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General Discussion / Re: trikes
« Last post by indyfabz on November 29, 2016, 04:21:31 pm »
Back in June in MT I encountered a guy riding the TransAm on a trike pulling what looked to be a heavily-loaded trailer. First saw him west of Darby and then again in Jackson so he had clearly done some mountains. Don't know anything specific about his ride, but the gearing did look very low, and the two times I saw him moving he did appear to be going slowly.
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General Discussion / Re: trikes
« Last post by DaveB on November 29, 2016, 04:14:13 pm »
Trikes are slow.
...and heavy.  I wonder if a low gear in the low 20 gear-inch is low enough for serious touring.  There are no balance problems no matter how slow you go and you can't stand up to use your body weight over the cranks so you might as well be geared to take advantage of the benefits and compensate for the drawbacks.
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General Discussion / Re: trikes
« Last post by John Nelson on November 29, 2016, 04:01:07 pm »
Trikes are slow.
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Gear Talk / Re: trailers vs panniers
« Last post by John Nelson on November 29, 2016, 03:59:48 pm »
Here's my specific/aggressive advice: Use panniers.
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Gear Talk / Re: Recommendation for front light?
« Last post by jwrushman on November 29, 2016, 02:25:58 pm »
Driftlessregion, thanks for your input.  I've already got a phone mount attached at my stem cap.  I might be able to use the handle bar cap extension, but my Surly Disk Trucker has bar end shifters it might interfere with.
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Toured for two weeks recently camping in parks. Every time we stopped at a diner for breakfast and pie we charged our lights. Left them overnight in some campground rest rooms charging. Check the owner's manuals for run times; they vary widely and you'll want the mode that lasts the longest.
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Gear Talk / Re: Recommendation for front light?
« Last post by driftlessregion on November 29, 2016, 02:11:59 pm »
There are many options for mounting a light up front starting with these at Adventure Cycling https://www.adventurecycling.org/cyclosource-store/gifts-under-30/sp/paul-components-gino-light-mount/ and
https://www.adventurecycling.org/cyclosource-store/search-results/sp/paul-components-stem-cap-light-mount/
Minoura also makes this T shaped device http://www.minoura.jp/english/accessory-e/sg400-e.html and this bar end holder
http://www.minoura.jp/english/accessory/lightholder/lma-h.html.
I've used them all, they all work. I like the stem cap mount because it gets it up above the handlebar bag but only works on
the bike with threadless headset. The other bikes either have the bar end or the T mount. I didn't like the axle mount because I couldn't turn on/off the light on the fly and one the bike with a front rack it didn't fit well.
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Gear Talk / Re: trailers vs panniers
« Last post by canalligators on November 29, 2016, 01:08:19 pm »
staehpj1 summarizes it well.

Another factor is the terrain.  We use the trailer (BOB) in flat land for longer tours, when tandem/motel touring.  For shorter tours and mountainous terrain, we use panniers to reduce weight.  For solo touring, I might use the BOB even for mountain riding; it worked well for me in the Adirondacks.

I made a canvas bag for packing the trailer on Amtrak.
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General Discussion / Re: trikes
« Last post by canalligators on November 29, 2016, 12:59:45 pm »
I hear the same concern about being seen, regarding my two-wheeled recumbent.  The only time that being seen is a problem is in city traffic.

You want to get a machine that's good for touring.  Trikes generally are well suited.  Apply the same criteria as you would for any touring bike:
- Comfort, comfort, comfort
- Geared low enough (aim for low-20s gear-inches)
- Able to carry your desired load
- Handles well at very low speed
- Handles well at mountain pass descent speeds

Trikes are generally very good at most of these.  I have heard that some handle funny at very high speeds.  But I listed these in order of importance.

You might also consider a two-wheeled recumbent.  Be sure to test them with a load, though.  Some of them handle very well with a load, some do not.  My current bike handles well, loaded, at 3 mi/hr.  It also handles like a dream at 40+ mi/hr.  My previous recumbent got squirrely at 30+ or below five.  A long wheelbase bike I tested was marvelous by itself at 3 mi/hr but could not be controlled with a BOB trailer attached at that speed.

Short answer: try out lots of bikes, with loads attached.  I guess you could say the same for diamond frames.
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Gear Talk / Re: trailers vs panniers
« Last post by staehpj1 on November 29, 2016, 12:14:05 pm »
Thanks, everybody, for trying, but not not much help. I've done tons of research, but was hoping my fellow ACA folks could be more specific/aggressive in their advice.
So, sigh, I'll go to trial and error.
OK then, so here is my "more specific/aggressive advice"...  Unless you have specific requirements or preferences for using one forget the trailer.  Far more people tour with panniers many are heavier than you and carry fairly heavy loads.

There is nothing about your weight that makes a trailer an especially good option unless there are particular reasons that you prefer a trailer.  People tour on tandem bikes and there are not many tandem teams that don't weigh more than you.  So I advise packing reasonably light and using panniers.  If you are a  minimalist ultralight packer, then even the panniers could possibly be overkill.

Consider the need to ship or fly with your trailer to and from your tour start or finish.  For me that is a fiarly significant reason not to use one.

OTOH, there actually are a few special reasons why you might go to a trailer...  Travelling with a lot of heavy and or bulky gear.  Riding a very lightly built bike with more load than you want to carry on it.  Riding a mountain bike and wanting to be able to unhook the load quickly to go trail riding unladen.

Bottom line most folks use panniers and are better off for it.
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