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General Discussion / Finishing ride in NYC, looking for a route
« Last post by Joekappes on August 11, 2016, 12:19:37 pm »
My name is Joe and im currently on a frankenstiened transam route from Oregon to NYC. I am looking to End in NYC after following the atlantic coast up from Richmond. Would love to finish on the ocean in NYC and im looking for the best option/route to do so.

Doesnt need to be in the city, ive never been before but if a trip  to a beach/coast might be safer north or south of the city that would be fine. Just looking for something close.

Does anyone have a good suggestion?
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Routes / Re: Why does the PC route bypass Olympic Peninsula?
« Last post by Itinerant Harper on August 11, 2016, 12:01:45 pm »
Yeah I think it's ridiculous that the ACA route doesn't actually include the WA Pacific Coast.  I've lived in WA for 40 years and have been out in the peninsula throughout that time and just can't agree that there has been major changes there that has suddenly made it "tourable". The services have remained the same (if towns have grown of course) and are pretty reasonably space out.  The WA coast is a far more rugged and wild coast then the tame (though wonderful) OR Coast. Only very Northern CA coast compares and is of course different.  And while there are plenty of places where the route ducks in from the coast it's not like you are riding on the beach the whole time on any stretch of the coast.  Not to mention there is a distinct difference between the northern and southern stretches of the coast and on the southern end you are pretty close to the water for long stretches if you use 105, 109 as well as 101. 

Finally even if you want to take the inland route along the Sound and Hood Canal at the very least the Coast Route should from Elma (where WA Parks inexplicably starts) take the back roads and 105 to the Coast at Twin Harbors State park and down the coast and along the bays to Cape Disappointment.  There is great views, great parks and great riding on this stretch and this isn't part of WA Parks, so no way to do all of the WA coast on ACA rates...  Why anyone would want to take the inland route near I-5 (which does have some nice places, but just doesn't compare) beyond being in a real hurry, is bizarre to me.

In my opinion you haven't "ridden the Pacific Coast" if you don't do the WA section and I always recommend people to use the Kirkendall and Spring book along with the ACA maps for this reason.
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Routes / Re: Why does the PC route bypass Olympic Peninsula?
« Last post by staehpj1 on August 11, 2016, 07:38:22 am »
For what it is worth I started in Seattle for my ride down the coast.  I took the ferry to Bremmerton and picked up the PC route.  I found the ACA PC route in that part of Washington to be one of my least favorite sections of any AC route I had ridden.  I definitely would consider something different next time.  I loved the rest of the ride and am not sure if I will use a more coastal route there next time or just start in Astoria.  I probably will do the PC again in some modified form.
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General Discussion / Re: SPD Cleats-SH51 Versus SH56?
« Last post by bnolan@yahoo.com on August 10, 2016, 11:01:50 pm »
I used the SH51 cleats on my mountain bike until last month when I fell 3 times in one day because I couldn't unclip fast enough.  I then switched to the SH56 and have never failed to unclip since.   I did have to tighten the release tension so that I didn't unclip accidently while climbing.   Because of the good results with the SH56, I switched my touring bike pedals from toe clips / straps to SPD.
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General Discussion / Re: What to do with a bike box?
« Last post by John Nelson on August 10, 2016, 04:47:54 pm »
Ah, but there's another solution, though pricier. Pick a bike shop at the end of your route, and ship them the box. Offer to pay a symbolic amount for storing it (this does not work with small urban shops that are squeezed for space.) Then hire them to clean, tune up and pack your bike to ship home.
When I investigated this, I found that it was almost as expensive to ship an empty bike box than a full one. So you are right, this is pricier. The cost factor ruled it out for me.

Besides, most of the time, a bike well-packed in a cardboard box travels fine.
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General Discussion / Re: What to do with a bike box?
« Last post by sdotkling on August 10, 2016, 03:54:13 pm »
Ah, but there's another solution, though pricier. Pick a bike shop at the end of your route, and ship them the box. Offer to pay a symbolic amount for storing it (this does not work with small urban shops that are squeezed for space.) Then hire them to clean, tune up and pack your bike to ship home.


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General Discussion / Re: Pocono Mountains in Pennsylvania
« Last post by Biketouringhobo on August 10, 2016, 02:23:42 pm »
Tell us more, please? Not knowing much about you, it's hard to respond. If you're an 80-year-old, who only now decided he'd like to go on a bike ride, 20 miles might be right. But that's only a couple or 3 hours worth of pedaling even at a leisurely pace.


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I am 50 yrs old and New to SPD Pedals and I have been doing Stealth Bike Camping since 3-1998 i  San Diego, CA and I started planning this Solo Bike Touring Trip when I got my Surly LHT 26in 52cm 2008 on 11-2008 and I was Raised in the Pocono Mtn in PA and North Western NJ
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Routes / Re: Why does the PC route bypass Olympic Peninsula?
« Last post by adventurepdx on August 10, 2016, 01:58:12 pm »
What Jennifer says.

Also, I think most folks doing the Pacific Coast Route want a more direct routing, and going  the "long" way around the north and west sides of the Olympic Peninsula can add almost a week to the trip. It's faster to stay "inside" and follow the Puget Sound south towards Olympia and turn out to the coast there.

And the Washington coast is a lot different than either the Oregon or California coasts. In OR/CA, 101 or 1 stays fairly close to the ocean and beaches are pretty accessible. In Washington it winds its way many miles inland in many spots, esp. on the Olympic Peninsula. In SW Washington, there are numerous bays and inlets that US 101 winds around, so you'll see "water" but it's not the ocean. The one benefit to 101 in Washington is that it's quieter than 101 in OR and CA.

I biked around the Olympic Peninsula in 2010. It was a nice tour, but as I said above, 101 stays pretty far inland for most of the way from Port Angeles to Aberdeen. There is only one section that hugs the Pacific Coast, and that's only about 10 miles long. Also, while Olympic National Park is nearby, 101 only passes through it in a few spots, up around Lake Crescent (which ironically enough features the worst riding on 101) and that section on the coast at Kalaloch. If you wanted to access other areas of the park, like the beach at Mora or the Hoh rain forest, you'll need to be doing 20 to 40 mile round-trip detours to access these areas of the park. Most of the ride consists of looking at trees and hills and clearcuts, which isn't bad, but you're neither going to be riding directly through the Olympic rainforests nor seeing the Pacific from the saddle for the most part.

I'd like to go around the Olympic peninsula again at some point, but I know that in order to do more stuff in the park, I'll need to plan more time.
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Routes / Re: Why does the PC route bypass Olympic Peninsula?
« Last post by JMilyko on August 10, 2016, 01:35:00 pm »
Hi,

At the time the Pacific Coast Route was researched and developed, the roads on the Olympic Peninsula were more problematic than they are today. Also, services were harder to come by. As can happen over time, conditions improve. In this case, they improved enough that we created the Washington Parks Route. Washington Parks, Section 1 takes in these Olympic Peninsula roads while being contiguous with parts of the Pacific Coast route.


I hope this helps!

Jennifer
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Routes / Why does the PC route bypass Olympic Peninsula?
« Last post by Mister5000 on August 10, 2016, 12:21:02 pm »
So, I've been reviewing my Adventure Cycling map-set for an upcoming Pacific Coast tour, and I'm dismayed to find the route totally bypasses the entire Olympic Peninsula. I'm not afraid to navigate my group off-route to include it, and I will be reading forum input based on "Olympic Peninsula" search results, but I'm just curious why this significant portion of the pacific coast was avoided by ACA mappers in the first place.
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