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General Discussion / Re: What to do with a bike box?
« Last post by John Nelson on August 21, 2016, 07:47:55 pm »
Yes, but finding a bike shop and getting a bike box from them in Seattle is going to be pretty easy.
Routes / Re: Why does the PC route bypass Olympic Peninsula?
« Last post by cgarch on August 21, 2016, 06:42:53 pm »
Interesting discussion. I too have ridden both Lake Crescent (2009) and 112-113 (2014) and chipped in with comments as appropriate in this forum. We've been spending a lot of time in that area in the last 6-7 years and love riding in the area. I'm surprised to not see any mention of the Olympic Discovery Trail ( as an alternative route. [I have issues with the ODT around Sequim but that's another matter.] Sure the two tunnels are not open yet, but when they are, avoiding Lake Crescent will be a no brainer. The west end at Lake Crescent is paved and looks pretty sweet. The stretch from PA out to Joyce is darn nice as well. It's just the gap between the two . .  As to the nature of traffic along Lake Crescent it certainly is no worse, and in my mind, a whole lot better, than riding through Sea Ranch in CA where there has been no upgrade on CA 1 since Sea Ranch was built. And yes, the clearcuts in the area suck and do detract from both routes. YMMV.

Since we've traveled to Port Townsend several times in the last three years, we've driven the stretch along Hood Canal - other than the proximity of campgrounds I wouldn't take it over the peninsula route - way more traffic (and fast) and so-so shoulders. Certainly scenic enough.

Count me in the camp that favors riding the Peninsula and taking in the side trips, if you can. The part that does rub me the wrong way is the lack of HB camping sites at both Kalaloch and Hoh (not to mention a lack of showers). Sure would like to see ACA put some pressure on the Park Service on this. Riding 18 miles one way from 101 to the Hoh to not find a camping spot is not acceptable.

Santa Rosa, CA

Addendum: see this for trail status

Of note from that page is this:
Hwy 112 and Lake Crescent to Cooper Ranch Rd

Work is continuing along the Waterline Route, which will connect from Hwy 112, via Gossett Rd, to the East Beach trailhead on Lake Crescent. Current effort is on opening the section of old RR grade from the south end of Gossett Rd to the Waterline Road. When completed this will become the ODT route, replacing the temporary Joyce-Piedmont Rd. route. (posted July, 2015)

The Spruce RR segment construction is now complete from East Beach Trailhead to the old RR grade, except for paving. Paving will be the final step when all construction is complete, about 2018-19. The trail is open now, and users can connect through to SolDuc Rd and beyond using the old (rough) single track path through the tunnel area. This section will be closed summer 2016 for construction through the first tunnel. Specific closure dates will be posted here when available. (posted Jan 2016)

The 2 mile connecting segment, from the Hwy 101 crossing west of SolDuc Rd to the SolDuc bridge, has completed design and should be in construction summer 2016. In the meantime, use the shoulders of Hwy 101 and the 2918 Rd to connect between existing trail segments.

The trail from the 2918 Road (Sol Duc Bridge) to Cooper Ranch Rd Trailhead will be subject to temporary closures between May 12 and about Sept 1 2016, due to selective logging adjacent to the trail and some hauling on the shared (wide) section of the trail. Closures will be posted at both ends of this section and trail users can detour by using the shoulders of Hwy 101 between the FS 2918 road and Cooper Ranch Rd. There will be no closures on weekends or Federal holidays. (Posted May 2016)

Major construction work has been announced for Hwy 101 along the south shore of Lake Crescent for 2017 and 2018. We do not expect any significant widening but the shoulder paving should be repaired. There will be periods of closure of Hwy 101 with traffic rerouted to Hwy 112. These may coincide with closure of the trail on the north shore as part of the tunnel reconstruction, in which case the bike alternate will have to be Hwy 112 (there is no other way through). Closure dates for both will be posted here as they are announced. (posted May 2015)
Gear Talk / Re: Fixing panniers
« Last post by staehpj1 on August 21, 2016, 05:53:56 pm »
Gorilla Tape works far better than ordinary duck tape.
Gorilla tape is good stuff, but other tape can be good too.  There are a lot of grades of duct tape.  The 3M stuff that comes in colors from Lowes or Home Depot is decent stuff.  Most but not all of the silver stuff is garbage.

I think Gorilla tape or the color 3M stuff are both great for pannier repair.
Gear Talk / Re: Fixing panniers
« Last post by canalligators on August 21, 2016, 02:44:21 pm »
Gorilla Tape works far better than ordinary duck tape.
General Discussion / Re: Trans am route, map or gpx Garmin.
« Last post by Soulboy#1 on August 21, 2016, 04:46:10 am »
Hi there, thanks for the reply. What other stuff on the maps did you find to be the most helpful?

Thanks in advance

The maps contain extremely useful services information.
General Discussion / Re: Trans am route, map or gpx Garmin.
« Last post by Soulboy#1 on August 21, 2016, 04:45:21 am »
Thanks for all of this information mate it's much appreciated. Do people sell there trans am maps after their trips? I'd only figured that a gpx file on my Garmin would help but like you say it wouldn't give all the other additional information?
General Discussion / Re: What to do with a bike box?
« Last post by Soulboy#1 on August 21, 2016, 04:37:56 am »
Thank you to everyone who has replied in here. I'll be heading east to west so I'm assuming I would need to find a bike store (Sesttle area) to get a bike box from for my trip back to London?
Food Talk / Re: to cook or not to cook?
« Last post by johnsondasw on August 20, 2016, 02:24:25 pm »
Like others, I like to tour both ways.  With the new Jetboil system and freeze-dried meals, cooking takes way less time than going to a restaurant.  I use it for backpacking, and the water boils in 2 minutes, then you have to wait a little for the mixture to "cure"--10 or 15 minutes, which can be used for other camping chores. Also, there are no pans to carry. And with oatmeal/PB/fruit, breakfast is done in a jiffy, too. Again , no pan, as the oats are poured into the boiled water in the cup provided as part of the unit.  It all packs up neatly and weighs little.  (No, I have no financial interest in the technology.  I'm just amazed at the difference 45 years has made--we used to have frying pans, cans of gas, pan scrubbers, etc, etc....)  Because of this simplicity, I will now cook more than in the past, when it was a real chore.
Food Talk / Re: to cook or not to cook?
« Last post by Pat Lamb on August 19, 2016, 10:13:57 pm »
My preference is to go to a restaurant, diner, etc. for breakfast and supper.  Lunch can be a hamburger or sandwich, or something picked up earlier on the trip -- an apple, a bit of cheese, and maybe some sausage or tuna on crackers is fine dining in the right surroundings (like under a tree 30 miles from the nearest diner).

It's probably a good idea to have some plans for the occasional meal-in-the-woods even if you plan not to cook.  There are places where there's nothing to eat where you may be forced to stop for the night, either by weather, fatigue, or the dreaded too-many-flats-to-get-there day.
There is road construction on I-80 between Sinclair and Walcott.  Diverted traffic is leaving very little or no shoulder.
We have heard reports that where construction is not active cyclists are being allowed through the construction lanes.  However, this does not apply where construction is active. 
Unfortunately, there is no good re-route around this area.  We recommend trying to find a ride through the construction zone. 

For more information on current construction conditions see this link:

Contact phone numbers can be found there as well.
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