town, where there is an ample supply of gallon milk jugs for water to bring back to the campground. (The owner returns the jugs after you leave.) Use of the bath houses and the common ammenities of the guest house (e.g., pool table, bike washing area) are included in the fee, which was only $10.

Routes / Re: Cycling through Zion National Park
« on: January 13, 2015, 08:51:26 am »
The tunnel is only 1.1 miles long, so there is your distance figure.

Here is a map of UT 9 from the junction with U.S. 89 to La Verkin:

If you run your cursor along the red line on the map it will coordinate your location with the profile at the bottom and give you grade information. According to the map, there are some really nasty grades on those spikes before mile 20. The ruling grade appears to be 28.5%, and there are other sjort stretches where grade is 20% or higher. But it's all very short.

Routes / Re: Missoula to Ovando, G-town Lake, Wisdom
« on: January 10, 2015, 09:13:00 am »
Most of these are Montana Fishing Access Sites (FAS) - some free, some with a fee.
FAS camping is low-intensity and some of the nicest to be found in the West.

+1. Many years ago I camped at the FAS outside of downtown Ennis. Nice setting and quiet with a great pump for water.

Routes / Re: Missoula to Ovando, G-town Lake, Wisdom
« on: January 09, 2015, 01:46:50 pm »
If you provide the route details I might be able to give you some guidance and/or suggest alternatives.

In advance of that....

Once you are up on the Georgetown Lake plateau, the terrain of MT 1 is pretty level until you get a bit east of Silver Lake. From there, it's basically all down hill to Anaconda. The grade is steepest when you start descending and levels out the closer you get to Anaconda. I have done this portion in the opposite direction twice. Last time was June of last year. I had a slight to moderate headwind both times. The shoulder along Georgetown Lake was narrow in most place and was also a bit chewed up in spots. The further south, the better the shoulder. I rode this on weekdays in late June/early July and the trafffic was pretty minimal. There are some U.S.F.S. campgrounds in the lake area. If you seach Google maps for "Campgrounds near georgetown lake, anaconda, MT" they will show up. The only commerical place I saw between the lake and Anaconda was a marina with a deli. As you are descending you will pass a road that dives down to your right just before a large, reddish brown sign relating the story of a gold strike in the area. Just down that road there is a spring outlet with plumbing for water. It's close enough to the highway that you can walk to it. Came in handy the first time when the day was quite warm.

Anaconda has plenty of places to eat and an Albertson's grocery store next to a pharmacy. As for camping, there is this place:

Wisdom is a very small town. There is a small grocery store that's open until around 5 p.m. or 6 p.m. Selection is somewhat limited. There is no commercial campground, but outside of town on MT 43 there is an Americon Legion or something park where you can camp. Make sure you have bug spray, at least in June. All three times I stayed or passed through there the place was teaming with mosquitoes, hence the screened in shelter at the park. The one time I camped there I pitched my tent inside it. The Nez Perce Motel in town is another option. The Crossings at Fetty's has good food and adult beverages. There is also a dive-looking bar in town.

I might be able to provide more assistance once I see your route plan. For example, if you are going to pass through Philipsburg I have spent two nights there during two different tours. And if you want to add some miles/days, you could ride the Pioneer Mountians Scenic Byway and get to Wisdom from Anaconda the long way through Jackson with a stop at Elkhorn Hot Springs.

Routes / Re: New York - Virgina Beach
« on: January 07, 2015, 10:10:54 am »
Despite the dense population New Jersey, my home state, is a fine bicycling state.

I love riding in many parts of NJ, especially Hunterdon, Warren and Sussex Counties. And every year I usually do a couple of overnighters from Philly to Belleplain State Forest in Woodbine, taking the PATCO train to Lindenwold to avoid the Camden and Cherry Hill areas.

General Discussion / Re: Help with: From Jasper to ??
« on: January 06, 2015, 10:57:48 am »
I have had good luck with interstate and intrastate one-ways from Avis, but it appears their Jasper agency does not allow one-ways to the states.

If you cannot find a inter-country, one-way rental or one that's affordable, consider having your mate's spouse rent at the ride's destination (e.g., FCA airport) drive the 425 miles to Jasper and then drive back to the destination.

General Discussion / Re: Travel Insurance
« on: January 06, 2015, 10:13:42 am »
That's why it is important to read the fine print before you purchase. I am sure there are disclosure requirements.

Routes / Re: Rt. 2 across North Dakota
« on: December 29, 2014, 09:59:27 am »
I understand most of the oil work is in the western part of the state so I'm thinking of riding to Minot ND the head north and back south just before Mt. border or after and landing in Culbertson Mt.

Maybe I am misunderstanding this, but heading back south just before the MT border would put you in the Williston area, which is the epicenter of ND oil activity. It's my understanding that that activity also extends into pats of eastern MT.

Are you aware that since 2009, ACA had rerouted the Northern Tier route in that general area to avoid oil-related traffic? See this, Sections 3 & 4:

Mid-Atlantic / Re: Pick-Up/Drop-Off Service in Maryland
« on: December 26, 2014, 03:14:15 pm »
On the official GAP web site there are links to shuttle services.

Another option in some cases is a one-way car rental. For example, I have ridden the Atlantic Coast Route from Port Jervis, NY to my home in Philly twice by renting cars one-way to Port Jervis. I have also taken two trips across PA to my home using rentals to get to the starting points.

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