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FYI...You should monitor the snow pack in OR. You might get shut out of McKenzie Pass. Sometimes it does not open until mid to late June and even July:

Why not take the TA/L&C option to Twin Bridges, MT and then continue on the L&C? You could take a short detour to Missoula and visit ACA's headquarters. The road between Dillon and Twin Bridges passes Beaverhead Rock. The Bike Camp in Twin Bridges is a great place to stay.

General Discussion / Re: Where next, US?
« on: August 28, 2015, 11:31:30 am »
Another smoke and fire dependent route recommendation.

Take train north to Seattle and east to Whitefish.  Then do the National Parks routes.  Since you are in the US, no better place to tour than Glacier and Yellowstone Parks.  Tourist season is winding down (after Labor Day) and the roads should be nice and quiet.

Heavily dependent. WA 20 sounds like it's out. Significant fire activity near Winthrop, Twisp, Okanogon and Omak, WA. If you look at the Winthrop KOA web site there is an alter noting that while the campground is open, portions of WA 20 east and west of the facility are closed.

There is also a fire near Chelan, WA. Also, one near John Day, OR, which I believe is on the TransAm route, has grown and could get bigger:;_ylt=AwrBT7cWfuBVV9IAbTlXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTEyODRjcmJxBGNvbG8DYmYxBHBvcwMxBHZ0aWQDQjAzNDFfMQRzZWMDc2M-

General Discussion / Re: Where next, US?
« on: August 27, 2015, 09:13:05 am »
Potential forest fire issues aside, maybe take the train north to Oregon and start on the TransAm route east, although it could still be crispy critter hot in central and eastern, OR. I would suggest the Northern Tier to somewhere like Minneapolis, but the route  passes through the heart of some areas of Washington state that I believe are burning.

Detailing tour travel plans home (e.g., If you have a to be back at a certain location to fly home) might produce more helpful suggestions.

General Discussion / Re: ACA Maps vs. Google Maps - Southern Tier
« on: August 23, 2015, 10:10:57 am »
Have you vetted the Google choice? Sometimes the bike directions option will route you on unpaved roads or "roads" that are not really roads at all.  The ACA maps also take into account the availability and frequency of services.

Yeah. A friend of mine is currently on Cycle Idaho or something like that. TA few days ago they stayed in Noxon and were supposed to ride MT 56 to Troy but that part of the route was scrubbed. They went straight to Sandpoint instead.

Routes / Re: Summit to NYC via GW Bridge
« on: August 20, 2015, 09:53:07 am »
Hi slinjersey,

Thank you for your comment. I will go to Summit using ACA's map, so I think it's OK.

I see the Google map, and GWB is used by BYP 1 and 9, which seems busy traffic. Are there shoulders or sidewalk for ped/bike on the GWB?

Sorry. Just saw this. The route we use to get to Hoboken is not suitable for weekday riding because it crosses a major on/off ramp of the NJ Turnpike and goes straight through the heart of the Port of Elizabeth & Newark. The truck traffic is dangerous. I don't even like to drive through the port when I go up there for work. If you do somehow make it to Hoboken on a weekday you can catch a ferry from the back of the NJT train station. No need to go north to 14th St.

General Discussion / Re: 12 days - NY to Norfolk
« on: August 20, 2015, 09:46:26 am »
Yeah. If you look at Trip Advisor there are some bad reviews. Many of those had reviews sound like they came from people who were expecting to be camped in the shadow of Devil's Tower or among the trees of some National Forest. Indeed, one reviewer complained about not being able to sit outside the RV in the evening like they were expecting to have a campfire and roast marshmallows. It's Jersey City, for the love of Pete! Another interesting review complained about having to walk 1.5 miles to the ferry. Yep. No golf carts to take you to the campground office for the evening ice cream social. My walk to work is farther than that each way. Two weeks from Saturday we will drop a car off in Brooklyn Heights, walk nearly 2 miles to Red Hook for lunch and then to the Ikea ferry dock for a ride to Manhattan. Got to love a city where Ikea has its own ferry service.

General Discussion / Re: 12 days - NY to Norfolk
« on: August 19, 2015, 10:36:23 am »
If you want to visit NYC and camp, there is a campground in Newark,  New Jersey just outside New York.
The park is essentially a parking lot for RVs but they have a small grass area by the showers where you can put up a tent. They charge $50 a night for a tent with up to 4 people. They are about a 5 minute walk away from the PATH train which runs every 15 minutes to the centre of Manhattan. It's not a great place to stay, but it is cheap and we'll located.

Wow!  Thanks for sharing that information.  I know exactly where the Grove St. PATH stop is. Every year our club does a ride from New Hope to Brooklyn. We come east on Montgomery and then make a left on Barrow, which is one block west of Grove. The area inland from the water has undergone an incredible transformation over the years. Riding north on Barrow we would see more and more building rehabs being performed every year. The place is also close to the light rail line. You can ride to the Hoboken train station/ferry terminal and take the ferry to several places NYC on weekdays, although you have to go to 14th St. for the ferry on the weekends. That's how our ride gets to Manhattan.

I have said to my GF more than once that an urban campground might fly in Philadelphia. Then I would say to myself "Not enough people would go for something like that." Perhaps I have been wrong all these years.

General Discussion / Re: Atlantic Coast Trail Question?
« on: August 12, 2015, 01:37:20 pm »
Aug-Sept brings the highest possibility that a hurricane will affect your trip

Heh. How could I forget about that? I completed ACA's Northern Tier route in late August of '99. After a few days of rest, I started riding south along the Atlantic Coast route to my home in Philly. Before I reached the NJ border hurricane Floyd moved through.  I had to ride a few miles in a torrential downpour and then hole up in a motel. The upside is that the next day was gorgeous, and I had the roads though the DWG to myself.

General Discussion / Re: Atlantic Coast Trail Question?
« on: August 12, 2015, 08:23:37 am »
Well...It's pretty much mid-August now. The one concern I would have about that start date that far south is that the farther you go beyond Labor Day the greater the chance that some campgrounds up north will start closing for the season. I don't know how far up in NY you plan to go before heading west to MI, but if you are planning to ride through the Adirondacks, campground closures might be a real possibility. Also, it's not unheard of to have cold temps and even snow up there in September. When I rode through there during my Northern Tier trip we had a few 40 degree nights in mid-August. Even mid-October in the Delaware Water Gap in New Jersey can be cold at night.  A few years ago I did an organized event up there.  When we left the hotel for the 8:00 a.m. start it was a few degrees above the freezing mark.

Another vote for a warm hat. When I did my first tour (Northern Tier) I had never camped. I asked my friend who had done some touring what she thought I might miss the most if I did not bring it. She said a good flashlight and a warm hat. She was right. We hit sub-freezing temperatures during the first week. One morning during the second week it snowed a bit during breakfast.

General Discussion / Re: Getting home from Yorktown in Sept.
« on: August 10, 2015, 09:06:46 am »

Guess I'll just call bike shops when I get there. It's good to know that most will do this.

I recommend picking one at some point and making an appointment once your arrival date becomes clearer. I have shipped using shops and have had to wait up to a week even with making an appointment far in advance.

Also, you should check out I have had two good experiences with them. Shipped from Philly to Rapid City, SD in June. CrateWorks case with a wildly overestimated total weight of case, bike and racks at 60 lbs. was something like $47 (including $5 surcharge for pick up at a local bike shop) for 4-day shipping. Philly to Missoula last year was $71.

General Discussion / Re: Atlantic Coast Trail Question?
« on: August 10, 2015, 08:59:28 am »
When is this trip planned for? In mid-summer you can easily get flows out of the SE or SW, which would provide a general tailwind. Of course, such flows usually bring hot, nasty weather. In the end, I don't think wind will be much of a major factor on the PA, NJ and NY portions.

Send me a PM if you want some info. on part of that stretch. I have ridden between Port Jervis, NY and Philly a number of times.

Gear Talk / Re: Gearing for Touring Bike Followup
« on: July 31, 2015, 09:00:31 am »
I have 52/11 and very often wish I had a higher gear, and I have never raced.
My problem with the excessive use of 11T cogs is that you give up a far more useful interior cog to get it.

+1. I had a new road bike built this spring. DA9000. I wanted a cassette with 28t on the low end. The choice was between 11x28 and 12x28. I went with the latter for the more useful interior cog. If I get dropped on a flat road with a massive tail wind, so be it.

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