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General Discussion / Re: importance of componentry
« on: August 28, 2014, 09:54:53 pm »
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Also, those "Dura Ace" barends are intended more for time trial bikes aero bars than for touring use.  Again, Dura Ace isn't bought by tourists.

We have three touring bikes in the house with Shimano SL-BS77 Dura-Ace 7700 Bar End Shifters (9 speed), one of which just got upgraded to 9 speed this year.  Bruce Gordon used them on his bikes for years, I don't know what he is using currently.  The shifters work very well on our touring bikes (22-32-44, 11-32).  I don't have any experience with the 10 speed version.
You are not the main market for Shimano's 9 and 10-speed barends.  Yes they work fine and are suitable for your use but if it had to rely on the touring market, Shimano would have dropped them long ago.

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General Discussion / Re: importance of componentry
« on: August 28, 2014, 05:44:28 pm »
Unfortunately Shimano no longer makes triples, but they do make Dura Ace bar end (showing Dura Ace is not only race componentry). So to me that suggests the the newer gear with thinner chains was not up to touring (hopefully just yet), and they will some day. Maybe just a pipe dream, but I may wish to buy another touring bike and sure would like Dura Ace.
Shimano does indeed make triples, they just don't make them in groups their experiences tells them don't sell to tourists.   The 105 FC-5703 is a triple and has a 74 mm BCD for the granny ring so it will take down to a 24T chainring and several of their MTB and Trekking cranks are available as suitable triples.  Also, those "Dura Ace" barends are intended more for time trial bikes aero bars than for touring use.  Again, Dura Ace isn't bought by tourists.


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Gear Talk / Re: trikes
« on: August 28, 2014, 01:02:29 pm »
Then there are many, many designs of standard upright trikes,which have been a part of the cycling world for 125 years now.  They sit about the same height as standard upright bicycles.
Yes, I've seen them as parts getters in industrial plants and for shopping transportation in retirement communities but i've never seen on on the road.  A combination of weight and odd handling and limited cornering ability are major disadvantages. 

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Gear Talk / Re: LKLM & Krangear
« on: August 27, 2014, 04:11:32 pm »
As mentioned, my first choice is the Surly...and although they have their frames manufactured in Taiwan, I would also like to do business with a NA outfit if possible...
Wait a minute. This whole thread started when you asked about a frame made in China and sold directly from Chinese based supplier and then you say the above?  Excuses me if I'm puzzled. 

Surly is owned and sold by QBP, a US based company, so if you want to deal with a NA based company that's about as close as it gets.

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Gear Talk / Re: LKLM & Krangear
« on: August 26, 2014, 08:50:49 am »
I've seen several of those direct Chinese suppliers web sites.  Most offer carbon racing  frames but I guess some  have steel too.  Generally you take your chances with quality, delivery and getting any potential problems fixed.  They may be fine and reliable but you don't know that until you've sent your money and, if they are not, you have little recourse  Also, know that you will have to pay shipping costs and import duties so the web site posted cost is not the total. 

I looked at their web site and couldn't find any specifics such as geometry, weight, even prices, and knowing about hackers, I wasn't going to poke around too much.  Do you feel lucky?


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Gear Talk / Re: LKLM & Krangear
« on: August 25, 2014, 09:41:45 pm »
Have you considered the Surly LHT or Cross Check?  Both are available as frames/forks for under $500 if you shop around and they are a known and respected commodity.

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General Discussion / Re: Busiest ACA or other trail intersection?
« on: August 25, 2014, 10:03:22 am »
I believe Gillian has since had a kind of falling out with the cycling community though and no longer hosts cyclists.
You might want to contact Gillian and find out what happened.  Perhaps your idea isn't as idyllic as you imagine.

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General Discussion / Re: Sour clothing - after washing!
« on: August 18, 2014, 12:16:55 pm »
Well, putting damp clothes in a plastic bag for up to three days certainly made for a good mold/mildew growing environment.  If the colors permit, soak them in bleach and wash them again.

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Your first job is to locate the house or condo you want to rent. Then, perhaps a route from Columbus to there can be recommended.  Contact the KY or TN visitors bureaus and ask for recommendations for places you want to consider.

As to getting to KY from Columbus, the annual TOSRV route from Columbus to Portsmouth, Ohio is well known and very bicycle friendly.  From there the US23 bridge crosses the Ohio river into KY and you can plan from there.

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Gear Talk / Re: trikes
« on: August 08, 2014, 08:09:42 am »
This was my first Bon Ton and I was very pleased by the overnight locations, the food was great and the road marking were generally very good with a couple of minor glitches.  I've ridden a bunch of GOBAs in Ohio, Bike Virginia and DALMAC last year and one RAGBRAI decades ago and this Bon Ton was one of the top experiences. 

Did you ride the "long route" on Tuesday from Keuka College around Keuka Lake?  That was a TOUGH last 8 miles.

I also saw the guy on the trike buzzing around the various overnights too.  I agree he seemed to love to show it off.

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Gear Talk / Re: trikes
« on: August 07, 2014, 12:06:01 pm »
Did the Bon Ton Roulet last month.

Well, well. so did I.  Great week wasn't it?  And I also saw the same trike but I believe I saw a couple of others too.

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Gear Talk / Re: trikes
« on: August 06, 2014, 09:24:27 pm »
Never having ridden one but have seen a bunch in use, I disagree that trikes are as high as a  standard recumbent.  Most two-wheel recumbents have at least one 700c wheel or, if smaller wheels, they are under the rider, raising them somewhat.  The trikes I've seen all have small wheels, 20" or less, and the rider is positioned down below the wheel tops so is noticeably lower than on a recumbent.

Are they less visible and less safe?  I don't know and their "unusualness" does make them more likely to be noticed so that is a plus.

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General Discussion / Re: Cardboard Box for Bike as Checked Baggage
« on: August 05, 2014, 10:16:21 am »
  Whatever you do don't take the derailer off as it's a bitch getting it back on. 
I used to have an S&S coupled Co-Motion single bike and I had to unthread  the rear derailleur to make it fit in the travel case.  I used a Wipperman chain with a master link and removed and bagged it separately but just unthreaded the derailleur and padded it without detaching the cable.   

Reattaching the rd required only a 5 mm Allen key and rethreading and connecting the chain.  It only took a couple of minutes and the indexing still worked perfectly with no further adjustment.

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Gear Talk / Re: Best foot wear for touring?
« on: July 28, 2014, 08:31:35 pm »
For all those eager advocates of SPD clips, or any other mechanical method of attaching your feet to the pedals, here's something few of the clip using fraturnity rarely tell you.  Unless you aquaint yourself at an early stage in your cycling life and feel very comfortable getting in and out of clips at split-second notice without having time to think you might end up as I did a few years back, running out of momentum on a steep hill and quite suddenly face down on the black-top.
Your experience was unfortunate but was the result of unfamiliarity, and not an inherent problem with clipless pedals, and your generalized warning is completely wrong  The learning curve is fast and easy and it doesn't take long to get familiar to the point that the release motion is instinctive.    A few rides and some practice will make you competent and a few weeks will make fast release a complete non-issue.  Clipless pedals are much more secure and faster to get out of in an emergency than any clip and strap system.



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General Discussion / Re: importance of componentry
« on: July 11, 2014, 04:41:45 pm »
I have four touring / commuter bikes and have put tens of thousands of miles on them. Three have Dura Ace one has Ultegra... I have a couple other brakes with Dura Ace also. Never had a failure or a gum problem with any kind on of them. All this equipment is incredibly reliable. Also, instead of moving your hands to the unstable end of the bars away from the brakes to shift is, in my opinion dangerous. Not to mention more difficult to shift than STI.  The performance of Dura Ace is exceptional, even when compared to Ultegra. The idea you get bar end shifter because they are more reliable is silly. . If on the incredibly remote chance that something breaks on tour... there is Fed Ex virtually anywhere in North America, Europe and much of Asia. Perhaps if you are touring in sub saharan Africa, or Siberia in the winter. I can shift with my pinky with Dura Ace. Unless you are really constrained by money, I would get nothing else. If constrained, I would get the highest level you can afford. I have found you get what you pay for with Shimano.
I think Dura Ace is the last group you'd consider for a true touring bike.  There is no longer any triple crank or shifter option, a "compact double" (50/34) is the smallest chainring set available and the cassettes are 11-speed and none with very large big cogs.  It's a wonderful racing and sports riding group but out of place for touring. 

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