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Gear Talk / Re: Looking for Rain Pants
« on: March 24, 2013, 11:24:02 am »
So you are saying that you can have waterproof and breathable?  I guess that depends on how much you sweat and how hard you are exercising.   My experience has been and remains that waterproof and breathable fabrics are never breathable enough that I am not wet with sweat when wearing them while riding at my usual pace.

This is an example of what I mean by "old". It is almost invariable that someone in these conversations will begin, "I have never found a...that...or words to that effect.

Gear Talk / Re: Looking for Rain Pants
« on: March 23, 2013, 03:56:19 pm »
Waterproof, breathable.

This is old. I hope it doesn't branch out into a side discussion here. I am sure the archives is loaded with this topic.

So, since this is old and you started the thread, have you found anything?

The "this" is argument can't have waterproof and breathable.

Gear Talk / Re: Looking for Rain Pants
« on: March 22, 2013, 11:32:20 am »
Waterproof, breathable.

This is old. I hope it doesn't branch out into a side discussion here. I am sure the archives is loaded with this topic.


I have toured with a BOB Yak myself and I fully agree with your analysis. However there is something most trailer people never mention. Something which annoys me a lot and explains why I switched back to panniers again. When pulling a trailer, especially standing in the pedals going uphill, I feel a large dead mass behind me. A mass which tries to live its own life. I would describe it as inertia. The trailer gives me small sideways "counter forces" when pedaling and I don't like that.

I have a two wheeled trailer. Yours is one reason I tour with panniers, leaving the trailer at home for shopping, hauling. I call it pulsing; there is a lag between force applied at pedals and force transmitted to trailer, especially felt up hills.

Gear Talk / Re: Touring bikes...
« on: March 19, 2013, 02:32:29 pm »
Every time I have bought a stock bike, they have swapped parts for the difference in value between the parts. 

Good to try, but I have been told shop would only allow 50 percent of value of part swapped toward cost of new part. Yours to decide if that is acceptable.

Gear Talk / Re: Camping Gas/stove
« on: March 19, 2013, 02:27:23 pm »

I look for (liquid gas) fuel in quart bottles either at Wal-Mart, camping stores or hunting fishing stores as I travel or will try to buy it from someone at the campgrounds. Otherwise, I buy a quart at the gas station.

It is rare now days to find liquid gas from someone in a campground. Quart cans of liquid gas in stores are also rare. Camping stores that cater to backpackers that sell liquid gas by the ounce are apt to charge a very high price. Expect to pay as much for a quart as you'd pay for a gallon at a big box store. Rather than pay so much per ounce, I bought a gallon can, filled my bottles and left rest at bike shop, saying give to next touring cyclist.

Gear Talk / Re: Camping Gas/stove
« on: March 17, 2013, 01:41:37 pm »

You can fill up a pint (or quart) fuel can at any gas station in the country with your choice of gas (petrol) or diesel.

Multi-fuel stoves allow gas station gas to be used, but sooting and clogging may result. I have taken two quart fuel bottles, and filled them with half of a gallon can of Coleman fuel, then sold rest of can back to store.

Gear Talk / Re: Camping Gas/stove
« on: March 17, 2013, 01:33:54 pm »
  • I have had trouble finding canisters on my tours in the US.  So I don't usually tour with a canister stove.

Be interested in more specifics from anyone; what geographical areas, etc.

Gear Talk / Re: Touring bikes...
« on: March 16, 2013, 10:18:33 am »
the Salsa Vaya is geared a bit high, at least for me -- plus it's more expensive than the four models above. 

I advise a novice who is going to do fully loaded touring to have lowest possible gear; if you need it, you have it; if you don't, just limit your shifting to your higher gears. For the Vaya, for you, I recommend swapping the 30 tooth chainwheel for a 24.

Gear Talk / Re: Touring bikes...
« on: March 14, 2013, 08:34:00 pm »
No pdlamb, I´m not doing a motel trip. I do need a good bike. I´m just so afraid of getting to much a bike that it will feel too heavy. I tried a Surley Cross Check. I guess it felt pretty good, but like someone here said – riding around the block doesn´t give that much. The Cross Check has the 700 tires and with a triple crankset it is slightly lighter then the LTH.

Ok – I should hurry up and decide and order...

This is the reason why in an earlier post I questioned directing the querist to the niche of ultra-lightweight bicycle camping. It is nearly a month since this woman posted her initial question, and she has yet to decide even the type of bike she should  buy. I suggested she concentrate on that. Touring bikes are best for bicycle touring. On Touring List, another online forum, using a cyclecross bike for touring often comes up. If that's all you have, tour on that. Buying new for touring, buy a touring bike. There should little weight difference between the popular touring bikes mentioned here. More weigh differences between sleeping bags, tents, etc, your next buying decisions if you don't have all of your bicycle camping gear.

Gear Talk / Re: Looking for Rain Pants
« on: March 06, 2013, 10:29:36 am »

Waterproof and breathable means you are going to wear a coating or a membrane because the fabric itself cannot be both. I just plugged gore tex and high fashion rain pants into google and came up with a long list of silly and expensive pants. Umm, poser-wear.

What could be less poser-wear than what I am looking for, bicycle rain pants that look like casual pants?

Gear Talk / Re: Looking for Rain Pants
« on: March 03, 2013, 03:18:28 pm »
I think your request is overly constrained. Although I'm a big fan of double-duty gear, I think in this case you need one of each.

If was easy to find, I wouldn't have posted a query. I disagree wholeheartedly that this should be an impossible quest. I think it entirely feasible, and am surprised a manufacturer hasn't produced pants to fill this need. None of my tours have been done taking one of each. Had a pair of Performance Gore-Tex rain pants that passed, albeit barely, as casual pants. They are not longer available, and what Performance sells now isn't close. Had one manufacturer make me a pair; unfortunately he made them look like sweat pants. He agreed it is a doable project; he just couldn't pull it off. I expect a perusal of this forum will unearth quests that are lot more fantastic than wanting bicycle rain pants that can double as casual pants.

Gear Talk / Re: Looking for Rain Pants
« on: March 03, 2013, 11:45:59 am »
Something like Sierra Designs Microlight pants might meet that criteria depending on your "pass for casual pants" requirements.

Thanks, but "water resistance in light rain for a short period of time" is less protection than I'm looking for.

Gear Talk / Looking for Rain Pants
« on: March 02, 2013, 10:23:28 pm »
Pass for casual pants. Waterproof, breathable.

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