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Gear Talk / Re: Best foot wear for touring?
« Last post by SlowAndSlower on Today at 06:09:45 pm »
I gave up cycling shoes when they got wet and stayed wet. Switched to bicycling sandals with clipless cleats. Only footwear.

+1 For my wider feet I can adjust the fit better. Also easy to use waterproof liners like SealSkinz.
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General Discussion / Re: [California] SF to SD Biking Trip
« Last post by JDFlood on Today at 04:34:15 pm »
Yes, but South Dakota is 1,600. Maybe not as bad.
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General Discussion / Re: Washington Hiker/Biker Campsites?
« Last post by cgarch on Today at 02:36:45 pm »
Olympic NP doesn't have hiker/biker sites

We've only been to the NPS Olympic campground at Fairholm (or Fairholme) once (2009) but it did have specific HB sites [down a rather steep trail]. Nice too. Kalaloch does not. If you plan to visit Kalaloch before Labor day a reservation is highly recommended.
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I've heard of a few people who have done work on tour on places like the Pacific Coast. What they normally would do is stay at the hiker/biker sites, then find an adequate cafe in a town and then plunk themselves down on the laptop for several hours.

Ya' know what's funny?  This was primarily what I had planned on doing all along ...in fact, the idea has been much more along the lines of "going from city to city" with the need to have a facility to camp and shower in between ... I always figured in town would be the place where I'd go to a starbucks etc.etc. plus I like the idea of visiting more urban areas ...of course this brings the entire "security" issue into play much more loudly - I know. 
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Gear Talk / Re: Best foot wear for touring?
« Last post by staehpj1 on Today at 01:23:29 pm »
I gave up cycling shoes when they got wet and stayed wet. Switched to bicycling sandals with clipless cleats. Only footwear.

That is a point that many people miss.  My solution isn't sandals though.  Unlike most other bike shoes I have owned, I find that my sidis soak up almost no water.  They soak little enough water that if I change socks I have dry feet, but I usually do not bother because I wear socks that aren't too bad when wet and dry quickly as long as the shoes have a lot of mesh.  So it has become an non issue for me, but I do remember having shoes that seemed to never dry.
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Gear Talk / Re: Best foot wear for touring?
« Last post by dkoloko on Today at 01:00:01 pm »
I gave up cycling shoes when they got wet and stayed wet. Switched to bicycling sandals with clipless cleats. Only footwear.
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...had made the assumption the campsites that had been mentioned catered mainly to cyclists, run by cyclists etc.  So they're just your standard campgrounds ...

I think the problem you're going to run into if you want to use campgrounds as the base to work is the ones that are more catering to cyclists/hiker-biker sites, while usually cheaper than $40-50 a night, are pretty rustic and don't have that many services. If you're going to be looking at things like a reliable source of power and wi-fi for your laptop, you'll have to look more at those campgrounds that cater more to the RV set. And those ones are going to be more expensive.

I've heard of a few people who have done work on tour on places like the Pacific Coast. What they normally would do is stay at the hiker/biker sites, then find an adequate cafe in a town and then plunk themselves down on the laptop for several hours.
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General Discussion / Re: [California] SF to SD Biking Trip
« Last post by adventurepdx on Today at 12:52:28 pm »
Let's see that is about 110 miles a day.

I don't understand your math here. Using bike directions on google maps, the distance from San Francisco to San Diego is about 620 miles. It'll probably be slightly longer, so it might be more safe to say 700 miles. And the OP has 14 days (two weeks) to do it. Doing the math, I get 50 miles a day, which is pretty manageable for many people touring.
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I don't think they are considering cyclists at all. They set these prices based on big RVs with big boats, and they don't see any need to offer reduced rates for people with smaller footprints.

Got it ...had made the assumption the campsites that had been mentioned catered mainly to cyclists, run by cyclists etc.  So they're just your standard campgrounds ...I get it.
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Aaron at Gravity Sports in McCall called about the riding conditions on the Secesh Option. Basically it is unrideable in a couple of sections due to an excessive amount of downed trees and/or rutted trails:

1) From Twentymile Trailhead to Foolhen Meadows Trailhead - he was out here himself and said it wasn't suited to loaded riding of any kind right now due to the number of trees down. He only got about 5 miles in before he had to turn back.

2) From A to F on the map, in addition to downed trees, the trail is quite rutted - this was reported by cyclists coming into the shop. They had spent hours climbing over the downed trees and were frustrated by the amount they encountered.

Aaron talked to the local forest rangers and they stated it would be at least mid-September before they would have a chance to get in there and clear any of it. Apparently this is common due to the nature of the area.
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