I have 8,000 miles on 2 bikes with 2 Titanico's (not X). The black one that I bought first stretched almost to the rails but is still comfortable for 50 miles so I ride it like that. The other is white and blew 2 rivets 2 different times. The company sent me the rivets and offered to do the repair but I did it. The white did not stretch as much as the black. I started riding Anatomicas at 185# but ballooned to 200# and then the company changed the non-X cutoff to from 190# to 160# so I just ordered a Truleather X in natural. I tried a red X for a few miles and liked it a lot. My wife has a Legacy and bought another for a spare. We ride 6,000 miles a year and up to 50 miles a ride and would not use anything else.