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Routes / Re: Deception Pass State Park, Washington
« Last post by dancingcyclist on January 12, 2017, 12:09:46 am »
To find the actual grade log into the "Ride with GPS" website, you'll have to sign up but it's free. Use it to map your route through the area you're concerned about. I live in the area and no it is not that steep but it does have some pretty good hills heading south from Hwy20. The road has shoulders off and on and there is a lot of traffic from commuters and tourists. The bridge is used by cyclists and is legal but as mentioned by another posting it is barely wide enough for two trucks to go past each other which is why I have always avoided riding it, however since I'm planning to ride the PCH boarder to boarder I will have to. Maybe if you can time it early or late in the day.

As far as camping, yes, you will get bombarded by jets in that area, I gave up hiking the trails around there because of it. A better campground on the mainland is Bayview State Park next to Padilla Bay not sure of the mileage between the two, maybe 15-20 with only about 2 of them on Hwy20 which does have a good wide shoulder. Don't know if this helps with not knowing just what kind of tour you're doing.

If I can be of any more help, I ride this area all the time so I know the roads well.

Good luck & ride safe
For me, the key to sleeping comfortably is to have a good quality air mattress at least 2.5" thick. And yes, your tent is too heavy.
Routes / Re: Deception Pass State Park, Washington
« Last post by jwrushman on January 11, 2017, 10:04:38 pm »
Thanks, everyone, for the input.  I guess I'll just have to check out the traffic conditions when I get to the bridge.  Maybe I'll just stay on the north side.  It looks like there are nice views from Rosario Beach too.
Gear Talk / Re: Camp Stove
« Last post by John Nelson on January 11, 2017, 06:05:35 pm »
A partially filled Trangia is harder to start.

One of the Vargo titanium stoves is probably perfect.
I use a Vargo titanium stove. I love it. It weighs 1.4 ounces and is indestructible. But you do have to know how to follow instructions. The instructions say to fill it--it doesn't matter whether or not you need that much fuel to cook tonight's dinner. Fill it anyway. A partially filled stove will not reliably bloom. If you don't need that much fuel, pour back what's left when you're done.
Hi! Thank you for the replies...
Yea, my current camping gear is not very light..
Ideally I would love to tour ultralight and stay in b n' b, hostels and hotels...but there seems such a good network of campsites that it would be a shame to not use them..

I have looked at

-the Big Agnes Fly Creek Platinum tent; it seems really light
-big agnes q core sleeping pad..
they seem much lighter and more comfortable...

I have found myself waking up really tired and stiff after camping, but I am willing to embrace it and try and enjoy it!
even adding a fleece blanket and buying an inflatable pillow!
Routes / Re: Deception Pass State Park, Washington
« Last post by indyfabz on January 11, 2017, 02:11:05 pm »
I didn't see any signs restricting bicycles, so I decided to ride like hell.  I got about 50 yards before a pickup truck with a loudspeaker pulled up behind me and told me to get off the road.

Wow! Was it a police officer or some other official? I rode it back in '99 and '00. Probably less development back then, and both times were weekdays in late May, so the busy tourist season hadn't started, and outside of "rush hour."
My current set up is:
-Vangoo Banshee 200 tent: weighs 2.3kgs or 5.07 pounds.
-standard summer season sleeping bag.
-Thermarest blow up mattress.

Your tent does not seem extremely light.  Not heavy but not light.  I think the small, light one man tents can be 3 pounds or so.  Get one.  Assume your bag is goose down.  I have a summer down bag that weighs one pound.  For the Thermarest people have talked about a very light one.  Not sure if that is the one you have or not.  Look on their website.  Think its one of the lightest inflating pads around.  As for aching when you wake up, that is what camp sleeping is about unless you have one of those 5 pound, 3 inch thick pads.  It ain't as comfortable as your bed at home.
Gear Talk / Re: Bike to Bike Intercom
« Last post by DanE on January 11, 2017, 01:55:36 pm »
It appears to me that this device is just using your smart phone for it's functionality. It seems to me you could use the audio functions of something like Skype or Facetime on your smart phone to set up a bike to bike intercom, as long as you are riding where there is cell phone service. Once again, I have no experience with this.

Anyhow, I found this as well:
Gear Talk / Re: How to camp lightweight and sleep more comfortably? any advice please?
« Last post by Nyimbo on January 11, 2017, 01:02:56 pm »
There are more comfortable kits but perhaps not lighter and more comfortable.  I don't sleep well and have back pain ongoing even at home or motel.  I used air mattress -- 3 1/2 inch air mattress (Big Agnes) and it gave me good support and rest.  Especially after long hours in the saddle I slept well.  For me that was worth the weight penalty.  When I read the post about the light weight setups I usually assume they are for folks who have stronger back health or are younger.

Gear Talk / How to camp lightweight and sleep more comfortably? any advice please?
« Last post by Daveymac on January 11, 2017, 12:38:59 pm »
Hi there! I hope you are well!
I am planning a bike tour south from Vancouver in July.
Ideally, I would love to 'credit card tour', but with all the great and cheap campsites, I think camping will be a great option..
My current set up is:
-Vangoo Banshee 200 tent: weighs 2.3kgs or 5.07 pounds.
-standard summer season sleeping bag.
-Thermarest blow up mattress.
I put all these in one of my rear pannier bags...

Is there a lighter and more comfortable alternative to this set-up?

Also, when I camped down through Europe I found that I didn't sleep very well and woke the next morning, often tired and with a sore back..I would set the tent up, blow up the thermarest and sleep in the sleeping bag on top of the mattress...then put some clothes in a pillowcase for a pillow..
Can you recommend making my sleep more comfortable while keeping a light-weight set-up?

Thanks so much!

Dublin Dave.
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