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Gear Talk / Re: A folding bike for touring?
« Last post by staehpj1 on October 18, 2014, 12:45:49 pm »
This whole discussion seems to be off on picking apart the idea of using folding bikes to tour.  Both rational and irrational reasons are presented, but the only ones that have merit were the cost and possible fit issues.  I note also that the naysayers are mostly people who haven't really given one a good try.  I may be misjudging, but that's the tone I heard.
The thread seemed to me to generally be supportive of the notion of folders for touring.  My post probably had some of the most negative comments, but did not "pick apart the idea of idea of using folding bikes to tour".    I did pick at the particular style of bike that the first post of the thread was about.  It seemed a poor choice for touring to me for the reasons I listed.

The Bike Friday does look like for some folks in some touring conditions that it would make a lot of sense.  Like any bike style there are some compromises with even the best of the folders.  For most of my tours the benefits would not be that great so I see no reason the deal with the compromises which include the cost among other things.  If your touring style would benefit greatly from a folder then a BF might be the ticket, but I have my doubts about the Tern Eclipse S-18.  It looks a lot like a dolled up Dahon, with a lot of the same disadvantages and hefty price tag.  The Tern in question seems like more of a mixed mode commuter that a touring bike.
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General Discussion / Re: Toe clips? Clipless? None of the above?
« Last post by DaveB on October 18, 2014, 11:49:52 am »
I think I'd prefer mud over marring. They do make clip covers, though. Then you'd have the "I'm walking with a big lump on the bottom of my shoe" problem.
Even lugged soled MTB shoes let the cleat touch the ground a bit so you will have both.  AFAIK, cleat covers are only available for road shoes and road cleats like Look, Time, Speedplay, Shimano SPDL, etc.  No one makes them for recessed cleats.
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Gear Talk / Re: A folding bike for touring?
« Last post by canalligators on October 18, 2014, 11:26:09 am »
The real beauty of a folder is being able to take it on other transport modes, portaging if you will.  They have real advantages there.  And some good folding bikes also make good touring bikes, though they won't be cheap.  Lots of people use and enjoy touring on them, especially the Fridays.  You have to decide whether a folding bike is the right tool for your situation.

This whole discussion seems to be off on picking apart the idea of using folding bikes to tour.  Both rational and irrational reasons are presented, but the only ones that have merit were the cost and possible fit issues.  I note also that the naysayers are mostly people who haven't really given one a good try.  I may be misjudging, but that's the tone I heard.

As for folding bikes looking funny, the same thought process scares people away from recumbents - and many of them make exceptionally good touring bikes.  Let's keep our minds open, friends.
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General Discussion / Re: Toe clips? Clipless? None of the above?
« Last post by canalligators on October 18, 2014, 11:01:46 am »
A third option is Power Grip straps.  I haven't tried them, but they have a small, dedicated following.
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Routes / Amsterdam to Paris Route?
« Last post by Noeta on October 18, 2014, 12:15:24 am »
After one or two beers with the guys 2015 's short (2 week) run has been confirmed & committed as an Amsterdam to Paris in June or July. Great idea,  but we have no concept of a route other than drifting South from Amsterdam.  would love to hear some suggestions and recomendations.
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General Discussion / Re: Bike Question
« Last post by islachica on October 17, 2014, 11:34:26 pm »
Thanks for your reply, that was helpful!
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General Discussion / Re: Bike Question
« Last post by canalligators on October 17, 2014, 11:18:47 pm »
You can tour on lots of different bikes.  If the fit is good, the gearing is adequate and you can carry your gear ok, the bike will work for you.  Also, good commuting bikes generally make good touring bikes, and vice versa. 

But I see two shortfalls with that bike.  It doesn't have low enough gearing for any loads or hills.  And it doesn't have a way to load gear using panniers, though you can use a trailer with it.  If the bike fits you well, though, you could have a triple (and probably a different derailleur and shifter) for a couple hundred dollars.  Changing the rear cassette will give a little lower gearing, but you really need to get down into the 25 inch-gear range for loaded touring.  It will take a triple to do that.
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General Discussion / Bike Question
« Last post by islachica on October 17, 2014, 11:05:24 pm »
I'm new to all of this. I currently ride a women's scott speedster that I got just over a year or so ago from REI, it's great for daily commuting but is it too light or not strong enough for bike touring? Should I look for a new bike or try to use what I got?
Thanks!
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General Discussion / Re: Philly to FL...anyone interested?
« Last post by fitz on October 17, 2014, 08:08:19 pm »
Yep, I'm taking Route V from Hazleton to the river.  Is there a good way to get from Allentown to Philadelphia?  From looking at the map, it looks like my best route is to follow the Lehigh river past Bethlehem, link up with the Delaware river and continue to Philly, where I can go north to meet the Atlantic Coast trail.
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General Discussion / Re: Toe clips? Clipless? None of the above?
« Last post by Pat Lamb on October 17, 2014, 03:53:42 pm »
I use both mtb and touring shoes interchangeably on my clipless pedals, but prefer NOT to use the mtb shoes when touring so I don't track in dirt and mud into diners, bathrooms, warmshower's living rooms, etc.  Most mtb shoes have a pretty serious tread pattern.

I have more of a mud problem commuting (in winter, half my yard turns to mud) than touring.  The overwhelming majority of my touring time is on the bike, on pavement, in a store or diner, or on concrete sidewalks -- not much to pick up mud from.
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