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Routes / Re: Seattle to Logan, UT
« Last post by CMajernik on September 04, 2014, 12:29:02 pm »
It will depend on which roads you are using. Interstates and major U.S. and state highways are almost always plowed during and after snow storms. But there are roads over passes that are closed for the winter. For example, southeast of Mt. Rainier, Hwy. 410 is closed in the winter, but U.S. 12 is open. You will have to check on state DOT websites to confirm. I think that mid-April could be a good time to leave Seattle, but be prepared for rain/snow at any higher elevations. And if a storm blows through you might have to wait a day before continuing your journey.
Gear Talk / Re: Straight up Noob bike/gear advice.
« Last post by DaveB on September 04, 2014, 09:50:02 am »
I've never heard of "AWOL" bikes but you absolutely must buy a bike from a decent bike shop or REI, NOT from a department store or Xmart.  Trek, Specialized, Cannondale, Fuji, or other well established brands and REI's house brand should all be available in the type you need and be reliable.

As Pat recommended, go to a shop that will fit you properly and is willing to make changes to dial in the correct dimensions.  A touring or similar bike will be far more suitable than an ultralight carbon frame racing bike.

Finally, ride quite a bit before embarking on your trip.  You need to get used to hours in the saddle and to handle the bike.   
Gear Talk / Re: Straight up Noob bike/gear advice.
« Last post by Pat Lamb on September 04, 2014, 09:36:02 am »
Some answers to all your questions can be found at  (If you don't like those answers, ask the questions again and somebody will argue with everything that's written there!)

Fit is critical on a bike where your hands, feet, and seat are going to be fixed for 4-10 hours every day when you're riding.  REIs vary; some may have people who know how to fit a bike to you, others will say, "looks like you have enough room there, you're good to go."  Run away from the latter.

As a substitute for a professional fit, people who've been riding a fair bit can test ride a bike for a bit and get a good feel for whether the bike "feels" right or not.  Since you're not in this class, you probably need a good fit.  Try to test ride the bikes you're interested in for 3-5 miles, minimum, anyway.

One good thing about REI is that many of them have at least two or three models of touring bikes you can try.  Touring bikes are a very good idea if you're carrying the load on the bike; if you're using a trailer, it's not so critical.

Don't get hung up on carrying too much gear.  You're only a day's ride away from parts with mail order and ovenight delivery.  You do need to be able to repair flat tires, and it's a good idea to be able to replace a set of brake pads.  For everything else, duck tape or thumb into town and pull out a credit card.
Classifieds / Salsa Fargo 2 2013 For sale LOW PRICE LOWER PRICE
« Last post by pscovolo on September 04, 2014, 02:15:18 am »
I am selling my 2013 salsa fargo 2 with regular handle bar and original as well, this is a Medium size, good condition, new tires, I am in Marina del rey California (los angeles area)
asking price  $1200 or OBO,  I dont know how to post a pics of it, If  You would like to see pics just send me an E mail.
Sorry about it
Routes / Any thoughts on our patchwork alternative to the Sierra Cascades route?
« Last post by gillianpatrice on September 04, 2014, 01:52:13 am »
Howdy y'all

Was hoping for some advice from the Forums. In a nutshell I've been roughly circumnavigating the states on and off for the past 3 or so years. I've done OR to NY, to GA, and presently I'm residing in Austin TX for a total of a little over 8,000 touring miles. For most of the trip I've imagined I would complete the loop back to Oregon on the Sierra Cascades Route. Of course plans are constantly in flux and I've picked up a touring companion here in Texas. This will be her first tour and I want to make sure that its a good one. We're planning on leaving spring 2015 so we've started doing research already. It looks like the cascades route would be challenging even for an experienced tourist and definitely not the right track for someone on their first go. From what I've gathered it's mostly intense climbing and/or descending all day with logging traffic thrown in. I'm aware that going north on the Pacific Coast route is also highly not recommended. So, this is what I'm thinkin'...

Austin TX to Wickenburg AZ on the Southern tier
Cedar City, UT via the Grand Canyon Connector
East to Dolores/Durango, CO on the Western Express (I know, we're going the wrong way)
North to Walden, CO on Great Parks South and/or Transamerica
Staying on that route until Missoula, MT
Connecting to the Northern Tier via Great Parks North
West to Anacortes, WA
South on the Pacific Coast to Astoria

We have no time restrictions, and are budgeting on having a pretty good traveling pot together. I'm looking for comments from folks who have done the Sierra Cascades (not many from what I've seen on here) and people who've ridden these other particular stretches. Are we going out of the way for not a big deal? or is this going to be the more pleasurable scenic route for my partner and I? Any suggestions for sights/smells/tastes/feels along either route? I'd sure appreciate any info! 

Gear Talk / Straight up Noob bike/gear advice.
« Last post by ThatOutdoorGuy on September 04, 2014, 01:23:40 am »
Ok so i'm a Hiker looking to get off the dirt and do some yellow blazing along the Southern Tier from the east side of texas(Silsbee Tx) to California next year.... As far as riding experience i have little besides from when i was kid.(do not own a bike currently lol) Honestly what do i need to be looking for in a bike? There is a local Bike shop that carries AWOLs i think and i can drive 2 hours to Houston to test out the touring bikes at REI... but i read other posts from bikers who ride all the time and they say the bike feels "right". Can some one explain this to me?

Also what is the thoughts on bike trailers? I look at the Burley Travoy and i could just strap my hiking pack on the thing and be off or would the saddle bags(panniers) be better? I realized i won't be carrying a weeks worth of food 24/7 on a bike tour but i will need repair gear so i imagine my total weight would be some where around 30-40 lbs....

I'm sure ya'll have seen posts like this before and thought that guy is going to hit the learning curve hard lol but i'm a sucker for punishment so what ever honest even possibly burtal advice and gear suggestions ya'll have please send it my way. Thanks!!!
General Discussion / Re: Riding on the US Interstates
« Last post by rogermcd on September 03, 2014, 10:56:35 pm »
I really can't see what Jefferson or Washington have to with changing road rules in 2014.

I can't see the relevance of any of this to my original suggestion

Those who have responded to my post and have sited specific instances or issues and problems using the interstates seem to think that you can extrapolate one incident and arrive at a conclusion

These same problems of narrow bridges with no shoulders, bad traffic, speeding traffic etc etc happen on back roads and I would suggest are orders of magnitude more frequent and more serious than can be experienced on the interstates.

I agree that riding into cities on the interstate is probably not the best way in

General Discussion / Re: Riding on the US Interstates
« Last post by zerodish on September 03, 2014, 08:13:38 pm »
I've written about this extensively here and in other places. I have also done 100000 miles in the United States. It is allowed in Oregon Idaho Utah Arizona New Mexico. The law is quite clear and was written by George Washington and Thomas Jefferson. Later laws were enacted on the frontier because of private property abuse by the railroads. Existing roads are public land these roads cannot be closed for any reason and no one can be barred from the use of these roads. Pedestrians can only be barred from new roads built after the laws were enacted. This means all traffic must be allowed on any interstate built over an existing road unless an alternate route is built near by. Near by is generally 2 miles this information can be found in the law practice of Thomas Jefferson by Thomas Jefferson. The governors office of Utah and INDOT agrees with my interpretation of federal law. INDOT has ordered the state police not to enforce the pedestrian ban on the newly built interstate 69. I expect it was the Amish that informed INDOT they were breaking the law. If I'm reading the Amish law suit right this means horses and wagons are allow on all interstates period. This is not considered a road law but a constitutional law. This means serious trouble for local governments and police who harass horses and wagon users. The KYDOT in Lexington are aware of this law. Good luck convincing the police of this.
Classifieds / WTB High Quality Touring Parts!
« Last post by diesel9er on September 03, 2014, 01:30:51 pm »
Need parts for a new project. Nice triple crank set, rear wheel, and whatever else you may have! 700C 9speed. King, White, Paul, etc...
Food Talk / Re: Food budgeting help
« Last post by indyfabz on September 03, 2014, 08:22:42 am »
Buy inexpensive food basics, like rice, beans, pasta and oatmeal, and add to that. $15 for one meal out should be doable depending on your tastes and where you happen to find yourself. You are not going to get a good steak for $15, but that should buy you a decent burger, fries and a good beer.

I am leaving for a tour on Friday. I always promise myself that my next tour will be the one where I write down all my expenses, including food expenses. If the past is any guide, I will grow tired of doing that by the second day at the latest.
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