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Routes / Re: Dallas to Black Rock City, NV
« Last post by Venchka on June 30, 2015, 03:50:57 pm »
WOW! Awesome trip. Leaving DFW in August might make you The Burning Man. Just kidding. August is the month that I try to be somewhere high in the Rockies.
Now, as for daily average mileage...
In a previous lifetime I flew to Salt Lake City. SLC was in a heat wave, 105+ during the day. I rode out of the airport about 10pm & stopped about 8am the next morning in Logan, UT. 70 odd miles as I recall. For the next 12 days I rode anywhere from 35 miles to 75 miles. The first week heading to the Tetons & Yellowstone and climbing over passes all the time nearly killed me. By the time I got to Yellowstone I crossed the Continental Divide 3 times, the first time in the afternoon & twice the next morning. Piece of cake. My only mileage goal was the 750-760 miles I needed to ride to get back to the airport. In between I stopped where it was convenient for me at the time. Example: Afton, WY to a forest service campground on the Snake River, 35 miles. I picked that spot because I did not think that I could get to a campground in G.T.N.P. before dark and knew that Jackson, WY would be expensive. Quite by accident, a group of Boy Scouts and adult leaders camped next to me. They invited me to join them for a raft trip down the Snake. Afterwards they made me eat elk steaks cooked over an open fire. A day I'll never forget. I made up the miles from my short day later in the trip on flat to slightly downhill grades in Idaho and arrived back in SLC the afternoon before my flight.
Good luck!


ps: OOPS! I got this thread confused with your other thread about daily averages. My C.R.S. must be acting up.
Routes / Re: Pacific Coast Highway on a road bike?
« Last post by craigory on June 30, 2015, 03:03:48 pm »
Thanks for all the helpful responses! I think I'm going to go for the packing light option and just use my road bike.  I'm planning on starting in Vancouver, Canada, and ending in Crescent City, CA.  According to what I read online there aren't too many steep hills in that section of the PCH.  We'll be doing a combination of camping and staying with people along the route, so I'll be figuring that part out a little bit more.  I'll post more questions when I have them.  Thanks for being so prompt and helpful!
General Discussion / Re: What's an 'average' day?
« Last post by staehpj1 on June 30, 2015, 07:20:41 am »
Most of the folks that I know who planned longer daily mileages typically found that they averaged a bit less than they expected.

What is average may not really be meaningful to you, but I think that in the range of touring riders most fall in the 50-70 mile per day range.  A fair number are 10 miles per day on either side of that range, and just a few are farther outside that range in either direction.  Folks averaging 100 miles per day are fairly rare.

That said the terrain you picked sounds like it is pretty good for knocking out longer mileage.

One other thing...  I highly recommend open ended schedules.  Allow more time than you need and finish when you finish whether that is early or late.  Set schedules can be joy killers.  BTW, the same applies to budgets.  It keeps things stress free to have more time and money than you need.  It doesn't mean you have to use more of either, but having options is nice.
General Discussion / Re: What's an 'average' day?
« Last post by John Nelson on June 30, 2015, 06:47:11 am »
I find my average mileage also depends on available daylight. I average more miles a day on a tour in June than I do on a tour in September.

I like to plan on 60 miles a day. I have, however, averaged 75 miles a day on a two-month tour, with no rest days. But that was when the daylight is long. When the daylight is long, I can ride as late as 10 PM. In fact, I like riding between 6 PM and 9 PM when the light is very pleasant and the temperatures have come down. I sometimes stop for dinner and then ride a few more hours before quitting for the day.

My typical day is usually 5 miles longer than the map says. That's because of off-route mileage to access services.

I typically go the same daily distance in hilly terrain as in flat terrain. I'm not sure why.

Plan in a few extra days. That way if you're not feeling strong one day, you can cut the mileage short. There's not much worse than grinding out miles when your heart isn't in it. OTOH, if you have a strong day, you can ride until the cows come home.

Don't go long miles each day unless your time is short or you're driven by the challenge.
General Discussion / Re: Bicycle tools for a cross country ride
« Last post by Tim Cullip on June 29, 2015, 07:31:49 pm »
I've broken a chain once on a day ride (not a tour) and wished I had my chain tool with me. I also once helped a stranger fix a broken chain on a week long ride (glad I had my chain tool with me). I will always take a chain tool on a tour just for the peace of mind.

"It's all a part of the adventure",
Tim Cullip
General Discussion / Re: What's an 'average' day?
« Last post by Tim Cullip on June 29, 2015, 07:18:25 pm »
It is very hard to give an estimate since there are so many variables, but the best advice I can give you is to plan out a 5 to 7 day practice tour with an average daily distance near your goal (so I'd say 80 to 110 miles a day) and see how it goes.

I've done several 7 to 10 day rides in NC, Virginia, Tennessee with a mixture of mountains, hills, and fairly flat terrain with about 40 pounds of gear. I've found that 60 miles a day is good in the mountains, 70 - 80 in hills, and 90 in flat terrain is doable for me (I've put in 5000 miles/year for the past 2.5 years). Over 70 miles a day in the mountains tends to take the fun out of it for me. I've had a few days that came real close to 100 miles and haven't really enjoyed a single one of those (anything over 90 and I end up asking myself "why am I doing this").

If you get more satisfaction out of reaching a goal, then I'd think your mileage goal is doable. But you think enjoying the journey and the sights is more important, then you might want to back down to something closer to 70-80 miles a day.

Also, if you are planning a multi-week tour you should probably plan for a down day once every week to 10 days.

Hope your plans work out
My motto for life: "It's all a part of the adventure"
Tim Cullip

General Discussion / Re: What's an 'average' day?
« Last post by jbennett on June 29, 2015, 05:42:17 pm »
Yes, I'm already planning a few trips between now and then.  Short 5-6 day trips.

Your input is valuable as I was hoping to average around 110 miles a day.  An average 100 mile ride for me takes between 5 and 6 hours, course depending. However, I understand that there's a lot to take into account so I wanted to do my research well in advance.

I was planning to be on the bike for around 8-10 hours a day, give or take.
Routes / Re: Dallas to Black Rock City, NV
« Last post by jbennett on June 29, 2015, 05:37:15 pm »
Yes, and it won't be my first time there, either.  I will be meeting up with my camp mates once there (with all of the rest of my gear).
Routes / Re: Dallas to Black Rock City, NV
« Last post by gnarlydog on June 29, 2015, 05:33:26 pm »
Are you going to Burning Man? Cuz that's the only time "black rock city" exists.
General Discussion / Re: What's an 'average' day?
« Last post by Pat Lamb on June 29, 2015, 04:28:48 pm »
Before I started touring, I saw a bunch of posts saying that the average touring speed was about 10 mph and the average daily ride was 40-60 miles.  I figured I was in much better shape than that, I could average 15 mph without much effort and finish 75 miles a day easily.

Then I started my first tour.  I fought it for a couple weeks, then relaxed as I averaged 10-11 mph, and rode 30-50 miles a day (in the Appalachians).  After a while I made it up to 60-70 miles a day.  My body could tolerate that kind of miles if it wsn't too hilly.  My overall average was a bit over 50 miles a day.  In subsequent tours, I'm comfortable with that kind of mileage.

You'll get guesses all over the place, from 30-40 to 80-100 miles a day.  YMMV.  If you're young, or if you're going to ride very light, you may be able to hit (or exceed!) my pre-tour goals.  It might be a good idea to plan a few weekends, or even a week-long tour, to see how you fare.
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