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General Discussion / Re: Surly LHT/Disc Trucker
« Last post by CanvasAndSteel on Today at 10:07:11 am »
An addendum to my recent post. This goes into good detail on why square taper and ISIS bottom brackets, that use larger bearings, are more durable than Hollowtech, etc that use smaller bearings.

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Routes / Re: West from Pittsburgh to Ohio
« Last post by indyfabz on Today at 09:11:17 am »
March? If that's correct, be advised that the Big Savage Tunnel on the GAP has variable opening dates. It might not be open until as late as the second week in April. There is no easy work around.
General Discussion / Re: Surly LHT/Disc Trucker
« Last post by CanvasAndSteel on Today at 09:06:27 am »
After reading through all of this I have two recommendations for you. One would be to Google "LHT Build." That will give you umpteen thousand iterations of how different people built up their LHTs. The other would be to go the the Surly Bicycles group on Facebook. The members will be able to give you immediate and accurate advice (meaning you won't be told that square taper bottom brackets are no longer made or that they are, but just basic, inexpensive ones). By the way, you'll love your bike. I built up Surly Trolls for my wife and me.

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General Discussion / Re: Surly LHT/Disc Trucker
« Last post by DaveB on Today at 09:01:48 am »
Thanks guys.  I like the Randonneur bars, will they work with the retroshifters brake caliper lever mounted levers?
Yes, they have the same diameter at the brake lever mount area as other road bars. 
Routes / Wild camping along US Highway 50 in Nevada
« Last post by PeanutButterShammyCream on Today at 06:30:18 am »
Will there be chill spots to wild camp along this route? I don't like paying for camping, and it is more of an adventure when I am wild camping.
General Discussion / Re: Surly LHT/Disc Trucker
« Last post by fiveonomo on November 27, 2015, 09:11:21 pm »
Thanks guys.  I like the Randonneur bars, will they work with the retroshifters brake caliper mounted levers?
Routes / Re: West from Pittsburgh to Ohio
« Last post by jamawani on November 27, 2015, 07:28:42 pm »
Rob -

Please do not trust Google Maps - they are notoriously wrong.
In the West it has routed people on nonexistent roads, private ranch roads, you name it.
It may take more work, but there are resources out there.

Years back I did the C&O in the summer and it was great - quiet, cool, adventurous.
But my roommate did it in the fall - when it was rainy - and was miserable.
As early as you are planning, all the water will be turned off, and the towpath will be a sea of mud.

I know you have talked about short daily mileage - and a six month window.
But March is just too early for this part of the country.
Not to mention what a pain it is to get across Chesapeake Bay.


Have you considered starting some place like Sapelo Island, Georgia? (Or Jekyll Island)
Then head across southern Georgia and southern Alabama - many civil rights sites.
Then grab the Underground RR ACA route -
Then working your way northwest up to St. Louie?
At 25 miles per day with every 5th day off - it would take about 9 weeks.
Not to mention lovely azaleas and dogwoods - and very few climbs.

PS - According to Rand McNally it's 827 miles from DC to St. Louis, but only 802 miles from Savannah to St. Louis.
And that doesn't include the extra 80 miles in the Delmarva peninsula plus crossing the bay.
Take away - it is no further leaving from the Georgia coast and with far better weather conditions.

Sapelo Island, Live Oaks and Palmettos
General Discussion / Re: Surly LHT/Disc Trucker
« Last post by RussSeaton on November 27, 2015, 01:48:15 pm »
Do those bars serve a special purpose or are they just another set of bars?  I guess what I am asking is are they built specifically for a certain riding style?

They are handlebars for a bike.  Road style bike.  The purpose today is they are for the older, slower long distance rider.  Randonneur is a long distance riding style.  If you look at the historical (40s 50s) pictures of European bicycle racers, you will often see flared handlebars on their bikes.  And more upright riding positions with stems showing.  The tiny bike with the seat as high as possible and the bars as low as possible is a newer look.  In olden times the racers raced 100+ miles everyday for 8 months on less than smooth roads.  Sometimes dirt or gravel roads.  So having a comfortable bike was more important than a super aerodynamic bike.
Routes / Re: West from Pittsburgh to Ohio
« Last post by roadrunner on November 27, 2015, 01:43:21 pm »
Hi Whitebirch,

I did a Chesapeake Bay to Mississippi River tour in 2006, with the objective of riding as many trails as practical.  Rode the C&O Canal and GAP trails to Pittsburgh, then the Montour Trail to the Panhandle Trail to Stubenville.  Both of those trails have been further developed since then.  The day riding west from Stubenville was the hilliest of the entire tour.

Much of northern Illinois can be crossed riding trails.  I rode the Kankakee River State Park Trail, the I&M Canal Trail, and Hennepin Canal Trail, finishing at Rock Island, Illinois.

You will likely be be able to ride some trails in Iowa.  I'm planning a tour next year across Iowa, following the American Discovery Trail, a 500-mile zigzag route which includes over 300 miles of rail trails.
Gear Talk / Re: Lookin for rain poncho
« Last post by BikePacker on November 27, 2015, 01:30:23 pm »
I am always going to end up wet, as well .... all I have learned is that I can minimize the drenching by having snug fitting rain proof clothing around my neck, wrists and waistband.
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