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Routes / Re: Great Divide: Tour Divide's 2015 reroute around the Great Basin
« Last post by Venchka on June 27, 2015, 07:27:33 pm »
Thank you!


Sent from somewhere around here.
General Discussion / Re: What can towns offer cyclists?
« Last post by BikeFreak on June 27, 2015, 07:22:16 pm »
Greetings cyclists,

I am the Community Development Director for the City of Pittsburg, Kansas, which is on the Transamerica route.  We would like to be more welcoming to cyclists as they come through town.  Not being an adventure cyclist myself, I have no idea what ya'll need or want from the communities you're trekking through.

We currently have an RV park, with a covered shelter and restrooms, where cyclists are able to pitch tents (it's in a shady spot!) and stay overnight.  What other things could we offer?

Thanks in advance for your input!

Becky Gray

Hi Becky,

Thanks for asking. Actually, I hope that ALL Community Development Directors in the entire US would ask the same questions like you do :-). I had a look at the 2 links provided already and I would like to agree with all the points. However, many of the points is pure luxury :-). I have bicycled something like 20000 mi in the US and what I like the most is arriving in a town where

1. there is a free cyclist camping spot!!!

If I have a free cyclist camping spot then 90% of my requirements are fulfilled. Please remember that most cross country cyclists are very self sufficient and can provide for themselves - they carry tools, spare parts etc ... they just need a place to relax for the night.

But why is a camping spot so important? East of the Rockies, unless you find a free camping spot you typically have 2 options when using a tent:

1. State parks
2. Private campgrounds

State parks are approx. 15 USD pr night.
Private campgrounds can be up to 35 USD or even more. That is for 1 person, 1 bicycle, 1 tent arriving at 8 PM and leaving at 6 AM. The prices are so high because a vast majority of campgrounds (especially on the east coast) dont distinguish between a cyclist with a tent and a 30 foot RV with a 30 Amp hookup. It is very frustrating.

The best camping spot has a covered shelter and some benches. Maybe also some running water. Maybe rest rooms. But it is not critical because we can always find a service station with water and rest rooms. A very good spot would be on the premises of the local fire department, police station or the community park. However, I think, if the city becomes too big, you have waay to many youngsters hanging around til late in the evening.

If you look at a town like Pittsburg, I am very sure that most cyclists passing through are using the Adventure Cycling Maps and these maps already show all the services. So basically, in terms of camping spot, we just need to know where we can pitch the tent for free - we dont need big signs etc. So if the authorities like the Police know that we are biking cross country and staying in a park then that should be perfect.

Now, you might be asking why we want a covered shelter when we have tents? :-). Actually most cyclists try to set up their tent on the rock hard concrete floor of a covered shelter. That way we dont need the tent fly and can have a much more comfortable nights sleep without any annoying tent condensation problems in the morning.

And in terms of camping spots in community parks etc.: Very often the community parks have extremely bright lights that are switched on automatically during the entire night. The light is so powerful and goes directly into the tent and it is almost like daylight inside ... and thus difficult to sleep.

That is my personal view - hope that helps :-)

General Discussion / Re: Bicycle tools for a cross country ride
« Last post by bobbys beard on June 27, 2015, 05:46:39 pm »
I always carry

Allen Keys,
spare tubes,
puncture repair kit,
bike pump,
spare cables (1 brake, 1 gear),
spare clip on chain link,
Swiss army knife,
spare screws for your pannier attachments etc  (they easily work loose and riding with one pannier banging into your wheel at every corner is no fun at all) 
Chain lube.
Bit of old rag......

and one item that no one ever mentions, but I really do recommend..... a tyre boot. when my tyre got ripped on tour, the tyre boot lasted the rest of the life of the tyre, not to mention enabled me to repair a blow out and be back on the road in 15 minutes. If it ever happens, you can bet it will be in the worst possible location and  you'll be very glad you took this advice! :)
General Discussion / Re: USA Coast to Coast
« Last post by hondated on June 27, 2015, 01:57:59 pm »
Thanks John a lot of great information there that I will pass on. Ted
General Discussion / Re: USA Coast to Coast
« Last post by John Nelson on June 27, 2015, 12:59:24 pm »
Anywhere from two to four months is typical. Depending on the route, it also could be anywhere from 3000 to 5000 miles. 50 miles a day is easily doable by most cyclotourists. I think 60 miles a day is more typical, and 70 miles a day is not uncommon. Some people take a lot of rest days. Some people (including me) take none.

Fundraising rides are quite common. As long as 100% of the donated money goes directly to the charity, they are moderately, but not usually wildly, successful. There are many web sites that will act as a contribution conduit and provide security and trust to the donors. It is, however, difficult to get contributions from complete strangers, so family, friends, friends of friends, business associates, etc. are usually the biggest contributors. If any of the money is diverted to trip expenses, however, then the donations will go way, way down. It usually pays to have some sort of unique angle, especially if you want media attention. Most media won't touch the story unless there is a local connection of some kind, or unless there is a heartwarming story to go with it.
General Discussion / USA Coast to Coast
« Last post by hondated on June 27, 2015, 12:02:57 pm »
Hi everyone this week I met a couple over here in the Uk that intends to cycle this route to raise money for a charity in 2016 so I was wondering given its almost 3000 miles how long this would this take.
They have cycled many of the big climbs in Europe but have not actually began any sort of training to achieve this yet.

Would you say 50 miles a day was reasonable with days added in to rest. Do you think that they could complete it in 12 weeks or less.

To raise their profile in the States and hopefully acquire funding would it be worth them contacting television and radio stations to publicise what they intend to do or are the States awash with cyclists trying to raise money for charities.
Routes / Re: Great Divide: Tour Divide's 2015 reroute around the Great Basin
« Last post by bergersride on June 27, 2015, 11:50:27 am »
Based on the TD cue sheets I think this is the location:

If anyone who has actually been there could confirm that would be great.
California / Re: Local advice for a UK visitor please?
« Last post by John Nelson on June 27, 2015, 11:08:00 am »
If it's going to be a cold night, then don't camp too high.

Bears are only a problem is certain spots. Ask locally and take standard precautions with food.

I don't find dog spray important. Just stop before the dog gets to you, and put your bike between you and the dog.

If you take a tent, then use it. Camping puts you more in touch with nature.
California / Local advice for a UK visitor please?
« Last post by Stringcat on June 27, 2015, 10:54:37 am »
Hi guys. I'm flying out from the UK in a couple of weeks to ride coast to coast on the Western Express and TransAm routes. I've done plenty of long distance rides in the UK including Scottish mountains, but I've never ridden in the USA. Any tips would be gratefully received - especially for once I'm up in the mountains. I live in a country that doesn't have bears!

I have the full set of ACA maps and it looks as though even where towns are few and far between I ought to be able to find accommodation in town every night. (I will have a tent just in case.) And a friend who has ridden coast to coast recommended taking pepper spray for wild dogs: that was a new one to me!

Best wishes.
General Discussion / Re: Whitney's Cabins in Woolwich ME Closed
« Last post by John Nelson on June 27, 2015, 09:42:44 am »
Too bad. It was a nice place to stay.
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