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General Discussion / Re: Toe clips? Clipless? None of the above?
« Last post by Miller on October 16, 2014, 09:20:57 pm »
I've ridden clipless and adjusted to them but I never really like the feel. I feel safer on platforms for those rare times when you have to get a foot down very quickly. I've been completely happy with BMX platforms with skate shoes. I find this combination very comfortable and it reduces the need for camp shoes.
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General Discussion / Re: Toe clips? Clipless? None of the above?
« Last post by etsisk on October 16, 2014, 06:10:20 pm »
Agreed about the tread pattern and mud - I usually take the shoes off when I go into someone's home that is hosting me. Restaurants, not so much. :)
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General Discussion / Re: Toe clips? Clipless? None of the above?
« Last post by mbattisti on October 16, 2014, 04:39:48 pm »
I use both mtb and touring shoes interchangeably on my clipless pedals, but prefer NOT to use the mtb shoes when touring so I don't track in dirt and mud into diners, bathrooms, warmshower's living rooms, etc.  Most mtb shoes have a pretty serious tread pattern.
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General Discussion / Re: northern tier - how to start in bar harbor
« Last post by indyfabz on October 16, 2014, 01:45:16 pm »
I recommend both Canadian portions of the route if it's not too much trouble crossing the border. Niagara Falls, ON was fun. We stayed two nights at the Rainbow Hostel in the old downtown area of the city and took a guided bus tour to places many tourists who come for the falls don't visit. Out west, the towne campsite of Waterton Village, AB is along the lake with a dramatic view of the mountains. It's another nice place for a day off. There is a popular boat ride/hike combination you can take if you like. The route back into Montana via Chief Mountain Highway is very nice, albeit difficult.
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General Discussion / Re: Philly to FL...anyone interested?
« Last post by indyfabz on October 16, 2014, 01:34:12 pm »
Absolutely!  I'm leaving Hazleton PA on Sunday.  When were you planning on leaving?

What route are you taking? Note that Sunday is the final day of the final fall foliage weekend in Jim Thorpe. Be careful if you pass through there. Traffic can get crazy around the center of town, although this Sunday is supposed to be chilly and windy, so the crowds might not be as bad as usual. Thinking about going up Saturday to ride the Lehigh Gorge Trail.

It just occurred to me that you could follow PA Bike Route V from Hazleton to Delaware Water Gap to pick up the Adventure Cycling Route, which is a nice, relatively easy way to head south. The sections between Belvedere, NJ and Philipsburg, NJ and between Carpentersville and Lambertville, NJ are quite nice. The guy who owns the campground in Upper Black Eddy, PA, just off route at Milford, NJ, charges cyclists only $15. Let me know if want any info re: that area. I have ridden from DWG to Philly a couple of times and have done Belvedere to Frenchtown and Lambertville many more times.
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General Discussion / Re: Knees.... not the bees knees...
« Last post by chrissiedakini on October 16, 2014, 11:30:23 am »
Thank you all for your advice and taking the time to write! Yeah, not so fun, hope too, I get it down pronto.

The one difference on that first day back was that I was wearing different shoes to what I normally wear (I was wearing boots as it was damn cold that day), which weren't as sturdy as the normal shoes I wear when I cycle (just a pair of running shoes, but sturdy), and we did an 88 mile day that day. So I wonder whether that set it off (as never had a problem prior with my knee). Also: I notice I walk funny in that in shoes that I have worn for a long time, they are worn out on the inner side of the shoe first, so i guess i walk pretty lopsided with the tendency to lean in. I wonder whether that has anything to do with this also.


I am going to go ask at a bike shop first about positioning etc; I do a lot of spinning and so am certain that my cadence is within that range. I never did have spd's, but was in toe clips, which I took off and immediately made a difference.

Will play around with the seat height some more and try to get it right. I adjusted it a couple of days ago (after writing this entry) and it was awesome at first: then got some more pain: this time underneath the top part of my knee cap... which is new. Very frustrating indeed. And I will do more stretching. That seems to really help. When the pain starts, I stop, stretch the legs and can continue again for a while. 

Fingers crossed....
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Gear Talk / Re: Looking for a good touring shoe.
« Last post by Pat Lamb on October 16, 2014, 11:07:12 am »
My problem is that I have used two different SPD shoes when touring. A Specialized MTB shoe and a soft touring shoe both with SPD setup. Both shoes fit perfectly and a are very comfortable when walking around. They are also very comfortable when biking and not too large and too small. However, when touring, my big toe starts sleeping (feeling numb) after 6h of biking or so. It is so annoying that I step out of the SPD system and start using the other platform side of the pedal ... still with the same SPD shoes. And the problem is gone. My feet just dont like to be fixed in one position.

There are a couple other systems which use MTB shoes, but give you more angular freedom.  I've used Speedplay Frogs and Crank Bros. Eggbeaters with good results.  After many hours, you may want to change the lateral point of contact,  I usually get off the bike for 5-10 minutes every hour or two.  After walking a bit during that bathroom, snack, lunch, camera, or scenery break, I'm typically good to go for a few more hours.
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Gear Talk / Re: Looking for a good touring shoe.
« Last post by BikeFreak on October 15, 2014, 11:58:57 pm »
I use normal everyday shoes and not SPD or something similar. I once met a guy who toured with those modern clogs.
I clock around 125 mi pr day.

Lucas
OK, but I know of a guy who would run marathons in combat boots.  I guess it worked for him but most of us used something we found worked better.

My problem is that I have used two different SPD shoes when touring. A Specialized MTB shoe and a soft touring shoe both with SPD setup. Both shoes fit perfectly and a are very comfortable when walking around. They are also very comfortable when biking and not too large and too small. However, when touring, my big toe starts sleeping (feeling numb) after 6h of biking or so. It is so annoying that I step out of the SPD system and start using the other platform side of the pedal ... still with the same SPD shoes. And the problem is gone. My feet just dont like to be fixed in one position.

Lucas
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General Discussion / Re: Toe clips? Clipless? None of the above?
« Last post by John Nelson on October 15, 2014, 11:58:13 pm »
I use MTB shoes with SPD cleats/pedals. I see absolutely no downside to it.
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General Discussion / Re: Toe clips? Clipless? None of the above?
« Last post by DaveB on October 15, 2014, 09:27:32 pm »
DaveB, I have a pair of those on my mtb that I'm thinking about putting onto my touring bike. Just a thought at the moment...
As the old ad used to say; "try it, you'll like it."  I expect the great majority of touring bike use MTB-type clipless pedals.
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