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Routes / Re: Pacific Coast - starting in Bellingham or Seattle?
« on: June 04, 2010, 01:17:59 pm »
I'd start in Seattle.  If you need accomodations before starting, there is a new hostel there that looks even better than the old one, which was nice.  You can catch a ferry to Whitby Island I think it is, so you don't have to ride in the city much at all.  Kitsap Memorial State Park is on the water and is quite nice.  Fort Woden in Port Townsed, where some of "An Officer & A Gentleman" was filmed) is also a nice camping spot.

Routes / Re: cascade rail trail
« on: June 04, 2010, 01:04:27 pm »
However, before the middle of July, the weather is a crap shoot and the chances of it being clear enough to see the mountains are about 1 in 3 or less.

You ain't kiddin'.  When we stayed at Howard Miller it was late May.  We had no idea there were mountains around.  The clouds were so thick and low they obscured everything.  At one point the low clouds disappeared for a bit and we got to see what we were in the shaddows of.

Routes / Re: Strangest attractions along the TransAmerica Trail?
« on: June 02, 2010, 03:45:57 pm »
I do need to say, however, that not insulting these particular prisoners isn't exactly my first priority in life: the people confined in this institution are genuinely the worst of the worst (mass murderers, terrorists, one gentleman who was credibly accused of over a thousand counts of child molestation, and even the CFO of Enron), and I personally do not see a single reason why I should feel guilty about entertaining myself at their expense.

I guess everyone has their own turn ons.

Routes / Re: cascade rail trail
« on: June 02, 2010, 01:52:09 pm »
The Cascade trail is an almost level crushed rock rail-trail with a firm surface.  I haven't ridden it yet this year, but last fall it was in good shape.  That said, the South Skagit Highway isn't a bad road to ride on--decent paving and not too much traffic.  The west end of the Cascade Trail is on the east side of Sedro Woolley, about a quarter mile east of Hwy 9; look for the Country Store on the south side of Hwy 20--the trail starts behind the gas station next to it.  The east end of the trail is just north of Hwy 20 in Concrete.


Curious as to how they compare scenery-wise.  I have have done the S. Skagit Highway twice.  (Think it was before the trail existed.)  It was gorgeous.  No traffic at all when I was there in late May.  But boy did it rain both times.  Made the Adirondak shelters at Howard Miller Steelhead Park all the more sweet.

Routes / Re: Strangest attractions along the TransAmerica Trail?
« on: June 02, 2010, 01:44:27 pm »

  • In Florence CO, the TransAmerica Trail route passed by the ADX Florence supermax prison. I read the document on visiting procedures and didn't find anything which restricts visits from "friends," or any restriction on who is considered a "friend." So, I could pick some random prisoner who isn't anywhere close to their maximum of five visits a month and schedule a visit.

In addition to asking yourself whether something like that might be seem insulting or patronizing, you should read Section 16.  You must be on the inmate's approved visiting list.  Also note that Section 17(C) provides that visiting privileges will ordinarily be extended to "friends and associates" having a pre-confinement relationships with the inmate, and none of the exceptions would appear to apply to what you have in mind.

Sorry, but I believe this is one experience you should not pursue.

General Discussion / Re: Glacier National Park
« on: June 02, 2010, 01:21:59 pm »
Can't tell you, but a snowstorm moved through the park last week.  Web cam showed several inches at St. Mary and Apgar so there was probably more at higher elevations. With that said, the Inside N. Fork Rd. (Polebridge) is shown as open.

General Discussion / Re: Trans America Astroria, OR to Coburg, OR
« on: May 31, 2010, 02:39:19 pm »
TWC shows an average daily high in nearby Eugene of about 81, but I stayed there in '02 during Cycle Oregon and it was close to 90 during the second week in September.

Pacific Northwest / Re: Weather Conditions?
« on: May 27, 2010, 01:09:01 pm »
The route starts on the wet, west side of the Cascade mountains.  Currently, there is about 10' of snow still on the ground over Washington Pass, although the road is OK.  The east side of the mountains is desert dry.  Daytime highs of 90 degrees are common at the end of june, but remember that you still have several mountain passes to get over, so it will be cold at 6,000' in the mornings and evenings.  I strongly recommend good rain gear for the first few days ride--hypothermia is a real issue in these parts in this time of year.


Have done the western part of the NT (from Seattle to Glacier NP) twice and I could not agree more.  Cold, heavy rain on the S. Skagit Highway both times.  Got rained and snowed on climbing Rainy and Washington Passes both times.  Also got snowed on climbing Sherman Pass the first time.  While I was maybe a week and a half earlier than you, you might still encounter weather like that.  You can always mail stuff home later.

General Discussion / Re: Headwinds
« on: May 25, 2010, 04:14:58 pm »
Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but if my experience on the "High Line" (U.S. 2 across MT to Cut Bank) was typical, the prevailing winds will be in your face.  Some days it was strong.  Other days it wasn't.  You will also likely face a stiff headwind between McGranth, AB and Waterton Village.

Have you tried starting very early in the morning, stopping in a town when the wind gets really bad, and then continuing late in the afternoon when the wind often dies down some?  Traffic should also be calmer in the morning.  The one thing you have going for you is that you can do some relatively short days.  Culbertson to Wolf Point is about 55 miles. Another 52 to Glasgow.  From there it's a long day to Malta, but maybe you can shorten it if there is lodging in Saco.  Malta to Harlem is about 47 miles, and then it's 43 to Havre.

I feel your pain.  I spent days riding in Andalucia riding into headwinds that nearly reduced me to tears and blew me off the road.  And last year I learned to never again ask "It's only 35 miles.  How hard can it be?"  The wind between Pincher Creek, AB and Waterton Village slowed us to a crawl.  Good luck and keep your spirits up.  Things could change tomorow.

Routes / Re: Best Cross Country Route with Hotels ever 50-70 miles
« on: May 24, 2010, 10:13:45 am »
My modified Northern Tier route for credit card tour:....

You probably know this, but in case you don't, way advance reservations in and around Glacier are probably a good idea.  It's the park's centenial and they are expecting larger than normal crowds.  Also, check the road work schedule on the park's web site.  Finally, try to get at least some pie at the Park Cafe in St. Mary.

Does anyone know how available cannister fuel is on the ACA great parks route?  Or how long a cannister (or a bottle of gas) lasts?

As someone metioned, REI has a handout that includes burn times for various toves and fuel soruces.

To give you a practical frame of reference, during a tour last year in Montana and Canada, two us used an MSR Dragonfly with a 22 oz. fuel bottle.  We made coffee eight mornings, cooked 4 "involved" dinners (pasta cooked in one pot and meat and veggies sauteed and simmered in another), burned fuel to heat water to wash dishes and used fuel to start 3 campfires.  We had a good amount of fuel to spare.  And the Dragonfly is a prety fuel hungry stove.

And MSR "Super Fuel" (f/k/a Whitegas) is available in 32 oz. cans.  Other, no-name versions are as well.

Used a canister in Spain for two months.  I was always looking for replacements and ended up carrying several at a time because the type I was using were hard to find.

Routes / Re: Allegheny Mountains Loop?
« on: May 20, 2010, 09:17:28 am »
(despite it's sizable price tag)

Map of the route at your fingertips:  $14.75.  Information it contains:  priceless.

General Discussion / Re: Rocky Mountains questions
« on: May 19, 2010, 11:16:59 am »
3.- At the end of this trip, other friend and me are travelling to the Rocky Mountains National Park in Colorado, following the ACA routes. We hope to arrive to Pueblo or Poncha Springs, and will comeback to Salt Lake City Airport on August 21th. In Pueblo or Poncha Springs we probably will  take a bus (Greyhound?) for to return to the airport, it's possible to take a bus with bycicle? will we need bike's box?

According to this, bikes do not have to be boxed when riding Greyhoud:

Where in Spain do you live?  Ten years ago I spent two months cycling around Andalucia.  Had a blast.

General Discussion / Re: Airlines and bikes
« on: May 10, 2010, 09:44:25 am »
Delta?  I believe they also charge $300 for a bike, including a folding bike in a standard size suitcase.  There is a Facebook page devoted to boycotting Delta.

I would check with the Bicycle Touring Club of North Jersey,  They might be able to help you get out of NYC.  PA Bicycle Route Y starts/ends in Milford, PA, which is not too far from Port Jervis, NY.  That will take you very close to Erie.  You could branch off around Corry and get into town using your own route.  A less direct route is to stay on PA Route Y until it intersects with PA Route A.  Route A goes into Erie.

Here is the link to the PA bike route site:

This site is useful in finding commercial camping along the way:

I was thinking about dong Route Y this summer and found camping along the route in most places, but in a few places things were spread out.  The area is dotted with cheap motels that can help you avoid long days between campgrounds.

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