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Routes / Re: Route advice - Oregon to Maine
« Last post by Howard Levitt on Today at 03:11:06 am »
Thanks, John, Brian, and Canalligators.  My thought with Florence, OR, was to simply head east from there, but the Tillamook-Corvallis-Santiam Pass route also has allure, especially if the McKenzie route is impassable in early June.  I am familiar with the Stanley, ID area; have been there several times on Middle Fork of the Salmon river trips - arguably the most spectacular place in the Lower 48. 

Re Canadian route, Canalligators, thanks for the heads-up.  Unless there is a Canadian equivalent of Adventure Cycling Assoc, it may be difficult to find out too much route information.  I could reconnect with the NT, but I'm still going to look for options that head directly toward Montreal, if possible.  Do you know of any good sources of info for possible Canadian routes?

Routes / USBRS Route 90 in SE Arizona
« Last post by roadrunner on February 24, 2017, 11:52:35 pm »
A description of USBRS Route 90 in SE Arizona between Tucson and Rodeo, NM, is posted in the “Corridor 90 Implementation” forum in the U.S. Bicycle Route System category.  The scenic route offers favorable year-round riding conditions through an area rich in history.  The description provides information on the route, road conditions, and services available in communities along the route.
US Bicycle Route System’s Route 90 through southeastern Arizona showcases the area’s long and varied history and the cultures that formed it.  Native Americans inhabited the region for thousands of years before Spanish explorers, beginning with Coronado’s expedition in 1540, entered the area.  Cattle introduced by Spanish friars expanded into vast Mexican, then American, ranches, introducing the cowboy culture still evident in ranches in expansive grasslands in the Sonoita area and San Simone Valley.

After the U.S. acquired the area from Mexico through the Gadsden Purchase in 1853, incursions by miners and cattlemen into the territory of the native Chiricahua Apaches resulted in years of bloody conflicts with settlers and Army forces in present Cochise County.  Fort Huachuca, in Sierra Vista, is the only remaining Army fort in Arizona dating from the Indian Wars period. 

The silver-mining boomtown of Tombstone attracted notorious outlaws and lawmen and has been memorialized in many movies.  When the mines played out, the town settled into a time warp, retaining many of its original buildings and character.  Copper was the basis of the city of Bisbee, a former mining city whose free spirits and artists now exemplify the picturesque town.

Area Overview:
The 180 miles of USBRS Route 90 between Tucson and New Mexico traverses “range and basin” topography, characterized by numerous isolated mountain ranges separated by broad high desert valleys.  Fortunately for bike riders, the highways usually wind between mountain ranges.  Grades are generally quite mild, with only two significant climbs – between Tucson and Sonoita and over Mule Pass just north of Bisbee.  Several of the roads have little to no shoulders, but traffic is generally light.

Weather conditions offer favorable year-round riding conditions.  With elevations between 4,000 and 5,000 feet, summer temperatures are 10° to 15° cooler than the lower portions of Route 90 to the west.  Summer temperatures often reach into the 90s, but seldom reach 100°.  The daytime heat is tempered by cool nights.  The July through mid-September monsoon brings scattered thunderstorms, usually of short duration, and cooler temperatures.  Winter nighttime temperatures may fall below freezing, but daytime temperatures are usually in the 50s and 60s.  Winds in March and April may be challenging. 

Maps depicting Route 90 prepared by the Arizona Department of Transportation are available at .  An interactive map is available on the Adventure Cycling website:
General Discussion / Re: Cycling around the Grand Canyon Area
« Last post by John Nelson on February 24, 2017, 10:18:28 pm »
do some cycling in and around the Grand Canyon
Around, yes. In, no.
General Discussion / Re: Cycling around the Grand Canyon Area
« Last post by zzzz on February 24, 2017, 09:15:54 pm »
Hi Bevan:

I was leafing thru the latest issue of the ACA magazine and when I got to the back cover there was an ad for various ACA sposored tours. There are 2 tours they are running at and about the North Rim (the much better half of the GC) in September, each goes for 7 days.

Here are the links :

Hope this helps.


Routes / Re: Seattle to Anacortes
« Last post by adventurepdx on February 24, 2017, 08:53:16 pm »
Hello Heidi! I don't want to be "that guy", but this comes up like once or twice a year here. Putting "Anacortes" into the search box got me these hits: Note: This one also contains links to other older threads about Seattle-Anacortes.

I guess the big question is: Do you want to ride, or not? There are options both ways.

Hope this helps.
Routes / Seattle to Anacortes
« Last post by Heidi on February 24, 2017, 06:33:40 pm »
I am planning a Northern Tier trip this June, and wondered how other riders made it from Seattle to Anacortes.  I noticed some had taken a ferry to Bremerton, then rode north. How long did this take?  Is there another option?  Thanks.
Routes / Re: Route advice - Oregon to Maine
« Last post by bbarrettx on February 24, 2017, 03:51:50 pm »
I concur with John on the OR coast and the Sawtooths. If you start in Astoria you can drop in on Canon Beach for a lunch and then maybe finish up in Tilamook or just do an easy day and overnight in Canon Beach and start for real the following day. If the weather is nice you'll have great northerly winds pushing you down the coast. Having also done the TransAm in 87 I can tell you that it's right up there with my most scenic days on that tour, maybe the top day. I liked it so much that I rode Seattle to San Diego the following summer. The coastal section of the TA ends shortly after Tilamook where you cross east into the Willamette Valley and continue south to Eugene, which is where you'll end up if you start in Florence. If you still decide to start in Florence I'd suggest a drive down the coast from Astoria the day before you start. You won't be disappointed unless it's raining.

The Sawtooths of ID are the hidden Tetons. Just google some pics of Stanley, ID to get a feel. Highly recommended if you decide to cut off the TA and pass on Missoula. Will probably save you some miles as the TA seems to meander up to Missoula because AC is based there. It's beautiful country but it's a roundabout way to Yellowstone. I've spent a lot of time mountain biking in the Sawtooths but not touring so I can't vouch for the roads from a touring standpoint except to say that the shoulders seem fine and traffic should be light even on weekends in June. Sounds like John says the roads are good. It will follow one of the forks of the Salmon (middle?) downstream out of Stanley for several miles. Great camping and restaurant at Redfish Lake. Nice country that's not well traveled until July and August.
Routes / Re: Route advice - Oregon to Maine
« Last post by jamawani on February 24, 2017, 02:33:53 pm »
Hi again, Howard -

I don't live in Oregon - although I have friends who have been working on me for years to move there - but I have been starting and ending trips up and down the Oregon coast since September of 1987. (That was my 1st X-USA starting at Astoria.) I won't tell you how many time since you might think that i'm not quite right.

Like many, I think the southern coast is most spectacular, but it isn't convenient for a cross state tour. The middle coast has some wonderful sections - esp. from Depoe Bay south to Heceta Head. But the coast near Florence is level with dunes - not the ragged bluffs and rocks so typical of the Oregon Coast. The north coast has some great sections, too - Oswald West & the Three Capes. Pretty level near Astoria, too - unless you cross the Columbia to Cape Disappointment in Washington.

I've started/ended many trips in the Tillamook/Cape Lookout/Pacific City area. Tillamook has all services, plus a nice cheese factory. Pacific City is a funky little coast town with the essentials. On my X-USA trips, I have always wanted to have a day on either end to take in the coast. YMMV - but I like to get the feel and smell the salt and see the sun rise or set on the water.

Here's a trip inland from Pacific City recently -

I connected with the TransAm at Sisters after crossing Santiam Pass. Even if you took the designated TransAm, you would probably have to use Santiam Pass in June this year instead of McKenzie. Another option is to rougly follow US 20 from Newport (maybe Yaquina Head Lighthouse - cause the feel and the views are superb) thru the college town Corvallis to Santiam Pass. On this trip I cut off from the TransAm at Austin Jct. and rode thru the Sawtooth Mountains in Idaho. There are some fantabulous hot springs that your chauffeur might enjoy.

About my pix - I don't know for sure where any of them are any more. My electronic filing methods seem to have copied my paper filing methods - which were limited, at best.

This pic - Sawtooth Mountains near Stanley in late June, 2004.

Best - J

Gear Talk / 29+ Wheelset Rec
« Last post by cbowman on February 24, 2017, 01:56:37 pm »
Planning a month-long bikepack for May-June. Interested in running ~3" tires on a steel Vassago Chupcabra and need a new wheelset. Looking for durability and low cost, weight is less of a concern for me. Bike has an old QR not sure what size (10mm?), and 6 bolt attachments. If anyone can point me in the right direction on wheelset options, would be very much appreciated.
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