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GPS Discussion / Re: Oregon 650 With City Nav Maps
« Last post by mdxix on Today at 12:34:14 am »
This could be for a number of factors. However, without getting too much into them, we have received very little positive feedback that the turn prompts are reliable.

It has been very common that, when the GPS unit attempt to calculate the turn prompts, it misinterpret the route, hence giving false turn prompts. This is more challenging with City Navigator as it does not contain trails.

I have used various Edge mapping devices (705, 810, & 1000) with routes from various sources (GPSies, Ride with GPS, & Garmin Connect). While they work most of the time, there are enough times that they give me incorrect turn prompts. Instead, I rely on following the visible track on the screen.
Gear Talk / Re: A folding bike for touring?
« Last post by John Nelson on Today at 12:21:42 am »
Lots of Bike Fridays on the TransAm.
Gear Talk / Re: A folding bike for touring?
« Last post by bogiesan on July 24, 2014, 10:41:00 pm »
Rhetorical question or serious?
Bike Friday has used Cycle Oregon for their Coming Home event several times. Touring veterans from all over the world came and rode their Fridays with us for 350 miles. I see several Bromptons and Fridays on tours or out on the roads, panniered and bagged, rigged for travel. Not so many Dahon folders.
General Discussion / Re: brooks saddle break-in how long
« Last post by kukula on July 24, 2014, 08:00:07 pm »
Here is my comfy Champion Flyer:

General Discussion / Re: brooks saddle break-in how long
« Last post by Pat Lamb on July 24, 2014, 04:45:22 pm »
Not a Swift, but I've broken in four B-17s.  All of them felt pretty good once they were adjusted correctly when new.  It took 300-500 miles for each saddle to disappear, such that I stopped noticing it.

I've read the Team Pro is supposed to have thicker leather, so it takes longer to break in.  Some people say those take 1,000 miles to break in.  I'm not sure where on the B-17/Team Pro line the Swift falls.

Two notes.  First, adjustment is critical for a Brooks saddle.  I prefer two-bolt seatposts for the ease in making minor adjustments (without starting over every time you unscrew the single bolt on the other design).  Second, while many tourists prefer Brooks saddles - half or more, in my observations - not every bottom matches up with a Brooks.
General Discussion / brooks saddle break-in how long
« Last post by drew5889 on July 24, 2014, 04:23:37 pm »
I am think about buying an all most new brooks swift might have  25 miles or less. Q has any one used or broke-in a swift ? how did it fill as new ? how long did it take to break it in ? did any one use any short cuts ? does any one have any pictures they could show ?  thanks
General Discussion / Re: Bike / Hike Campsites on southern PCR
« Last post by litespeed on July 24, 2014, 03:36:08 pm »
The major problem in the parks on the southern California coast is not lack of camping spots it is the "homeless" (to use a polite term) stumbling around. The last time I went down the coast they were such pests that I cut inland at Paso Robles to get away from them.

If I sound unsympathetic it is because I got to really know them after I got out of the army. I spent a few years knocking around the country, staying in cheap rooms and working out of rent-a-drunk labor outfits and government employment centers. I always had a buck in my pocket, clean clothes on my back and a roof over my head because I was willing to work at whatever I was offered. I never met any homeless person who was "down on his luck" or mentally ill. They ALL had simply made a life decision to beg, drink cheap wine and use drugs instead of work.
General Discussion / Re: dogs and security
« Last post by litespeed on July 24, 2014, 03:09:49 pm »
My favorite trick is to swerve back and forth if there is room to do it safely. This really confuses the dogs. I have had them run into signposts, telephone poles and culverts, get all tangled up with each other and go down in a tumbling, dusty heap, even just trip all over themselves. They can't handle a swerving target.
General Discussion / Re: Washington Hiker/Biker Campsites?
« Last post by JMilyko on July 24, 2014, 01:57:20 pm »
Slight seqway on this topic.  How were the hiker/biker sites in California from SF south to the border?  I've head that quite a few no longer have hiker/biker sites (eg South Carlsbad).

From the Pacific Coast Section 5 addenda (

Some of the CA state parks have closed their hiker/biker sites due to vagrants. You can find a updated list of hiker/biker sites by searching "Activity/Facility" at this site:

Hope that helps.
General Discussion / Re: cooking stoves for bike travel in Europe
« Last post by sanuk on July 24, 2014, 11:15:35 am »
So what exactly is the stove you like to use more Irqo?  We fly to Kerkines first week of August aiming to ride the Iron Curtain Trail down to Helsinki.  We still haven't decided what stove to get.  It's entirely determined by what they have in the outdoor equipment stores in Stuttgart  - there's only two decent ones it seems and only one has MSR stoves - in fact last time we looked they only had one - total.  An MSR would be my prefered choice if, as you say, gasoline and/or other suitable flamable liquids are easily available in Finland.  Otherwise it'll have to be a gas canister fueled thing, none of which look very stable although certainly light weight.  This weekend looks like decision time.
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