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General Discussion / Re: Fleece in July?
« on: July 11, 2011, 02:02:11 pm »
Mike -

You should expect low temps in Montana, Wyoming, and Colorado to be in the 40s - sometimes high 30s in August.  You could always mail the cool weather stuff via "General Delivery" to some place like Missoula that you are sure to visit and that you'll be there on a weekday (or Sat a.m.).  Then you can mail the stuff home from Pueblo.

Depending on your skin melanin, long sleeves and long pants can also be very nice in intense sun.  Also saves on the sunscreen bill and reduces the number of bugs that get stuck on your skin.

All good advice.
Just got back from riding the portion of the Trans Am between Missoula and the bottom of the east side of Big Hole Pass.  Was also in Twin Bridges.  Hit a warm patch and we still had two nights where it got down to 40 degrees.  In ’00 I had frost on my tent in Yellowstone in early July.  A flece could come in very handy.
Intense sun can also be a factor. I have an olive complexion and never use anything above 30 SPF back home in the east.  For this trip, I used my GF’s 90 SPF and still got a lot of color.

Hopefully, the skeeters will be gone when you get where we were.  Wisdom and Twin Bridges (as well as several other places we rode through in the state) were infested.  You have to climb a little lip several miles west of Wisdom before reaching town.  Forced us to hit “mosquito speed.” I looked at my GF’s butt and there had to be a dozen of them on her.  And they do bite through spandex.  Got to the grocery store in town.  Before I could get my money out of my pannier they were on my legs and arms.

General Discussion / Re: Just the Bear essentials
« on: July 11, 2011, 01:48:12 pm »
The only approved storage method in US National Parks(?) is a bear canister like above, which you just set on the ground.

Simply not true.  The NPS actually proivides bear boxes in places like Yellowstone and Glacier.  Used them in two campgrounds in the latter two years ago.  Another place that comes to mind in Colonial Creek Campground in the North Cascades.

General Discussion / Re: Map Case = No Confidence??
« on: July 11, 2011, 01:40:15 pm »
In my experience, pulling my map out of my map case and looking around in a confused manner almost immediately brought offers of help, and directions that got me where I needed to go.[/quote]

+1.  I have a hard time understanding the fear mentality that seems to be behind many posts these days.  On Saturday I got back from nine days of riding in southwest Montana with my 5' tall girlfriend.  (Kept my map strapped under the bungee cords that held sleeping bag to my front rack.)  We rode on several stretches of relatively remote dirt roads, including one 20 mile stretch where we saw vastly more cattle than vehicles.  Not once did I worry about Cletus jumping out of his pickup and forcing me to squel like a pig.  And when people would ask us where we were headed I didn't feel the need to lie for fear that they would be laying in wait around the first hairpin turn in the road.

General Discussion / Re: Crossing the Cascades
« on: June 27, 2011, 09:14:44 am »
I started the L&C on 8/1 and had good weather, although a little too hot in eastern OR.

+1 Eastern and central OR can be very hot that time of year.  I rode through there on Cycle Oregon the second week of September.  John Day to Mitchell and Mitchell to Sisters were crispy critter hot.

General Discussion / Re: MultiVitamin and Water storage
« on: June 22, 2011, 04:40:32 pm »
Since you won't need the extra water carrying capacity for the entire trip, perhaps some 2L soda bottles?  You can then recycle them when they are no longer needed.

Routes / Re: South Idaho to Boulder,Co.
« on: June 20, 2011, 09:22:53 am »
OP:  If you want to find the least hilly route, familiarize yourself with one of the many bike route mapping sites like and  You can plot routes and see the elevation profiles.  While not 100% accurate because they tend to miss small elevation changes (IMO, is more acurate than, the profiles do give you and good idea of the climbing involved.

Here is a page from the OP's journal:

He got lucky.  Some property owners will not be so understanding in the end.

Routes / McKenzie Pass Status
« on: June 17, 2011, 11:29:07 am »
Came across this:

The internal link says it looks like sometime in July before it will be fully open to vehciles.

General Discussion / Re: Flying with Bicycle on Small Planes
« on: June 15, 2011, 09:47:01 am »
If you have good relationship with a LBS at home, try shipping through it.  It's possible that they get a lower, merchant rate.  Worked for us two years ago.

This morning I opened by Crateworks box for the first time since we got back from our trip two years ago.  Inside was an itemized receipt from Glacier Cyclery.  Shipping was $53/bike from Whitefish, MT to Philadelphia, PA.  My box is a total of 86.5 in.  Cheaper than the on line price I was quoted by UPS.  And much cheaper than the $200 Delta/NWA wanted.

General Discussion / Re: Flying with Bicycle on Small Planes
« on: June 14, 2011, 03:47:32 pm »
Ship it to a hotel or better yet a bicycle shop. If adjustments are needed, the bike will be ready to go.

+1.  We are shipping to a shop in Missoula tomorrow.  It wil reassemble and tune, for a price of course.

I have suggested this before:  If you have good relationship with a LBS at home, try shipping through it.  It's possible that they get a lower, merchant rate.  Worked for us two years ago.

General Discussion / Re: Nightly Accomodations & Bicycle Traffic
« on: June 13, 2011, 10:00:58 am »
Private campgrounds will have showers.  U.S.F.S. campground will proabbly not.  I stayed in one BLM campground on the Nothern Tier that actually had showers.  Some state parks will.  Some city parks will.  (Bring shower shoes like flip flops and some might be s little grungy.)  Sometimes you can shower at the city pool or, as noted, buy a shower from a gym, etc.

The AC maps idicate whether a campground is private, U.S.F.S., etc.  You will probably encounter more indoor lodging that you think you will.  If you are leaving in a little more than a month, why not buy the maps now so you can get an idea of what's available?

I did the section from Missoula to Fairplay, CO starting the 3rd week in June and mid-July.  I encountered at least a dozen people that I can remember, mostly going to W-E, but a few going E-W.  You seem to be starting later so maybe you will have more E-W riders.

Routes / Re: Border Safety concerns on Southern Tier
« on: June 10, 2011, 12:42:06 pm »
Steins is a good 60 miles from the Meixan border.

Routes / Re: Going to the Sun Road Status
« on: June 09, 2011, 01:07:39 pm »
Went west to east in '99.  Climbed the west side and came back down in '00.  In '09 we planned to go east to west but the pass was still closed the last week of June.  Had to ride all the way around the park in one day (about 100 miles) so we could ride up and back down the west side the following day.  The NPS opened the west side up to Logan Pass that day.  The entire road opened the following day. I will have to go back some day to climb the east side.

Routes / Re: Going to the Sun Road Status
« on: June 09, 2011, 07:55:13 am »
My pleasure.  What I neglected to mention is that the visitor center, the roof of which you can see sticking up through the snow, sits on a small hill above the road.  I guesstimate that it's base sits about 15-20' feet above the road surface.

Routes / Re: On Elk Pass Now
« on: June 09, 2011, 07:48:36 am »
Mind you I saw a picture from June 4 on Glacier Park-Going to the Sun Rd and it did look a bit un-rideable.

A bit is an understatement.  Logan Pass is covered in what looks to be about 20-25 feet of snow.

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