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Routes / Northern Tier Alternate
« Last post by bbarrettx on June 18, 2016, 02:42:06 pm »
I rode the TransAm in 1987 when I was 21 and my daughter and I are exploring a XC tour for next summer as a 30th anniversary trip. We have a friend who lives close to Stanley, ID who we plan to visit along the way and plan to finish on the NJ Shore. Because of the ID visit we'll start on the TransAm and veer off once in ID to get to Stanley in the Sawtooths. From Stanley we'll find our way to the Lewis and Clark and then Northern Tier to Great Lakes and Lake Erie Connector and from Niagara work our way down to the Finger Lakes and across southern NY on one of the state bike routes and then eventually into northern NJ. This route is very preliminary and I've done no research. If anyone has any insights into any of these sections it would be helpful. Thanks in advance. Cheers.

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Temporary ACA Route Road Closures / Re: Idaho Hot Springs route
« Last post by bikebaker on June 18, 2016, 07:09:06 am »
great news! thanks...
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General Discussion / Re: wild camping in WA, OR and CA
« Last post by Jambi on June 18, 2016, 04:35:24 am »
Wild camping in the lost coast section in Northern California is a treat!

It has hefty climbs but totally worth it.

I would stick to hiker biker campsites where possible. State campgrounds are really cheap and usually pretty quiet. You also are more likely to run into other cyclists.
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General Discussion / Re: Pannier Discussion
« Last post by John Nelson on June 18, 2016, 12:21:05 am »
I've never heard of a commercially available aluminum pannier, so maybe you will need to make your own. It might be easier to buy a commercial pannier and add aluminum reinforcement at places where you feel it might be necessary.

Although most panniers do contain plastic parts, most of the pannier is not plastic. They are typically a coated fabric. Yes, sometimes the plastic hooks or brackets might break, so you could replace those with metal if you want. Aluminum, however, isn't very strong either, and it can break. A high-quality plastic would likely be stronger than aluminum. So if I was going to replace hooks and brackets, I might opt for a stronger metal.

I've been touring with the same Ortlieb panniers for over 20,000 miles, and absolutely nothing has gone wrong with them. Some people, however, carry spare hooks. It might be easier to just go with a commercial pannier and carry some spare parts if you want additional protection.

If you really do want an all-aluminum pannier, you'll probably need to make your own. Don't use too thin of aluminum, however, or it will probably fail. And you'll have to coat all joints and fasteners carefully to make the panniers waterproof. I hope you come back here and post some information and pictures when you get them made.
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I emailed the FS through the Sawtooth National Forest website yesterday (June 16th) about Dollarhide Summit.  Julie Thomas, Public Affairs Officer replied:

"I am told that Dollarhide is open as of today"


Pete
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Temporary ACA Route Road Closures / Re: Idaho Hot Springs route
« Last post by Pilotpeat on June 17, 2016, 11:34:36 pm »
I emailed the FS through the Sawtooth National Forest website yesterday (June 16th) about Dollarhide Summit.  Julie Thomas, Public Affairs Officer replied:

"I am told that Dollarhide is open as of today"


Pete
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Gear Talk / Re: saddles and sores
« Last post by paddleboy17 on June 17, 2016, 05:04:21 pm »
Russ,

You skimmed when you should have read.

A few years back, I participated in an event ride, and I rode my beloved Paramount, aka the zippy fast bike.  15 miles into a 65 mile ride, a torrential ride dumped an amazing quantity of rain in 20 minutes.  There was indeed a rooster tail of water, and while I did have a saddlebag, my saddle did get really wet too.  I have always used proof hide on the top and bottom of the saddle.  By the end of the ride, I could hardly believe the damage done to my saddle.   Once the saddle dried out naturally, a week later I might add, I was able to retention the saddle and take up most of the stretch.  There are few disturbing looking stretch marks, that have not done any lasting damage.  If the saddle ever gets wet like his again though, it will be a lost cause. 

The amount of moisture coming off of my backside spread over the area of my backside is trivial.
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Gear Talk / Re: saddles and sores
« Last post by RussSeaton on June 17, 2016, 04:26:06 pm »
It is not my damp shorts that I worry about.

You're worrying about the wrong thing.  Very common.  Most people worry about the wrong thing on almost everything.  You ride in the rain a few times a year for a few hours.  Saddle gets very wet.  For a few hours.  EVERY time you ride, your shorts get sweaty.  The sweat soaks into the chamois.  Your chamois sits on the saddle.  You rub the chamois into the leather saddle on every pedal stroke.  A few hours of rain compared to hundreds or thousands of hours of sweat.  Its all water either way.  Sweat puts more water into the saddle than rain ever can.

Another example.  I have various shorts and t-shirts.  All of them get soaked with sweat almost every day in the summer.  Due to sweat.  I rarely ever get rained on.  Yet I wear these shorts and t-shirts outside.  If moisture harmed these clothes, where should I worry?  Rare rain or daily sweat?

Another example.  Rain.  You mentioned rain.  But you were not too concerned about the rain falling from the sky.  You were concerned with the rain thrown up by the wheels.  As most people know, rain gets you wet after it falls out of the sky.  The initial fall does not really affect you.  Its all the bouncing around after it hits the ground that gets you soaked.  Some folks rant and rave about rain jackets.  But jackets don't do much to protect you from all the water on the ground.  And I use a saddle bag so no rain can get from the rear tire to the under side of my saddle.  Most folks I see riding have saddle bags.  They mount below the saddle and behind the seatpost.  So your concern with rooster tails is almost nonsense.  The rooster tail hits the saddle bag and never ever hits the under side of the saddle.
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Gear Talk / Re: saddles and sores
« Last post by dkoloko on June 17, 2016, 10:59:06 am »
I could comment on several others' comments, but I'll just make one comment.

The saddle you rave about after a 50 mile ride, may not prove to be any better than the one you used before when you ride 50 miles (or so) a day for weeks or more on tour.
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When I have traveled somewhere to begin a ride I have used UPS. I acquire a bike box, dismantle (somewhat) the bike (wheels, pedals, seat, turn the handlebars); pack into the box and surround with peanuts, then ship to a hotel where I will spend a day putting the bike together. I usually use a bike box for the bike and some gear and a second box for my wheels. I generally ship at least a week before I start the ride since I want to ensure the bike is at the hotel before I arrive. I don't like using the peanuts but they are light, fill the box to minimize movement and limit the possibility of damage during shipment. I also use hard foam to protect my derailleur. I hate shlepping stuff through an airport or finding transportation that will have room for my bike and gear if I do not intend to leave directly from an airport, and I rarely leave directly from an airport.
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