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General Discussion / Re: Schwalbe Mondial vs Marathon Plus Tour
« Last post by vincethebutcher on November 10, 2014, 01:53:40 am »
I've been riding the Mondial for 2 months across Montana and Yellowstone and part of Wyoming . I've gotten 2 flats in 800 miles. The first was a broken fish hook. The second was some brown glass. Both were wedges really deep before a puncture. The Mondial 700x40c is great on gravel and even really bad montana gravel roads. I've been riding some really steep (45 degree or some crazy degree) hills in Oregon and had little to no slip in wet and loose gravel. I was very impressed with these tires. I got the cheaper ones too. Hope this helps.
General Discussion / Re: Toe clips? Clipless? None of the above?
« Last post by p nut on November 10, 2014, 01:53:04 am »
On my mountain bike, it's SPD's for sure.  On the touring bikes, I have both clipless and platforms.  With the SPD's, I sometimes get numb toes after 40 or so miles into the ride.  Not all the time, and have yet to track down the culprit (I use Specialized carbon soled shoes with new-ish inserts).  I decided to install some Lambda pedals with DIY Powergrips straps a couple of weeks ago and have really enjoyed them.  No numbness and like the ability to walk around without the click-clack.  I would like to try some stiffer-soled shoes, though (Five Ten's?)
Pacific Northwest / Re: Willamette Scenic Bikeway
« Last post by scottb on November 10, 2014, 12:57:49 am »
I would check out the bolt bus. I've taken my bike on it before, they stash it underneath with the luggage. I bet they could fit a tandem under there, but I'm not sure. I would check with them first. It's very handy and affordable.
General Discussion / Re: Schwalbe Mondial vs Marathon Plus Tour
« Last post by p nut on November 09, 2014, 09:09:43 pm »
Thank you, John. I didn't notice the 6 square rating. Thought they were all based on a 5-square system, since I didn't see any blank squares.

Pricing wise, they're both priced the same on Chainreaction. Also, I've changed my fair share of tubes. Actually, 2 flats at 3am on last weekend's ride. :) The main reason for the flat protection is because I occasionally haul my kids on my Big Dummy and would not want to experience a flat riding at speed with those two in the back.

Looks like MPT is my tire. Thanks again!!
General Discussion / Re: Schwalbe Mondial vs Marathon Plus Tour
« Last post by John Nelson on November 09, 2014, 06:51:50 pm »
By rating each of their tires in a dozen different categories, Schwalbe makes it easy to do this kind of comparison their web site (assuming you trust Schwalbe's evaluation of their own tires, and I don't know why you wouldn't, or at least I don't know why you would trust anybody else's evaluation more).

Since you didn't even list rolling resistance as a priority, the weight difference is immaterial. You also didn't mention ride quality. Many people say that riding heavy, stiff tires is like riding on wood wheels and sucks all the joy out of riding. Who cares if you can go a million miles on one set of tires without a flat if there is no joy in it. How much are you willing to sacrifice to get a flat every two years vs. a flat every one year? Flats are  certainly annoying, but not that hard to fix.

It's also important to note that the Mondial comes in both a folding version and a wire bead version, and they are completely different tires. Almost everything about these two tires is different except the color and the tread pattern, which makes it very odd that Schwalbe only gives one set of ratings. Since there's a 2-to-1 difference in price, would you really expect them to perform the same? I don't think so.

For protection, the Plus Tour gets a 6 and the Mondial gets a 5. Score one for the Plus Tour. For off road, the Plus Tour gets a 3 and the Mondial gets a 4. Score one for the Mondial. For durability, they both get a 6. I would think, however, that the Plus Tour would last darn near forever since the rubber is about 6 inches thick  ;).

It's almost a tie between these two. You might want to look at some of the other criteria that Schwalbe rates.
General Discussion / Re: Ideas for winter bike tour
« Last post by DaveB on November 09, 2014, 05:56:12 pm »
Australia or New Zealand.  January is summer there.
Routes / Re: Great Divide Route daily mileage expectations???
« Last post by bong_crosby on November 09, 2014, 04:50:43 pm »
I did a shakedown ride on the dirt roads of Idaho in 2014 for my upcoming 2015 GDMBR ride.  In 20 days I rode 750 miles and climbed 50,000 feet which would equate to 1/4 of the GDMBR.  I found that I rode half as many miles per day on dirt than I did while touring on pavement.  My average daily mileage on pavement on other tours was around 75 miles a day but dirt it dropped down to 40 miles a day.  The biggest reasons are: 

1.  Dirt road are steep and twisty
2.  More tire resistance on gravel and dirt
3.  And most of all, you can't fly down the descents on dirt like you can on pavement, especially with a loaded bike. 
Pacific Northwest / Willamette Scenic Bikeway
« Last post by Elbrento on November 09, 2014, 11:30:35 am »
Hello.  We are planning a ride next spring on the Willamette Scenic Bikeyway (134 miles) on a tandem bike pulling a BOB trailer.  We will start at the north end and finish in Eugene.  I need to figure out how to get back to the start point (South Portland) to pick up my SUV.  I know the Cascades Amtrak train is an option with the 10 bike slots, but from what I can find out Amtrak will not allow tandems.  Are there any shuttles or other modes of transportation from Eugene to Portland that I can take without having to tear down and box our tandem?  Thanks.
Youth Bicyle Travel / Re: tour with small children
« Last post by Adventurefamilyinmotion on November 09, 2014, 11:04:21 am »
We have done a ton of touring with our little girl starting at about 1.5 years old. 

She had ridden in a Chariot stroller and is now on the back of my Surly Big Dummy. We done multiple week long trips, with one of the most recent being a trip along the Outer Banks. 

I think the best option is to plan on stopping often for little adventures!  Now that she is out of diapers, we have to cary a ton less stuff, and that is nice.

We also don't tend to camp on our cycling trips, which also makes things a little easier. 

Feel free to email us with questions.



I'm looking for some suggestions on a family friendly route (approximately 40 miles or less a day) within 4-5 hours of Montgomery Al. 

Less than 40 miles a day
hotels/hostels available each night so we don't have to camp
3 days on the bikes

Possible starting locations:
Mobile Al
Destin Fl
New Orleans

My initial thought is we should start somewhere slightly inland and make a 3 day loop circling along the coast, but I'm open to suggestions. 

We appreciate any help you can provide. 


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