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Routes / Re: before I'm 70
« Last post by indyfabz on Today at 09:29:44 am »
Yeah. I don't see much ACA route map mileage there, except maybe for some Northern Tier mileage. In NY, OH and IN.

The stretch through/near places like Gary and Hammond, IN and south of CHI could be gnarly. Lot's of industrial areas in those parts. I would also expect camping to be an issue.
Routes / Re: before I'm 70
« Last post by staehpj1 on Today at 06:19:44 am »
Not too sure what to say about that route, since I don't know what your criteria was, but it looks like you are hitting a lot of urban areas that I would avoid.

In any case I doubt that the AC maps will cover much of that route.  The AC maps are narrow strip maps of particular routes.  I'd be more inclined to just pick from the AC routes rather than follow your route unless you have a special reason to prefer that route.
Routes / before I'm 70
« Last post by Highland27 on Today at 12:28:34 am »
Now I know everyone must be over all the questions about crossing America and I will under stand if you scrap this one. This route that I'v added below is just one I've put together for my daughter and I for May 2016, I will be ordering all the ACA maps that cover areas we are going through. The answers we are after are, can anyone see parts of this route that we should reconsider, we know there are an amazing amount of place to experience but they may have to be on the before I'm 75 trip.

General Discussion / Re: Great divide route
« Last post by Iowagriz on August 19, 2014, 10:32:29 pm »
Steve, we were riding the last week of July, so keep that in mind.  Here is my gear list, I think I had it pretty close to perfect. Only few items that I'll note, that I didn't use or would leave off next time (weather dependent).

45 degree, Mountain Hardware sleeping bag
Down jacket w/hood
Rain jacket/pants
long sleeve long underwear top
running shorts
cycling tights
wool cycling socks
(the above items were not only available for daily wear or potential cold riding. I slept in the shorts and top and usually socks, but I also ended up using the tights and the jacket on a colder night, I sleep really cold)

2 pair cycling shorts (rinsed and alternated daily)
1 cycling jersey (would rinse and just wear again to dry out)
2 pair cycling socks (rinsed and alternated daily)

We shared a larger pot, 1 bowl and stove/fuel
I use a Klymit pad, love the pillow
Shared a few other items like pump, tools, medical kit, etc
70oz camelback
large water bottle for carrying tea/gatoraide, etc
Used a Garmin and maps for navigation, no problems there
Also had cell phone and battery backups available, plus charging cables

Items that I brought and didn't ever use.
technical t-shirt. by the time we stopped I just put on the long sleeved version
underwear. planned on using for sleeping, but just used the running shorts
stocking cap. just used hooded down jacket
winter weight cycling gloves. weather dependent, didn't need.

I"ll look for my detailed packing list and email it to you. I know that I'm missing some items from the above list as it was from my memory.
General Discussion / Re: Great divide route
« Last post by Iowagriz on August 19, 2014, 10:16:31 pm »
No we didn't do the wall.  Our trip was based on starting in and returning to Columbia Falls (I grew up there, parents still live there).

For others reading this, that might want to experience a section of the GDMBR, I'd highly recommend a loop from the Whitefish/Bigfork area. Our trip was as follows:

  • Had dad drive us to border above Eureka, mostly symbolic, ride to Red Meadow Lake for camping
  • Rode to Bigfork, got caught in storm, which shortened our mileage for the day, learned to adapt
  • Rode from Bigfork to Clearwater Lake after spending a good 3hrs at Holland Lake Lodge
  • Clearwater Lake to Seeley Lake for breakfast, then to Ovando and back to Seeley for camping, originally hoped to make it to Lincoln, but rain shortened day cut our mileage down
  • Seeley Lake back north on route to Peck Lake (great camping spot)
  • Peck Lake to Swan Lake for extraction by dad, no sense in riding pavement again and had other family in the area
  • Rode Going to the Sun Highway the following day for the experience, great way to see the park

As for gear, I'll try to list in a separate post.
Southwest / canyon de chelly, AZ
« Last post by bgphelps2 on August 19, 2014, 04:17:29 pm »
I will be cycling solo, self-contained toward the canyon from Window Rock, AZ near the end of Sept. I heard Route 191 from Ganado to Chinle is crazy busy, has no shoulders but lots of curves. Has anyone cycled on Route 12 north from Window Rock to the south rim road 7 to gain entrance into the Park?  The other longer way for me is to continue north on Route 12 and then west - Route 64 ( north rim road back to the main entrance). Are these rim roads paved or dirt? Are they doable with 700x32 tires?  I'd rather do a loop in the Park, rather than have to back track out on Route 64.  Ultimately, I want to get to Shiprock, NM.  What condition is Route 13 toward Red Rock? Paved or dirt? What's the %slope of the climb?
General Discussion / Re: Sour clothing - after washing!
« Last post by adventurepdx on August 19, 2014, 03:27:11 pm »
Baking soda works wonders.
General Discussion / Re: Great divide route
« Last post by stever1210 on August 19, 2014, 01:06:19 pm »

Hey man thanks for the pics!

Wanted to ask how you guys did on the "wall" section.

I have been reading about  people on crazyguyonabike journals!

It seems that those that were loaded up with either panniers or BOB trailers had to break down and carry stuff to top and then get their bikes.  Something about using hand holds that steep!

Anyway those journals are awesome to read.

Also was there a reason why you only did trip to Ovando.

do you plan to ride more of it or whole thing.

What was your sleeping rated to? and what did it weigh?

here is my email

thanks again for talking to me

Steve Reynolds
The Boise National Forest just called to let me know that the Middle Fork Rd./268 is still closed, and probably will be for the remainder of the riding season. They are going to be moving fast to get this fixed before winter, as it is the main (only) supply line to Atlanta during that season.

We discussed alternative routing and their thinking was the same as mine: use 327 up and over Rabbit Creek Summit, through Barber Flat and Deer Park, and down Swanholm Creek Rd/327 to the junction of Phifer Creek Rd and the Middle Fork Road. These roads are fully open and have had no slides on them.

Also, there has been some logging around the junction of Phifer Creek Rd./156 and FR 129. Please use caution as it seems a cyclist was almost hit by a falling tree. This was not the cyclist's fault as there were no flaggers out blocking traffic - something I told the FS the loggers need to do. They agreed, and were going to talk to them, but regardless, still use caution.
General Discussion / Re: Great divide route
« Last post by Iowagriz on August 19, 2014, 09:43:27 am »
Link to my photo album:

You will see a photo or two of my bike.  One guys was fully self-contained as he was prepping for racing this next year. I was sharing items with the other guy.  Bike was close to 52lbs with water and food.

My thoughts after this first major bikepacking trip and this ride.  It wasn't as remote as I expected, we ran into 2-5 riders each day. Also a surprising amount of homes/public, etc.  Not in a bad way, but in a felt safer than expected way.  However, that doesn't mean that you can't be prepared and self sufficient.  The riding was beautiful and not necessarily hard. I found it surprisingly easy to ride along at a talking pace for the majority of a day.

I'm open to more questions.  Enjoy the trip, but planning is also 1/2 the fun.
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