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Routes / Re: Southern Tier
« Last post by John Nettles on October 17, 2016, 08:40:31 pm »
If you mean is the ST paved, yes it is.  Also, since you are on a MTB bike, you might consider turning left at Roosevelt, AZ onto AZ-88 toward Apache.  It would make your ride a little longer and it does have some graded gravel but it has WAY less travel.  Do a google streetview to see what I mean.

Try to stay warm and I hope you enjoy the ride.  John
Routes / Re: Southern Tier
« Last post by Cyclokiwis on October 17, 2016, 06:15:37 pm »
We're currently coming down the Great Divide route and plan to intersect the Southern Tier and ride west to San Diego in late Nov/early Dec. Can anyone tell me if this route is all on paved roads, that are likely to be kept open through any early winter snow falls?
The construction is completed.  The new bridge opened last week.
We have received reports of a biting dog on Indian Ford Rd. Local cyclists have provided us with an alternate around the property where the dog lives.


Westbound detour: "... * 1(1.6)TURN RIGHT ONTO ABB PITTMAN RD. 4(6)TURN LEFT ONTO REMINGTON RD. IN 0.2 MI., TURN LEFT ONTO INDIAN FORD RD. ..." (subtract 1 mile from each of the remaining narratives)

Routes / Re: Great Rivers South in November/December
« Last post by Pat Lamb on October 17, 2016, 09:55:27 am »
Not too far from Tupelo, three things would concern me: temperature, rain, and daylight.

In reverse order: first of November, there's about 11 hours of daylight (probably good cycling for 9.5 hours) a day.  By the end of December, you're down to less than 8 hours of good cycling daylight.

Rain: October is our driest month (especially with the current drought!).  Probability of precipitation is going up from 30%/day, on average, to 50% per day.  November is when we transition from pop-up thunderstorms to powerful fronts coming in.

Temperature: Early November is great cycling weather, usually mid-40s to mid-60s.  Late December, not so much: how do you like cycling in frost in the mornings, with highs usually between 40 and 50?  It's tough commuting by bike then, since I end up having to bring home cold weather gear 2/3 of the time -- unless the temps are going down, then I wish I'd brought some more.  Proper equipment helps a lot, but on some days you're going to be spending a lot of time changing clothes...

Are you thinking of camping or B&B/motels?  Many of the campgrounds on the Natchez Trace will be closed, but a warm shower and toasty bed at the end of a long, cold day are great luxuries.

Edited to add: You probably won't have to worry about snow.  South of Tennessee, the snow removal plan is typically "wait 'til it melts."  And that plan only gets exercised every 3-4 years.
Routes / Re: Great Rivers South in November/December
« Last post by RussSeaton on October 17, 2016, 01:21:41 am »
I live about equal with Muscatine, Iowa.  Same north level.  Not sure if that is latitude or longitude.  November in Iowa usually has lows at night of 30s-40s.  And daytime highs of 30s to 50s.  Sometimes its warmer.  Or colder.  But count on upper 30s to upper 50s for all 24 hours.  If its a sunny day, its pleasant daytime riding weather.  But you still may want tights and a jacket and a long sleeve jersey.  You can get by without gloves usually.  But its not hot or really even warm.  Its OK in the sunshine.  From about Noon until 4PM its OK for riding in November at the northern end of your route.  You will have no problem doing the ride at this time of year.  But I am not sure it will be all that enjoyable weather wise.  You won't jump out of bed and say lets ride.  You will say, its chilly.  Brrrr.  From St. Louis south it will be nicer riding weather.  But the first week may not be too pleasant.
Routes / Great Rivers South in November/December
« Last post by argon on October 16, 2016, 11:20:24 pm »
I'm planning a cycle tour this Nov/Dec and one of the routes that really interests me is Great Rivers South. Will it be too cold by then? Any other routes of a similar or shorter length I should consider that are good at that time of year?
General Discussion / Food storage in the Arctic
« Last post by Venchka on October 16, 2016, 08:26:31 pm »
Ursack. 8 ounces. 2 sizes. 5-7 days of food. Available from Ursack, REI, etc. Approved by the Grizzly Bear folks in Montana.

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No worries. Detour to the Blue Ridge Parkway.

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Hello !
More than a month ago I cycled the World's hardest climb.  I've written a description about it and embed my trailer video in the middle of the description.   

Have pleasure it and thanks for watching !
Gábor Györgyi ( )

Mauna Kea (4205 m) is situated just at the opposite side of the Earth considering from Europe, but I think the Hilo – Mauna Kea ascent can be found on several cycloclimbers’ bucketlist, because based on the climbs’ collections and databases of and this is the hardest / toughest ascent of the world for a road bike (?) or touring bike. Its difficulty score is 1,5 times higher than the Alps’ hardest paved climb (Grosser Oscheniksee) and 2 times higher than the Ovaro climb of Monte Zoncolan or the climb of Angliru !
During the 69 km long ascent You have to climb 4192 m heightdifference and in the last few kms the less oxygen makes is harder (those who attempt this ascent they need acclimatisation!). In the last 20 kms the cyclist has to climb 2000 m heightdifference, 7 kms of it has no pavement, but that is dirt road with sand where the tires sink several times. Because of the dirt road section many cyclists suggest to use min 32 mm wide tires if You don’t plan to change the bike by the start of the dirt road, at the Visitor Center. I used 32 mm wide Schwalbe Marathon tires.
There is another thing that makes the climb hard: after leaving the beach of Hilo, the next place to get water, buy snack, etc. is situated 55 kms farther at the height of 2800 m. That’s the reason that several cyclists that cycled up to the summit suggest those wh would like to cycle up to have support car that carries the food, water, drink and clothes for the descent (if descending would start in the evening).
Those who would like to cycle up without support need to carry min. 4-5 liters of water / drink by the start. (I did it this way.)
Mauna Kea is considered the tallest mountain of the Earth, because if we measure it from its bottom (can be found under the ocean), it’s heightdifference is more than Mount Everest’s or any other high mountains’ heightdifference. The volcano is situated in the Big island of the Hawaii islands next to the other high volcano, Mauna Loa that is one of the active volcanoes of the World and produces lava-flow every day.
The start of the ascent can be found by the beach of Hilo which is considered one of the most rainiest places of the Earth. There are several observatories at the summit; it is said the summit offers one of the most clear, best opportunities for star-watching or stargazing. By sunset several cars drive up for enjoy the perfect sunset.
Only one ascent goes up to the top, but there are two places to start: the longer begins at the sunnier, hotter Kona side and the other (69 km long) starts at the rainier, Hilo side.

(text is finished under the video and coverphoot of the video)
VIDEO can be seen here =

During the several hour / one day long ascent the weather and the plants change several times: by the Hilo side it starts along with wonderful flowers and huge trees and than it changes for a cloudy, humid section. The eastern climb, starting at the Kona side begins along hot lava fields. The middle section can be sunny and cloudy too ( I have both) and the summit is usually clear, sunny, but as the Sun goes down it could be cold (only few degrees celsius above zero).
At last a subjective opinion: why this climb is considered to be the hardest climb of the World ?
Reaching the Visitor Center (2800 m) the cyclist feels / shoudl feel only a little bit tired, but after starting the dirt road section the lack of oxygen, the fact that the tires several times sink in the sand and the dirt road is sometimes 13-15% (once 20%) steep increase tiredness. Reaching the paved road again (at 3554 m) the cyclist has to climb more than 650 m heightdifference on sometimes 12-14% steep road which feels as it would be ca. 18% steep because of the less oxygen and if the cyclist gets headwind (I got) than it could be is very-very hard!

(Monte Zoncolan „offers” 1055 m heightdifference for the last ca. 8 kms (avg. 13,1%), here You can feel ca. similar difficulty in the last 8-10 kms, but when You reach that last section You already had 3100-3200 m heightdifference in your legs.
Big island offers another long and high finishing ascent: that goes up on the mountain of Mauna Loa, but on that road You can’t cycle up to the summit; the road ends under 3400 m and the view is much more less spectacular than at the summit of Mauna Kea and the ascent is not so hard than the other.
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