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General Discussion / Re: Quick fixes for cyclist's palsy?
« Last post by bogiesan on August 28, 2014, 11:00:08 pm »
Get a recumbent.

The various forms of nerve stress and possible damage are not easily diagnosed, as your research indicated. Far too many individual factors and there's no way for a doctor to see what's going on with your nerves. However, a good sports-specific MD can assess your bike and your riding position and, based on your symptoms, make a pretty good guess about what might prevent it next time.

while I know people who are enamored of bike fit shops, those proprietors usually are working on standard forms. They' generally not physical therapists.

That's where I'd start but the guy I see is a marathoner and tri. He understands bikes. He even understands my recumbent.

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General Discussion / Re: importance of componentry
« Last post by DaveB on August 28, 2014, 09:54:53 pm »
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Also, those "Dura Ace" barends are intended more for time trial bikes aero bars than for touring use.  Again, Dura Ace isn't bought by tourists.

We have three touring bikes in the house with Shimano SL-BS77 Dura-Ace 7700 Bar End Shifters (9 speed), one of which just got upgraded to 9 speed this year.  Bruce Gordon used them on his bikes for years, I don't know what he is using currently.  The shifters work very well on our touring bikes (22-32-44, 11-32).  I don't have any experience with the 10 speed version.
You are not the main market for Shimano's 9 and 10-speed barends.  Yes they work fine and are suitable for your use but if it had to rely on the touring market, Shimano would have dropped them long ago.
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General Discussion / Re: importance of componentry
« Last post by tsteven4 on August 28, 2014, 08:17:00 pm »
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Also, those "Dura Ace" barends are intended more for time trial bikes aero bars than for touring use.  Again, Dura Ace isn't bought by tourists.

We have three touring bikes in the house with Shimano SL-BS77 Dura-Ace 7700 Bar End Shifters (9 speed), one of which just got upgraded to 9 speed this year.  Bruce Gordon used them on his bikes for years, I don't know what he is using currently.  The shifters work very well on our touring bikes (22-32-44, 11-32).  I don't have any experience with the 10 speed version.
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General Discussion / Quick fixes for cyclist's palsy?
« Last post by Jblizard on August 28, 2014, 08:06:21 pm »
I just finished my cross-country tour (also my first tour)! Hurray, feeling accomplished, excited to do more touring in the future, but I'm having hand issues.

On the tour, my left hand pinky and ring finger went numb, and stayed numb for the duration of the tour. I did some research online and found out that people call this cyclist's palsy and that it usually goes away, but sometimes takes weeks to fully fade. This is scaring me, because I study classical guitar at a conservatory, and I need my hands when I go back to school.

Right now, I'm trying to figure out if there are any ways to speed up the recovery and get my fingers back to fully functional. I'm currently wearing a sling, trying not to use the hand/arm unless absolutely necessary, and trying to stretch it regularly, but I don't know if it's better to rest it or try to strengthen the muscles by using it.

As for future tours, I know that I need better padding on my bars, as well as to raise my bars so my hands are above my pelvis, but if anyone has other advice for preventing numbness in the future, that would also be appreciated. This tour made my certain that I want to do other tours in the future, but I can't risk losing feeling in my hands like this again.

Thanks!
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Gear Talk / Re: trikes
« Last post by TCS on August 28, 2014, 07:02:40 pm »
Yes, I've seen them as parts getters in industrial plants and for shopping transportation in retirement communities but i've never seen on on the road.  A combination of weight and odd handling and limited cornering ability are major disadvantages.

Click on some of the above links for lightweight racing versions.

Trikes 'oddly handlinng and limitedly cornering' at a rainy world championship a few years back.
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General Discussion / Riding on the US Interstates
« Last post by rogermcd on August 28, 2014, 06:59:00 pm »
Have a look at this page in Crazyguyonabike. http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/doc/2616

Washington most certainly does not allow cyclists on  the interstates except where an alternative  route does not exist


I still maintain that whether to use the interstate or not should be up to the cyclist and not a bureaucrat.
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General Discussion / Re: importance of componentry
« Last post by DaveB on August 28, 2014, 05:44:28 pm »
Unfortunately Shimano no longer makes triples, but they do make Dura Ace bar end (showing Dura Ace is not only race componentry). So to me that suggests the the newer gear with thinner chains was not up to touring (hopefully just yet), and they will some day. Maybe just a pipe dream, but I may wish to buy another touring bike and sure would like Dura Ace.
Shimano does indeed make triples, they just don't make them in groups their experiences tells them don't sell to tourists.   The 105 FC-5703 is a triple and has a 74 mm BCD for the granny ring so it will take down to a 24T chainring and several of their MTB and Trekking cranks are available as suitable triples.  Also, those "Dura Ace" barends are intended more for time trial bikes aero bars than for touring use.  Again, Dura Ace isn't bought by tourists.

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General Discussion / Re: importance of componentry
« Last post by JDFlood on August 28, 2014, 05:30:08 pm »
Choosing the right componentry is important and it depends on your personality and your means. I enjoy high performance componentry, to me it adds to the enjoyment of touring. Hence, if I chose a middle of the line components, I will quickly begin to wonder if the more expensive one would perform better and end up buying both. So, for me it would be a stupid decision to go middle of the road. This is how I discovered the difference between Ultegra and Dura ace. I got a nice standard bike (with Ultegra) while I was waiting for my custom bike to be built (with Dura ace). So, I ended up riding them alternatively. The cranks flexed less, the shifting was significantly smoother and quicker, etc. So, I put Dura Ace triples on all my touring bikes, and I am reminded how much better they perform every time I get on one of the bikes (either the Ultegra or Dura Ace). So, I agree, get on with riding, but if you are like me, then get the best componentry possible, because it is nearly forever (I ride around 5,000 miles a year spread across 8 bikes). If cost is your highest consideration, choose something else. This is one of the reason forums are here, so people with different perspectives can voice their opinion and a reader can pick which paradigm to relate to.

On a side note;
Unfortunately Shimano no longer makes triples, but they do make Dura Ace bar end (showing Dura Ace is not only race componentry). So to me that suggests the the newer gear with thinner chains was not up to touring (hopefully just yet), and they will some day. Maybe just a pipe dream, but I may wish to buy another touring bike and sure would like Dura Ace.
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General Discussion / Re: Riding on the US Interstates
« Last post by JDFlood on August 28, 2014, 05:04:22 pm »
I live in the state of Washington and used to live in Arizona. They both allow riding on the Interstate, and on occasion when I am really in a hurry I do ride on them. But it is miserable with the noise and differential velocity with cars and trucks. I agree is should be legal everywhere. But there are so  many better causes to fight for, doesn't seem to be worth the effort. That is my personal feeling. I guess especially since I don't remember being in a state that prohibited it.
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Routes / Re: Great Divide Rooseville, MT to Helena, MT
« Last post by Iowagriz on August 28, 2014, 02:35:33 pm »
From my recent trip from Roosville to Ovando.

30miles of pave from Roosville, through Eureka and up the pass
54miles of pave from head of Whitefish Lake to just south of Bigfork (headed up Swan Mtn).  A few miles of gravel within this number, but not much.
Another mile or so of Hwy near Holland Lake Lodge

The rest of it was dirt.

I also believe you have a few miles of pave in Ovando, in Lincoln and then as you exit just west of Helena, you will have maybe 10 miles of pave to get into Helena.

Tom
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