@dombrosk - thanks - I think I understand, and agree as to the throw away bit. The price does make me cring though.
@staehpj1 - as for the GT54 being overkill is size - Yup. I travel much lighter. But all brands have a range, so there are always alternatives in each type.
@newfydog - Good input. but I will be on road - isn't that much easier on bags (less jaring, running into bushes...)??
@Bike Hermit - I looked at these. A possible, though the rear bags may be a bit big, and the front small.
@litespeed - it's comments like yours that led me to posting this question. You are not alone in your view. Oh, I'd love a set of Gordon's racks, but cant justify them at this time - I'd take a rock and road too!
Ahhh. decisions, decisions - lots of good into, but still looks like nothing that screams at me as to directions. Seems the lack of pockets are a minor annoyance for some, leading them to regular bags, but water is a big anoyance for those going to dry bags. My existing bags only have a surface mesh pocket anyway, and I don't have (but will be getting) a bar bag. Does that mean I should aim at dry bags???