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General Discussion / Re: Banff to San Francisco
« on: October 17, 2011, 04:10:12 pm »
Okay, so I now realize that my earlier speed projectioin was a little high, I completely forgot about the weight. I am planning to go atleast 80 kilometres a day increasing to 100 as the trip progresses. In reference to the Glacier Park, there is another route from Baynes Lake, west of the Park which I could take as it could be closed.

Are you talking about coming down PR 93, crossing at Roosville and heading south through Eureka to Whitefish?  If so, you will probably hit cold/wet weather if you start your trip in April. I have ridden the stretch between Eureka and Whitefish three times. The first two times ('99, '00, north to south) were cool and wet in the second week of June.  In '09 (south to north) I got rain and it was still a bit on the chilly side in the third week of June. Circled through Canada--Sparwood, Pincher Creek and Waterton Village. Except for Eureka to Sparwood, which was nice, we had rain at some point the other days. Picher Creek to Waterton was downright wintry, with snow falling on the mountains. Again, this was in the third week of June.  And Logan Pass in Glacier was still closed when we got to St. Mary.

I would definitely start later if at all possible.

General Discussion / Re: Whitefish, MT lodging
« on: October 17, 2011, 03:48:24 pm »
Too bad the Bunk House Inn and Hostel didn't make it. Stayed there in '99 and '00. The owners were very nice.

Yeah, Whitefish could definitely use a hostel! The closest are the two hostels in East Glacier, sixty miles to the east and over the Divide. Seems like Whitefish/West Glacier would be a good spot.

When we passed through Whitefish in June on our tour, our Warmshowers host was overwhelmed by the amount of requests he was getting.

You would think, especially with the ski area outside of town. There actually used to be two. The Bunk House Inn and Non-Hostile Hostel. Perhaps there is no longer a large enough budget travel market.

General Discussion / Re: Whitefish, MT lodging
« on: October 13, 2011, 01:57:55 pm »
There is a state park right on the edge of town:

Haven't stayed there, but I have heard it's noisy due to a nearby rail yard.

but I hear it is noisy due to it's close proximity to the rail yard.

There is a KOA south of town on U.S. 93.  Maybe about 3 miles gradually up hill, then you descend down into the campground. We started a tour there in '09. Relatively quiet for a KOA and lots of trees. At the end of the tour, we stayed at the Best Western on U.S. 93 south of town. I believe it's near the Super 8. Not cheap, but not super expensive.  Then there is this place, which we saw but did not stay in:

Too bad the Bunk House Inn and Hostel didn't make it. Stayed there in '99 and '00. The owners were very nice.  I think they still live in the house next door.

We used Glacier Cyclery in '09. Great group of people. We even rented a trailer from them. Make sure you make an appointment well ahead of time.

Mid-Atlantic / Bull's Island Campground Closed for 2011
« on: October 07, 2011, 03:40:41 pm »
Unfortunately, the recent storms have forced an early closure of the campground at Bull's Island Recreation Area on the Atlantic Coast route about 7 miles north of Stockton, NJ. It would have normally closed for the season on October 31st.

The day use area, which is on higher ground and has bathrooms and water, remains open.  This is a fantastic place that I take a couple of three-day trips to every year. Let's hope it reopens on schedule next April.

General Discussion / Re: Light Touring
« on: October 06, 2011, 02:05:44 pm »
Sounds OK to me.  I would think that the panniers could be fairly small ones and would be inclined to look at ones intended to be used as front panniers.[/quote]

+1.  Maybe some Ortlieb Sport Packers as noted above. I have a pair. They hold a good amount without being obscenely large like their Bike Packer companions. And they are waterproof.

Routes / Re: Pacific Coast in January-February
« on: October 06, 2011, 01:53:21 pm »
Motels will usually be available. But be prepared for rain. Lots of it. And be aware that the usually reliable Pacific Coast tailwind (if you're going from north to south) become a headwind during storms, which usually come in one after the other all winter. That means with the rain, you'll also usually get headwinds. January-February are high rainfall months in a fairly high rainfall area.

If you don't believe him, see what ODOT has to say:

For Jan.-Mar.:  45 degrees, 12 inches of rain, winds from the SW

Not sure if the rainfall is cummulative for the 3 months or the average for each month.  I am thinking the former since since 3' of rain in three months seems like an awful lot.

Routes / Re: Sierra Cascades Section 5
« on: October 06, 2011, 01:43:58 pm »
Is there any reason why the southern section of Sierra Cascades took the "mountain" route instead of "hills and valleys"?

Because it's called the Sierra Cascades route?

Gear Talk / Re: Tour bike
« on: October 03, 2011, 10:05:14 am »

General Discussion / Re: hip pain
« on: September 30, 2011, 10:14:20 am »
I have a friend in her 60s who had her hip replaced maybe 4 years ago. She does a lot of riding, including hilly rides.

Routes / Re: Canada to Mexico
« on: September 28, 2011, 01:43:11 pm »
Oregon has an informative publication with a map for its portion:

Gear Talk / Re: BOB Trailer Ibex storage versus YAK
« on: September 27, 2011, 04:23:10 pm »
So, airlines don't charge you extra for oversized bags ?
According to United's site:,,52907,00.html
Any Baggage whose length+width+height is greater then 62 in will get charged for oversized baggage. It's bad enough they charge $35 for the first bag and $25 for the second, but if it's larger then 62in then they charge even more. I'm hoping to fit my bike in one and the BOB trailer in another. Has it been your experience that the 62 in restriction is not enforced by airlines ?

Maybe I am a little confused here. Unless United has changed its policy since I flew it back in June of this year, you are going to get charged more than the standrd baggage charge for a bike regardless of the size of the box.  If I remember correctly, the bike charge was $100/bike, which is why we shipped UPS.

If you look at BOB’s site, it seems doubtful that you can get the Yak in a 62” box. The cargo space alone shown as roughly 25”x16”x18”, or 59”. Add to that the non-removeable “fork” to which you secure the wheel, and you are over 62” by more than an inch or two.  (When new, the trailer is packed with the front “fork”, which I thought they used to call the yoke, reversed so it’s inside the cargo compartment and thus does not add to the dimensions of the box. The wheel, fender and flag can alo be placed inside the cargo portion.)

One last consideration:  According to the TSA people I have spoken with, if you fly with a stove, you risk having it confiscated even if there is no fuel involved. When we travel, we ship the stove and empty fuel bottle in either one of the bike boxes or the trailer box.

General Discussion / Re: Camp Coffee That Doesn't Suck
« on: September 27, 2011, 03:35:28 pm »
We take them on 2 or 3 days trips. I usually do not like Starbucks coffee, but Via is not half bad. Does the job for me. For anything longer, we bring a plastic French press mug that you can drink out of and ground La Columbe coffee.

Routes / Re: Ok, here's the deal...
« on: September 26, 2011, 04:37:05 pm »
I have a partner now that will be joining me for my cc tour next summer.  We have decided to dip our wheels in Long Beach, NY. We want to see the Statue of Liberty, Twin Towers Memorial, Niagra Falls and Times Square. All of these are within the same area, correct? Or are they too far apart from each other. I am totally not familiar with the NY area.

That's what Google Maps is for. Niagara Falls, NY is on the other end of the state from Manhattan. FYI, the Canadian side of the falls is much cooler. The Northern Tier route goes through it before coming back into NY at Buffalo. Also be advised that much of Times Square is closed to vehicular traffic.

You can see the Statue of Liberty from several places, including the Promenade in Brooklyn Heights. But, as noted, to visit you will have to take a ferry from either NY or NJ. I wonder whether they would allow bikes.

General Discussion / Re: Great Music For My Tour? Suggestions?
« on: September 19, 2011, 09:23:22 am »
OK everybody, let's keep our eyes on forum etiquette here. Discussion of risks, which ones your feel worth taking, and why: these are all fine. Comments about an individual's motives for writing, personal character, and the like are not fine. I have removed some of the latter in this thread.


Thanks, I guess.  Don't understand the anger.

Routes / Re: Atlantic Coast Route - so many questions, where to begin...
« on: September 19, 2011, 09:15:03 am »
After completing the Northern Tier in '99 I rode home to Philadelphia using the Atlantic Coast Route with one detour from Windsor Locks to New Haven and then back on route somewhere. Left Bar Harbor August 25th. Enjoyed that time of year immensley. There were still some crowds in ME, but it wasn't that bad.

Funny that you mention hurricanes. I had to take refuge from Floyd that year just north of Pt. Jervis, NY. Some towns in NJ were under water. And we all saw what Irene did. Let's hope that was a 100 year event.

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