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Offline raymondhensen170

Firearms
« on: March 12, 2013, 07:41:18 am »
I am from Holland. I have cycled a lot in Europe, but I have never been to the USA. I am planning to fill this huge gap in my resume by cycling from Los Angeles to Anchorage this coming summer. This will be quite an adventure and I have a few questions.

I generally don't use cycle routes,  I prefer to set my own course using a map. For me that is an important aspect of the enterprise. Alternatively I could follow the Pacific Coast Route. Now my questions are:

* Will it be OK to cycle using just US state maps?
* Which brand of maps is preferable? The best I have seen so far is 1 : 700 000. It is quite important for me that all the camp grounds are indicated.
* Are good state maps readily available at e.g. gas stations in the US and Canada?
* Or should I get the Pacific Coast route anyway although that means carrying a five-map set for less than half of my trip?

I'm looking forward to your advice,

Raymond

 

 

 
« Last Edit: March 12, 2013, 08:49:14 am by mdxix »

Offline Pat Lamb

Pacific coast route, not: Re: Firearms
« Reply #1 on: March 12, 2013, 09:17:42 am »
Apologies to OP, but that's not an appropriate title for this thread.

I am from Holland. I have cycled a lot in Europe, but I have never been to the USA. I am planning to fill this huge gap in my resume by cycling from Los Angeles to Anchorage this coming summer. This will be quite an adventure and I have a few questions.

I generally don't use cycle routes,  I prefer to set my own course using a map. For me that is an important aspect of the enterprise. Alternatively I could follow the Pacific Coast Route. Now my questions are:

You may not be aware that "cycle routes" in the U.S., particularly long routes, are probably not what you're used to in Europe.  You'll be routed on roads, often smaller, low traffic back roads, for most of the Pacific Coast and Sierra Crest routes.

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* Will it be OK to cycle using just US state maps?
* Which brand of maps is preferable? The best I have seen so far is 1 : 700 000. It is quite important for me that all the camp grounds are indicated.

I'd suggest you look at the Delorme maps.  State maps rarely devolve below state roads, and there's lots of county roads that are fine for cycling that won't show up on road maps the state Department of Transportation publishes.  And you'll probably have to buy a separate campground guide.

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* Are good state maps readily available at e.g. gas stations in the US and Canada?
* Or should I get the Pacific Coast route anyway although that means carrying a five-map set for less than half of my trip?

You can usually buy a state map at gas stations.  You can usually get one for free at a tourist information center or chamber of commerce.

Unless you want to carry the (big and heavy) Delorme maps, I'd recommend getting the Pacific Coast maps, and supplementing those with DOT state maps and local chamber of commerce information if you want to go off route..  They'll have more specific information on the attractions, campgrounds, motels, etc.  If you're camping, they'll save you their own cost within a few weeks.

Offline John Nelson

Re: Firearms
« Reply #2 on: March 12, 2013, 09:49:37 am »
I will paraphrase Carla from another thread:

I suggest you get in touch with the bicycle coordinators for the states you will travel through. Many have online resources as well as printed materials. Nearly every state publishes a bicycle map of some sort that they will send out for free and the coordinators often have more information they can distribute for no charge as well. And while the maps aren't as detailed as ours, they generally offer suggested roads for cycling through their state. Here is a link to the contact information for all of the bicycle coordinators:

http://www.walkinginfo.org/assistance/contacts.cfm

Offline Westinghouse

Re: Firearms
« Reply #3 on: March 12, 2013, 10:41:12 am »
California, Oregon, and Washington Departments of Transportation have cycling maps for the pacific coast bike route. Google maps has a designation especially for bicycles.


Offline Clem

Re: Firearms
« Reply #4 on: March 13, 2013, 08:21:38 am »
A couple of minor details:

If you are planning on going from South to North along the Pacific coast, you will be going against a significant headwind. Good luck. Most riders plan to ride from North to South. You might escape much of this by riding inland of the first major ridgeline.

If you are actually planning to bring a gun, consider that carry laws vary among the states, and that the only land route between Alaska and the Lower 48 states goes through Canada and they severely frown on handguns being brought into the country. Don’t spend your vacation in jail.

Offline BikeFreak

Re: Firearms
« Reply #5 on: March 13, 2013, 10:37:56 am »
The ACA maps are superb. They list paved roads that you will NEVER see on one of those US state maps. Of course, if you only want to stay on HWY 1 and 101, you will of course find those HWYs on the state maps. However, as you are approaching a large city, ACA maps takes you on small streets/roads around all the heavy traffic: You will never find these hidden roads on a state map. Your only chance is Google Maps where you can see these roads/streets.

Offline e46rick

Re: Firearms
« Reply #6 on: March 13, 2013, 12:38:56 pm »
I would suggest turning on your charm.  It will often eliminate the need for a firearm.

Offline johnsondasw

Re: Firearms
« Reply #7 on: March 13, 2013, 03:27:10 pm »
Why is it even titled "Firearms"? Did I miss something?  I don't even see firearms mentioned by the OP.
May the wind be at your back!

Offline DaveB

Re: Firearms
« Reply #8 on: March 13, 2013, 04:17:52 pm »
Why is it even titled "Firearms"? Did I miss something?  I don't even see firearms mentioned by the OP.
The OP is Dutch.  I don't think he realized the meaning.

Offline e46rick

Re: Firearms
« Reply #9 on: March 13, 2013, 05:14:00 pm »
Why is it even titled "Firearms"? Did I miss something?  I don't even see firearms mentioned by the OP.
The OP is Dutch.  I don't think he realized the meaning.

Or, it was a stroke of marketing genius for his thread.

Offline raymondhensen170

Re: Firearms
« Reply #10 on: March 14, 2013, 06:24:45 pm »
Well, originally I asked some other questions to start with, but these were removed by one of censors:

* Should I wear a bullet-proof vest all the time while cycling or just in the vicinity of schools?  ;)
* Under the second amendment, am I allowed to mount a submachine gun on my handle bar?  ;)

Which leaves me wondering if this seems not funny to the American mind or if the subject is too sensitive.  :-\

Anyway, thank you very much for your help.  :)




Offline DaveB

Re: Firearms
« Reply #11 on: March 14, 2013, 06:32:56 pm »
* Should I wear a bullet-proof vest all the time while cycling or just in the vicinity of schools?
If you are going to cycle in Norway or Scotland, by all means do so.

Offline e46rick

Re: Firearms
« Reply #12 on: March 14, 2013, 06:57:48 pm »
Well, originally I asked some other questions to start with, but these were removed by one of censors:

* Should I wear a bullet-proof vest all the time while cycling or just in the vicinity of schools?  ;)
* Under the second amendment, am I allowed to mount a submachine gun on my handle bar?  ;)

Which leaves me wondering if this seems not funny to the American mind or if the subject is too sensitive.  :-\

Anyway, thank you very much for your help.  :)

Most of us yanks are very willing to laugh at ourselves.  And some would even be in favor of allowing the handlebar mounted machine gun.

I'd say - stay light, ride fast, and the gun shots will probably miss you.

Offline windrath

Re: Firearms
« Reply #13 on: March 14, 2013, 08:21:44 pm »
The best routing resource for you in Canada and Alaska is The Milepost.  It pretty well details every mile of the highways through western Canada.  Going south to north will mean you have significant northbound rv traffic in June.  Took us about 30 days to ride from Fairbanks to Vancouver.  You will encounter significant gnats, mosquitoes, etc. that make camping no fun.  Expect the camp sites to be oriented towards RVs, so not very comfortable ground.  Unless you are stealth camping, don't need to worry too much about bears.

Good Luck - it is a fabulous ride.