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General Discussion / Re: Busiest ACA or other trail intersection?
« Last post by PeteJack on August 25, 2014, 04:08:20 pm »
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I cast my vote for the vicinity of Jeffrey City
Jeffrey City was (is?) so memorably godawful and anything improving that would spoil it. I think a book could be written of Jeffrey City stories. I've no recollection of a church there but I did stay in the dismal motel before it closed, incredibly expensive, $70+, for a freezing room, broke TV and a leaking toilet.

Sorry for not contributing much but I do remember thinking a B & B in Twin Bridges would have been nice.
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General Discussion / Re: Busiest ACA or other trail intersection?
« Last post by Miller on August 25, 2014, 04:01:37 pm »
4. Some time later (a few years maybe?) she reported that folks manners had gotten worse and worse and that guests were not cleaning up after themselves and expected too much in the way of hospitality.  She complained that they didn't offer to help by doing some work around the place.  I confess that I didn't either.  We did clean up after ourselves, thanked her, and tried to have generally good manners.  After the fire the three of us kicked in and sent her a check.  We think of her as a friend.

I had mixed feelings about the news of her stopping hosting cyclists, which she obviously had every right to do.  On one hand I was saddened that folks were rude and left her place a mess.  On the other I thought it odd that she expected folks to do things like work on the roof or what not.  I know that about the time we rolled into Ordway we were dog tired and the next in a hurry to make time.  The guests that have stayed with me have all been the same in that regard.  In general expecting much more than guests being thankful, polite, and cleaning up after themselves can only lead to disappointment.

Her arrangement toward the end was that people that stayed with her agree to work for 15 minutes on her property. So maybe it wasn't that people weren't offering to help but that they weren't following through on the agreement?

Regarding Ordway as a place for a future hostel, I read in a CG journal that the people from the Newton bike shop/hostel were thinking of moving there. Just an FYI for the OP...
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General Discussion / Re: Busiest ACA or other trail intersection?
« Last post by indyfabz on August 25, 2014, 03:53:09 pm »
Like any endeavor involving humans, there is the chance, maybe even a likelihood, that poor behaviors of the odd individual can ruin a good thing for the rest of us.

IIRC, something similar happened in or near Jeffrey City within the last few years. As I remember the story, there was a church that was allowing cyclists to spend the night. There was a posted list of rules. Some incident or incidents involving violations of those rules resulted in the church no longer allowing cyclists to stay there.
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General Discussion / Re: Lost Bike Shorts: Great Divide Canada
« Last post by PeteJack on August 25, 2014, 03:51:37 pm »
If anybody finds the detachable jacket sleeves  that I left somewhere near Missoula MT please bin them as the rest of he jacket fell apart long ago.
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Classifieds / Re: FS: Lone Peak Sundance Panniers
« Last post by AnneBike on August 25, 2014, 03:51:21 pm »
Do you still have the panniers?  I'm curious about the attachment system.
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General Discussion / Re: Busiest ACA or other trail intersection?
« Last post by staehpj1 on August 25, 2014, 02:00:05 pm »
Like any endeavor involving humans, there is the chance, maybe even a likelihood, that poor behaviors of the odd individual can ruin a good thing for the rest of us. I'll be curious about what Gillian has to say. I will try to contact her.
There was an article in Adventure Cycling.  My memory is foggy on the details but I think there may have been an open letter from her.  Here are a few things I recall about her, her hospitality, and her falling out with the cycling community.

1. She had a long history of offering hospitality to cyclists.  She was super nice to us when we stayed there and we greatly enjoyed our stay.
2. The time we stayed with her she had already hosted 80 cyclists that summer.
3. I recall that she had a wild fire sweep through and burn her house and outbuildings to the ground.  There was an outpouring of help from the cycling community with folks sending checks and I think there were folks that went and physically helped out.
4. Some time later (a few years maybe?) she reported that folks manners had gotten worse and worse and that guests were not cleaning up after themselves and expected too much in the way of hospitality.  She complained that they didn't offer to help by doing some work around the place.  I confess that I didn't either.  We did clean up after ourselves, thanked her, and tried to have generally good manners.  After the fire the three of us kicked in and sent her a check.  We think of her as a friend.

I had mixed feelings about the news of her stopping hosting cyclists, which she obviously had every right to do.  On one hand I was saddened that folks were rude and left her place a mess.  On the other I thought it odd that she expected folks to do things like work on the roof or what not.  I know that about the time we rolled into Ordway we were dog tired and the next in a hurry to make time.  The guests that have stayed with me have all been the same in that regard.  In general expecting much more than guests being thankful, polite, and cleaning up after themselves can only lead to disappointment.
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Gear Talk / LKLM & Krangear
« Last post by Reinhart Bigl on August 25, 2014, 01:58:36 pm »
Hi all, been looking around for a good deal on a new or used cromo touring frameset...
In my online travels, I found a company called LKLM Krangear out of China.  They sell touring bikes and accessories.
www.lklm.com
I've never heard of them until now, and there is little if any anicdotal information out there by owners.

Their product looks like it's decent quality (frames are made from Reynolds 725 CroMo tubes, and have all the required brazeons...).

Does anyone here have any experience with this company?  I'm seriously thinking of buying one of their framesets...as the price is right...

Thanks

Reinhart
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Routes / Re: Adventure Cycling Maps - Missing Routes ?
« Last post by canalligators on August 25, 2014, 01:35:50 pm »
The Rails to Trails Conservancy http://www.railstotrails.org/index.htmlhas the most complete trails listing.  Also check state DOT/AOT sites for state bike routes and traffic volume maps.
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Some good suggestions so far.  I'll add:
- Take a repair class.  You should at least be able to do all tire repairs and replace cables.
- Use established cycling routes.  That should keep you off the suicidal roads.
- Start out short and build distance.  Do an overnight, then a weekend, then a week.
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General Discussion / Re: Busiest ACA or other trail intersection?
« Last post by OldDogBC on August 25, 2014, 10:53:44 am »
Thank you for your feedback. Good points and suggestions. I didn't mention that part of this plan is a Newport Beach, CA to Bar Harbor, ME ride next May with the intention of seeing as much of the ground in between as is practical. I asked the original question in an effort to perhaps give me a few spots along the way to focus on.

Like any endeavor involving humans, there is the chance, maybe even a likelihood, that poor behaviors of the odd individual can ruin a good thing for the rest of us. I'll be curious about what Gillian has to say. I will try to contact her.

And yes, it does come down to ending up somewhere I want to live so having the connection to bicycle touring is just a piece of the puzzle.

Thank you again.
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