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GPS Discussion / Re: PN-60
« Last post by kdc19561954 on September 11, 2014, 12:49:52 am »
Thanks Pat

Think I will give it a try my self.
GPS Discussion / Re: New Garmin Edge Touring
« Last post by kdc19561954 on September 11, 2014, 12:41:22 am »
Well I do have the Garmin Edge Touring and the Garmin 810 but the Touring is the best for touring you can up date it and it does up date the maps as well it is very easy to use and so is the Garmin 810 I like both of them a lot.
Temporary ACA Route Road Closures / Re: Great Divide, Section 3, Maps A&B – 2014
« Last post by mthompson on September 10, 2014, 05:24:34 pm »
Thanks for that info Nicolai!   

We got another report that the construction area of SR 71/Sage Creek Rd. is nearly impassable if it has rained.  So consider taking the reroute if it has been wet.
I confirm the road is open, and it seems it will remain that way. Construction continues though.
Classifieds / Re: Surly Krampus or ECR Large
« Last post by fellowtraveler on September 10, 2014, 09:51:22 am »
There was a fellow on Mid-West Velo Swap or Fat Bike Trader, both Facebook groups, selling a large ECR cheap.  $1450 I believe.  He was in Iowa.  You might check it out.
The Lamine River bridge on SR 41 between Lamine and Boonville MO is being replaced during Spring/Summer 2014. In the meantime a (EB) detour exists by leaving SR 41 about 5 mi NW of Lamine and following CR K, CR M and other frontage roads along the I-70 corridor to rejoin the route on Santa Fe Trail west of Boonville. For WB riders, simply reverse directions. These roads have all been confirmed as being viable options for biking based on the MO DOT bike route maps, though cyclists may experience higher traffic flows because of the bridge closure.

Google Maps link for detour:
Bridge replacement project website:
MO DOT bike route maps:

Nathan Taylor
GIS Specialist/Cartographer
Adventure Cycling Association
Routes / Re: Columbia Gorge Bridges - Portland to Walla Walla
« Last post by adventurepdx on September 09, 2014, 02:05:10 pm »
The Hood River Bridge is strictly off-limits to bicycles. All the other crossings are open to cyclists, as far as I know. The freeway bridges should have a bike path on them, like I-82/Umatilla Bridge.
General Discussion / Re: Can scooters ride the routes?
« Last post by DaveB on September 09, 2014, 10:17:12 am »
Motorized scooters come in a huge range of power and ability these days.  The slow, smoky two-stroke Vespas of the past have been replaced with similar, low power 4-stroke models with a top speed of maybe 35 - 40 mph up to 650cc 30+ HP models with top speeds near 100 mph.   "Slow" doesn't mean what it used to. 
General Discussion / Re: Can scooters ride the routes?
« Last post by staehpj1 on September 09, 2014, 06:27:46 am »
I think the OP is using bike "route" and "path" interchangeably.
That is my impression also.  I don't think she is planning to ride on bike paths.  I think she is referring to AC routes as bike parhs.

Motorized bicycles, bikes with a motor driving one of the wheels, are a different matter.

In many places motorized bicycles are not a different matter and are also banned from bike paths.  Probably varies with location though.  Personally I agree with sbear55 that if it has a motor it isn't a bike and many jurisdictions treat it as such wrt bike paths.

I do think that AC routes are for the most part pretty suitable for someone wanting to ride a scooter.  They may have short sections of interstate of bike path in them but in the case of the bike paths I have always seen a reasonable alternate route.  Just me, but...  On the relatively rare fairly short section of interstate where there is no alternative, I'd be willing to take a chance with riding the shoulder on the interstate.
General Discussion / Re: Can scooters ride the routes?
« Last post by briwasson on September 08, 2014, 09:46:48 pm »
I think the OP is using bike "route" and "path" interchangeably. I'm curious: where are you from Melanie? In Europe small scooters and mopeds are allowed on bike paths in some countries (Netherlands for example).
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