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GPS Discussion / Re: How to maximize ease of staying on course of an ACA route
« Last post by DanE on February 02, 2016, 04:35:02 pm »
" I've seen GPS wars -- two different units, even identical units, give opposite directions"

This is usually a result of having different selections in the setup. One unit could be set up to navigate based on shortest distance and the other set up to navigate based on shortest time. It could also be what type of features one has selected to avoid in navigation such as avoid highways. Different maps can also produce slightly different routes as well, such as someone might have the Garmin maps and another unit has something like Openfietmap or some such. Unfortunately, modern items can make things easier as well as making them complicated.
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GPS Discussion / Re: How to maximize ease of staying on course of an ACA route
« Last post by John Nelson on February 02, 2016, 04:23:22 pm »
I do not use a GPS, but I certainly would if somebody gave me one and I could figure out how to put the route into it. I do find that it is a bit of a stress worrying about where that next turn is, and I've missed it more than once.

My non-GPS mitigation is to make notes on a 3x5 index card each day identifying what mileage on my bike computer will be at each turn. At least that way I know how far I am going before I need to worry about looking for the next turn. It's not perfect, but it helps. At least I don't need to read every road sign for miles and miles in case it is the turn I want.
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FYI...On another forum some people reported mixed success with on line registration. At least one person had to try more than once before successfully registering. Another person reported nothing happening when he tried to register. You might have to give it more than one try if it doesn't work the first time.
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Per ODOT, chip sealing/bridge repair project will take place sometime mid-June through September on 30 miles of US 26 between intersection with SR 19 and Mt. Vernon. Flaggers and pilot cars will be directing traffic through the work zone. Plan extra time to ride through the area. Once underway, the project should take about 3 weeks to complete.

See ODOT's media release (attached) for more info. And be sure to check the ODOT website for status as project date nears: http://www.tinyurl.com/odot-region5

Nathan Taylor
ACA Cartographer
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GPS Discussion / Re: How to maximize ease of staying on course of an ACA route
« Last post by staehpj1 on February 02, 2016, 11:55:05 am »
ask the locals  (although they rarely know anything about their own area!)
That reminds me...  It is kind of amazing how often local folks have no idea of distances.  Ditto for elevation changes and whether on not there is a ride-able shoulder.

Big rig truckers and farmers on the other hand seem to provide accurate and detailed info.

Local, "It is exactly 20 miles and flat the whole way".

Trucker describing the same road, "Don't hold me to this, but it is about 27.3 miles.  It is flat for the first 10 miles or so, ten rolls for a while and finishes with a two mile climb."  They might even add, "There is a swimming hole about 12.5 miles out at the red river."

Typically the trucker will be spot on down to the tenth of a mile.
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GPS Discussion / Re: How to maximize ease of staying on course of an ACA route
« Last post by johnsondasw on February 02, 2016, 11:39:27 am »
I have generally found the AC routes to be so easy to follow that I leave my dedicated GPS home.  I do sometimes use my smart phone for directions to a particular stop, service, or attraction.

I have used an etrex for an on/off road tour and it worked out well.  Personally though I found it a lot more trouble to program in the route, deal with batteries, and so on than it is worth on most routes especially if you will be on the road only.

I have never used GPS.  I like Pete's advise.  Use maps, intuition, ask the locals  (although they rarely know anything about their own area!), get lost on occasion; it's all part of the adventure.  I really think many of us are way too hung up on gadgets and electronics.  I'm such a dinosaur that I still don't use my own earphones at the gym or out on a walk, etc!
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FYI - the Feb. 1 date has been changed to March 1, 2016. Here is the information we recently added to the online addenda for the Pacific Coast Section 5 map:

"Beginning March 1, 2016, Camp Pendleton will require cyclists be pre-registered to gain access to and ride across the base. The registration process may be completed online and is good for 1 year, a valid U.S. or State Identification Card is required. Non-U.S. citizens will require a sponsor. A sponsor should be someone known to a rider. Sponsors have the responsibly to vouch for those they are requesting to gain access to this military facility. More information and a link to register online can be found on the base website: www.pendleton.marines.mil/About/BaseInformation/BaseAccess.aspx

It is up to each cyclist to determine their eligibility for entering the base by contacting the Base Access office: Base Access Control (760) 763-7604/7605; 6AM-4PM Monday-Thursday (closed Fridays); mcbcampensponsoredvisitor@usmc.mil

For cyclists who do not register in advance or who are not eligible to receive access to the base, you may legally ride on the shoulder of I-5 between Las Pulgas Rd. and Oceanside (Exits 62 to 54). For safety reasons, cyclists should exit and re-enter the freeway at the Aliso Creek Rest Area about midway through this stretch.
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Routes / Re: Northern Tier questions
« Last post by indyfabz on February 02, 2016, 09:47:34 am »
There wasn't much room on 1804 when we did it in '99. I also remember some big rollers heading east from Williston. If traffic is as bad as they say it is, and I have no reason to doubt it is, I would definitely avoid that road.

BTW...I work in the rail biz. We are still getting Bakken crude trains moving through Philadelphia and a regular basis. You often see them a BNSF locomotive in the lead. Long way from home.
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GPS Discussion / Re: How to maximize ease of staying on course of an ACA route
« Last post by staehpj1 on February 02, 2016, 09:45:22 am »
I have generally found the AC routes to be so easy to follow that I leave my dedicated GPS home.  I do sometimes use my smart phone for directions to a particular stop, service, or attraction.

I have used an etrex for an on/off road tour and it worked out well.  Personally though I found it a lot more trouble to program in the route, deal with batteries, and so on than it is worth on most routes especially if you will be on the road only.
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GPS Discussion / Re: How to maximize ease of staying on course of an ACA route
« Last post by Pat Lamb on February 01, 2016, 10:10:30 pm »
With luck, a GPS with routing and turn warnings may let you ride without looking at the maps.  If the route is correct, if the batteries are working, if the GPS doesn't lock up.

Are there enough wiggle words in there?

I've ridden brevets where my GPS stopped working, and took a fair bit of fiddling to get it back on track (vs. giving me "get on the interstate to get to the finish" routes).  I've seen GPS wars -- two different units, even identical units, give opposite directions, until you get off route and see the infamous "make a U-turn" direction.  I"ve gotten confused between the route I should be on and the bright road marking of the major road I was on.  On the other hand, with a unit that's running well and fully charged, night riding is even more pleasant, since it alerts you coming up to a turn.

Get a GPS, if you wish, and give it a trial.  Plan a long training ride, preferably on some roads you're not terribly familiar with, and see how you and it get along.  Does it alert you in time to make the turn without overshooting?  Does it tell you not to go down a farmer's driveway where the road turns?  Bottom line, do you think it'll work for you?
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