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General Discussion / Re: Logistics of shipping equipment for touring
« Last post by Patco on April 15, 2014, 05:36:54 pm »
Another thought for your consideration. I have generally packed my bikes in cardboard boxes built for shipping bikes (as has been suggested, a box for the bike and a box for gear, although I generally have three boxes since I ship my wheels in a separate box) and then I use UPS and have them delivered to my first night destination (generally a hotel near the airport of my start point), where I put the bike together, take a test ride, and leave the following morning. I have never had a problem with a hotel accepting the boxes for a future guest. I generally ship so that the boxes will arrive two days before I arrive. I want a cushion. I have found the cost to be less, and the hassle to be less.
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General Discussion / Re: Logistics of shipping equipment for touring
« Last post by John Nelson on April 15, 2014, 02:56:58 pm »
In my opinion, the humble cardboard box is your friend. You can pack your bike in one. You can pack your gear in one. You can pack anything in a cardboard box. Just remember to pay close attention to the airline or carrier limitations on size and weight, and any price jumps at certain points.
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General Discussion / Re: Logistics of shipping equipment for touring
« Last post by DaveB on April 15, 2014, 02:37:51 pm »
Also pay attention to the weight limit of checked baggage which, these days, is 50 pounds/item. The overweight charges are appalling so be careful of packing too much extra gear in with your bike.  If you can ship your bikes via Fed Ex or UPS to the first night's motel or a local bike shop prior to the trip the cost may be much less.
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General Discussion / Re: Logistics of shipping equipment for touring
« Last post by staehpj1 on April 15, 2014, 12:20:25 pm »
Will you be flying to and from the same location?  If not a hard shell case will be a hassle any way.

I have used a cardboard box numerous times with good luck.  I have also used a soft case a few times.  You may need to remove the racks and fenders.  If so they can usually fit in the box or case with careful packing.  Fenders can kind of spoon with the wheels.  If the racks don't fit in the box they can be in the bags with your other gear.

I pack light and have been able to fit everything in my soft case gear and all, with the exception of a few items in a carry on small enough to fit under the seat.  The heavier you pack the more difficult since bags are usually limited to 50 pounds each.

Do check the bicycle policy before buying plane tickets  since some airlines might charge as much as $200 per leg of the flight.  Southwest is the most bike friendly in my experience.  I highly recommend them if they fly where you want to go.  Delta is the worst of the airlines I have used wrt bikes as baggage.
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General Discussion / Re: no progress with Amtrak for GAP / C&O
« Last post by staehpj1 on April 15, 2014, 11:54:34 am »
A bit off-track (pun intended) but does Greyhound/Trailways offer any reasonable bike transport as accompanying luggage for passengers?
Yes.  I haven't used them but have dropped off a buddy who did.  I don't have any details, but can at least acknowledge that the service exists.  I have also read that they will ship bikes as cargo.
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General Discussion / Logistics of shipping equipment for touring
« Last post by xenomera on April 15, 2014, 11:22:21 am »
My wife and I are planning to do some touring in the midwest (from California), and need to fly there with our bikes and equipment.

Here are a few logistical questions I'm curious about to those who have travelled with bikes.

1) Our bikes have fenders and Tubus racks on them (Tubus Carry on back, and Tubus Nova on the front). It doesn't look like the hard shell cases that I have seen are big enough to carry the bikes and the fenders/racks. What's the best carrying method for bikes with these accessories?

2) Our camping equipment includes a small whitegas stove (MSR Firefly) and a couple of white gas containers (empty of course). Can I just put these in my checked panniers?

Thanks.
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General Discussion / Re: no progress with Amtrak for GAP / C&O
« Last post by DaveB on April 15, 2014, 11:07:39 am »
A bit off-track (pun intended) but does Greyhound/Trailways offer any reasonable bike transport as accompanying luggage for passengers?
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Bicycle Route 66 / Route 66 (Part 1) Flagstaff, AZ to Chicago, IL
« Last post by jfinchgo on April 15, 2014, 09:33:08 am »
Hi,
We're riding Route 66 beginning April 19, 2014.  ETA Chicago - first week of June.  Staying in hotels (no camping).  You can follow us on our blog at:
www.2pedalers.wordpress.com.

Jeff & Ellen
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General Discussion / Re: no progress with Amtrak for GAP / C&O
« Last post by GSullivan on April 15, 2014, 08:40:03 am »
Hi All -

Thanks for engaging in this topic. I'm actually happy to report that we are making progress with Amtrak. This January, Adventure Cycling and Amtrak formed a Bicycle Task Force to work on several initiatives for helping make Amtrak more friendly to bicycles. Here is the vision statement: Amtrak officials, passenger rail association members, bicycle and trail advocates, and transportation officials are convening a Task Force to address both long-term and short-term goals for improving bicycle access and services. The Task Force will build the business case for bicycles/cyclists on Amtrak, and will oversee pilot project(s) within the Northeast region that will facilitate and document design solutions, potential policy changes and communication strategies for better bicycle service.

We are working on choosing two pilot projects in the next month. One will be on a long corridor and one will be on a short corridor in the North East region. The routes chosen will depend on a long laundry list of things - funding, local and/or state agency support, cars, platform accommodations, operational limitations, etc. But the Amtrak officials and the bicycle, passenger rails advocates are dedicated to make the pilots successful. 

Stay tuned for more information, we'll be announcing more progress publicly as we determine which lines we'll be piloting and figuring out the business case and how we can make the pilots work across numerous Amtrak lines. If you wish to be included in the "milestone updates" please contact the travel initiatives department and we'll put you on the email list.

Thanks!
Ginny Sullivan
Director of Travel Initiatives
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General Discussion / Re: Tools for adventure
« Last post by PeteJack on April 15, 2014, 08:15:06 am »
Take some electrical tape (the good 3M stuff) for when your Safari bar tape comes undone as it surely will.
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