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Routes / Re: South Idaho to Boulder,Co.
« on: June 20, 2011, 09:22:53 am »
OP:  If you want to find the least hilly route, familiarize yourself with one of the many bike route mapping sites like and  You can plot routes and see the elevation profiles.  While not 100% accurate because they tend to miss small elevation changes (IMO, is more acurate than, the profiles do give you and good idea of the climbing involved.

Here is a page from the OP's journal:

He got lucky.  Some property owners will not be so understanding in the end.

Routes / McKenzie Pass Status
« on: June 17, 2011, 11:29:07 am »
Came across this:

The internal link says it looks like sometime in July before it will be fully open to vehciles.

General Discussion / Re: Flying with Bicycle on Small Planes
« on: June 15, 2011, 09:47:01 am »
If you have good relationship with a LBS at home, try shipping through it.  It's possible that they get a lower, merchant rate.  Worked for us two years ago.

This morning I opened by Crateworks box for the first time since we got back from our trip two years ago.  Inside was an itemized receipt from Glacier Cyclery.  Shipping was $53/bike from Whitefish, MT to Philadelphia, PA.  My box is a total of 86.5 in.  Cheaper than the on line price I was quoted by UPS.  And much cheaper than the $200 Delta/NWA wanted.

General Discussion / Re: Flying with Bicycle on Small Planes
« on: June 14, 2011, 03:47:32 pm »
Ship it to a hotel or better yet a bicycle shop. If adjustments are needed, the bike will be ready to go.

+1.  We are shipping to a shop in Missoula tomorrow.  It wil reassemble and tune, for a price of course.

I have suggested this before:  If you have good relationship with a LBS at home, try shipping through it.  It's possible that they get a lower, merchant rate.  Worked for us two years ago.

General Discussion / Re: Nightly Accomodations & Bicycle Traffic
« on: June 13, 2011, 10:00:58 am »
Private campgrounds will have showers.  U.S.F.S. campground will proabbly not.  I stayed in one BLM campground on the Nothern Tier that actually had showers.  Some state parks will.  Some city parks will.  (Bring shower shoes like flip flops and some might be s little grungy.)  Sometimes you can shower at the city pool or, as noted, buy a shower from a gym, etc.

The AC maps idicate whether a campground is private, U.S.F.S., etc.  You will probably encounter more indoor lodging that you think you will.  If you are leaving in a little more than a month, why not buy the maps now so you can get an idea of what's available?

I did the section from Missoula to Fairplay, CO starting the 3rd week in June and mid-July.  I encountered at least a dozen people that I can remember, mostly going to W-E, but a few going E-W.  You seem to be starting later so maybe you will have more E-W riders.

Routes / Re: Border Safety concerns on Southern Tier
« on: June 10, 2011, 12:42:06 pm »
Steins is a good 60 miles from the Meixan border.

Routes / Re: Going to the Sun Road Status
« on: June 09, 2011, 01:07:39 pm »
Went west to east in '99.  Climbed the west side and came back down in '00.  In '09 we planned to go east to west but the pass was still closed the last week of June.  Had to ride all the way around the park in one day (about 100 miles) so we could ride up and back down the west side the following day.  The NPS opened the west side up to Logan Pass that day.  The entire road opened the following day. I will have to go back some day to climb the east side.

Routes / Re: Going to the Sun Road Status
« on: June 09, 2011, 07:55:13 am »
My pleasure.  What I neglected to mention is that the visitor center, the roof of which you can see sticking up through the snow, sits on a small hill above the road.  I guesstimate that it's base sits about 15-20' feet above the road surface.

Routes / Re: On Elk Pass Now
« on: June 09, 2011, 07:48:36 am »
Mind you I saw a picture from June 4 on Glacier Park-Going to the Sun Rd and it did look a bit un-rideable.

A bit is an understatement.  Logan Pass is covered in what looks to be about 20-25 feet of snow.

Routes / Going to the Sun Road Status
« on: June 08, 2011, 07:57:30 am »
An amazing photo taken a few days ago which should give you an idea of how much work they have ahead of them:

Routes / Re: From Bannff or Boulder or Portland To Helena MT...
« on: June 06, 2011, 11:25:09 am »
I'd pick a city that's easy/cheap to get you and your bike to.


Also, if you were to start in Portland and cross OR, keep in mind that it can get crispy critter hot in August east of the Cascades.

If you decide to start in Banff, I would not pass up the opportunity to ride at least the west sie of Going to the Sun Road in Glacier National Park.  You could then double back a bit, head south to Missoula then Hamilton, over Skalkaho Pass (much of the way unpaved, with narrow twists and turns near the summit and some scary looking dropoffs) to the Anaconda/Philipsburg area and then to Helena.  Looks like the latter part would require some I-15 riding.

Seattle up to the Northern Tier to Glacier and then south as noted above would also be a nice ride.

General Discussion / Re: Hit by uninsured motorist
« on: June 06, 2011, 10:57:59 am »
Be actively involved in any criminal end of the incident.  (Hopefully, the particular jurisdiction has a victims' advocacy office to help you.)  It's quite possible that the judge will order him to pay restitution for any losses that you can't recover from some other sources.

I work in an industry where vandalism is fairly common.  When the vandals are caught, we often get restitution imposed as part of the sentence.  Depending on many factors (including jail crowding), this kid may walk with probabtion and could be ordered to get a job (if he does not have one already) and to pay restitution as a condition of probabtion.  If restitution is offered, it may take years to fully recoup your losses, but it may send a message and provide you at least some personal satisfaction.

General Discussion / Re: bike on UNITED airlines
« on: June 06, 2011, 08:00:18 am »
Looks like $100 to me:,,53403,00.html

Coupons?  Doubt it.  Although let us all know if you find any.

You can check UPS and FedEx, but my first instincts tell me that they won't be much cheaper to HI since it would go by air instead of ground.

For the first day, plan a reasonable distance to ride and a place to stay the first night, and just get out the door.

+1  And when nothing goes horribly wrong, you will realize that it's not scary.  But if something does, learn from it and realize that its an anomaly.

If you sit around waiting for the nerves to stop, you will never get out the door.

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