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Title: Southern Tier 2017 Thread
Post by: PNWRider92 on November 28, 2016, 02:31:39 am
If you're doing the Southern Tier in 2017, post about it here!

I'm heading West ----> East
Departing San Diego on February 15, 2017
Will post my Instagram etc here as the date gets closer
Riding with one possibly two other riders
We'll be averaging somewhere around ~60 miles a day
Not trying to race
This isn't my first tour (did 5,177 miles Portland, OR ---> Portland, ME this summer) but will be the first for one of the riders

When do you leave? Solo/group? Blog links etc?

Hope to see you all out there!
Title: Re: Southern Tier 2017 Thread
Post by: ZiZohn on December 03, 2016, 07:51:16 pm
I'll be heading out from San Diego with 2 others on February 24th.

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Title: Re: Southern Tier 2017 Thread
Post by: PNWRider92 on December 04, 2016, 06:13:39 pm
How many miles per day do you think you'll be averaging? :)
Title: Re: Southern Tier 2017 Thread
Post by: ZiZohn on December 11, 2016, 01:31:07 am
We're trying to be realistic the first week or so since we'll be coming out from Iowa to start. Not usually many biking chances during December and January. But going to try and hit the gym and do some core workouts and stationary bike work. With that in mind, probably 40-50 miles is realistic, especially since we start climbing pretty quickly. But after that, we'll try to up the mileage to about 60-75 per day. The hope is to take a day off about every 7-10 days. But we're really in no big rush. If someone needs a little more time off, or wants a shorter day, we can do it. I am the "old guy of our little group at 63 years old. My son is 31, and our other buddy is mid-twenties. So I will probably be the one to need a shorter day here and there.
Title: Re: Southern Tier 2017 Thread
Post by: PNWRider92 on December 11, 2016, 01:51:47 am
Sounds good! We'll be taking a day off every 4-5 days I imagine. We're not in any big rush either. I'm by far the youngest of the group, about 40 years younger than the others. So I'll be riding at their pace.

My trip this summer was full of 100+ mile days. I was alone and found out I was pushing myself too hard.

Excited to slow down and take it easy.

You might catch us if you keep the pace you're intending!
Title: Re: Southern Tier 2017 Thread
Post by: ZiZohn on December 11, 2016, 02:35:45 am
In 2014, I signed up for the ACA Southern Tier Self-contained ride, along with 14 others. Second day out, 3 of us had issues with the heat. I actually passed out when I stopped to cool off under an yawning at a 7-11, coming to with my bike lying on top of me. Locals said it was because of the hurricane that went through Mexico a week earlier that messed with the weather patterns. They said it wasn't usually that humid when it was that hot.  I wasn't able to recuperate fast enough to continue the ride with the group, so flew back home. The other 2 did the same. Actually took me close to a week before I felt 100% again.  I did rejoin the ride, catching the group in Austin, and went the rest of the way to St. Augustine. Really had a good time. But I said at the time, I was going to come back out here and do it again. Worked out that February was a good time for me to do it this time. So shouldn't have the nasty heat like the last trip.
Title: Re: Southern Tier 2017 Thread
Post by: PNWRider92 on December 11, 2016, 02:52:04 am
I debated between an early February and early March departure due to the heat. Settled in the middle with February 15. I don't do very well in the heat so it's a concern of mine. I handle the cold much better. When it's cold you can just keep adding clothes. When it's hot you can only take so much off, legally  ::)

With that said; I did run into a few days of temperatures over 105*F in Eastern Washington on my tour this summer. They were disgusting but I survived.

Glad you're okay! Heat stroke is no joke.
Title: Re: Southern Tier 2017 Thread
Post by: jimbo on December 27, 2016, 11:15:30 pm
Five of us will be starting March 1 from SD.  Self-contained and camping (mostly) .  Mostly 60+ year olds and coming from NY with no outside riding since Oct so we will start slow;  but service availability or lack of somewhat sets the pace for the first few weeks. We plan on taking 60 days with some 1/2 days off and some side trips. Severe weather will most likely mess with the schedule.
Title: Re: Southern Tier 2017 Thread
Post by: PNWRider92 on December 28, 2016, 12:00:24 am
I doubt weather will me much of an issue. You might run into some monsoon rains but nothing that'll cause massive delays.

We'll be self contained and camping the entire was as well.

Also will be doing some side trips :) Where will you be taking side trips to?
Title: Re: Southern Tier 2017 Thread
Post by: jimbo on December 28, 2016, 06:31:15 am
Side trips via rental car to Big Bend NP; Carlsbad Caverns; and probably bike into New Orleans.

Weather.... Head winds could be a factor for cutting down mileage somedays... Heavy rains in TX and LA might as well. Nothing scary unless tornado season starts early... 😱  It's part of the adventure.

This is my 4 th xc trip since age 62 so I've experienced just about the full range of weather. If you start a week ahead of us I doubt we will " catch up" to your group. In any event stay safe.
Jim
Title: Re: Southern Tier 2017 Thread
Post by: PNWRider92 on December 28, 2016, 09:54:25 pm
We'll be biking into Big Bend NP and into New Orleans as well. Maybe Baton Rouge. And White Sands NP. No cars involved. So we'll do slightly more than the 3,100 miles. None of those places are too far off of the route. So maybe you'll catch us since we'll be doing those side trips.

Headwinds shouldn't be a problem heading west ---> east. I'd be more worried about hurricane season starting early.

This is my 6th long distance tour and I'm in my 20s.

Can't wait.
Title: Re: Southern Tier 2017 Thread
Post by: jimbo on January 02, 2017, 07:19:41 am
Ty,

Your are a good role model for " young " cyclist with that much touring under your belt!

BTW the prevailing winds along the ST route are not westerlies. It's a very mixed bag. Look at maps of wind directions for US, and read ST blogs posted on " Crazy Guy" . Nevertheless we shall prevail.

I had not thought about White Sands.....nice side trip.

jim
Title: Re: Southern Tier 2017 Thread
Post by: PNWRider92 on January 02, 2017, 03:28:59 pm
Thank you!

The two friends of mine who've done the Southern Tier have had westerlies 90% of the trip. I'm going to stay positive and hope 2017 is the same! :) But yes regardless we'll make it. Can't be any worse than that 50 mph headwind in South Dakota this summer. Nothing like pedaling for an hour and realizing you've only gone 3 miles.

White Sands has always been on my bucket list. We'll also do the ACA alternate route to Gila Cliff Dwellings that's on the ACA maps.
Title: Re: Southern Tier 2017 Thread
Post by: wjorns on January 10, 2017, 03:38:33 pm
I'm heading East to West about the same time - so maybe we'll meet in the middle!  I'm planning/hoping to do 75-100 miles a day, mainly camping with hotels once a week or so.

I just received my maps and I have a question on lodging for the first night out of St Augustine.  I don't see any recommended hotels or campgrounds in maps 107 or 106.  It being the first day I wanted to do 50-75 miles.  I can always do TripAdvisor or the like for a hotel, but I was wondering if there was a recommended campground in the area of maps 107 or 106.

thx,

Will
Title: Re: Southern Tier 2017 Thread
Post by: PNWRider92 on January 10, 2017, 03:47:08 pm
Twin Lakes Fishing & Camp in Hawthorne is probably your best bet. The campground closest to the route has closed down. Twin Lakes is 70-80 miles west of St. Augustine depending on which route you take.
Title: Re: Southern Tier 2017 Thread
Post by: wjorns on January 15, 2017, 12:58:51 pm
Suggestions on transport from Jacksonville to St Augustine?  Any recommendations on mode and bike shop to ship bike to in St Augustine?
Thx,
Will

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Title: Re: Southern Tier 2017 Thread
Post by: wjorns on January 15, 2017, 01:02:50 pm
Twin Lakes Fishing & Camp in Hawthorne is probably your best bet. The campground closest to the route has closed down. Twin Lakes is 70-80 miles west of St. Augustine depending on which route you take.
Thx Ty.  Are you familiar with the area?  Did you do a Google search?

Thx again,

Will

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Title: Re: Southern Tier 2017 Thread
Post by: John Nettles on January 15, 2017, 01:04:16 pm
Personally, I would just ride from Jacksonville along the coast.  It is only a 1 day ride.  Best, John
Title: Re: Southern Tier 2017 Thread
Post by: ZiZohn on January 15, 2017, 01:51:17 pm
I know that going from Ajax to St. Augustine there are people that advertise shuttle service. You can probably Google one for the opposite way. But one of our guys rode it. Took one day. There is a bike shop close to the end that broke our bikes down and shipped them home. We stayed at the Pirate Hostel and only had to walk about a mile back from the bike shop. But don't remember the name. Sorry.
Title: Re: Southern Tier 2017 Thread
Post by: Cycle_w/MS on January 15, 2017, 03:57:04 pm
Currently in Bradenton, FL area and will be starting the Southern Tier this month.  Looking at heading up between January 25th - 28th range.  As for transportation, I was debating on cycling the 220 miles to the starting point or just renting a suv.  After checking with Expedia, an SUV is only $49 and I can drop it off at the St. Augustine air terminal.  It looks like that would only put me north of starting point by a few miles.
Title: Re: Southern Tier 2017 Thread
Post by: MrBent on January 15, 2017, 04:20:12 pm
Just drove the section between Apache Junct. and the summit of 60 to the east.  That's some nasty riding in there.  It wouldn't be so bad going east-west because you'd be headed downhill and get through it quickly.  I saw one guy pushing his loaded bike uphill headed east.  Did not envy him.  Watch out for that bit for sure--high traffic, trucks, many places with no shoulder.  Ugh.  Might want to check into riding around the north side of the Superstitions, but that will have it's own challenges for sure.

Best of luck!  I'm feeling the need for another long tour.  Haven't been on one since 2012.

Scott
Title: Re: Southern Tier 2017 Thread
Post by: JHamelman on January 17, 2017, 09:23:31 am
Just drove the section between Apache Junct. and the summit of 60 to the east.  That's some nasty riding in there.  It wouldn't be so bad going east-west because you'd be headed downhill and get through it quickly.  I saw one guy pushing his loaded bike uphill headed east.  Did not envy him.  Watch out for that bit for sure--high traffic, trucks, many places with no shoulder.  Ugh.  Might want to check into riding around the north side of the Superstitions, but that will have it's own challenges for sure.

Best of luck!  I'm feeling the need for another long tour.  Haven't been on one since 2012.

Scott

This section of US 60 is part of why we did a major reroute on the Southern Tier in late 2015: Major Route Change: Southern Tier in AZ and NM (https://www.adventurecycling.org/resources/blog/major-route-change-southern-tier-in-arizona-and-new-mexico/?).

Jennifer
Title: Re: Southern Tier 2017 Thread
Post by: MrBent on January 17, 2017, 10:22:22 am
Thanks, Jennifer.  Good news.

Scott
Title: Re: Southern Tier 2017 Thread
Post by: PNWRider92 on January 19, 2017, 10:00:59 pm
Twin Lakes Fishing & Camp in Hawthorne is probably your best bet. The campground closest to the route has closed down. Twin Lakes is 70-80 miles west of St. Augustine depending on which route you take.
Thx Ty.  Are you familiar with the area?  Did you do a Google search?

Thx again,

Will

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Basic general knowledge of the area. Friends who go to school at UF in Gainesville. Been a few times.
Title: Re: Southern Tier 2017 Thread
Post by: PNWRider92 on January 19, 2017, 10:02:18 pm
Just drove the section between Apache Junct. and the summit of 60 to the east.  That's some nasty riding in there.  It wouldn't be so bad going east-west because you'd be headed downhill and get through it quickly.  I saw one guy pushing his loaded bike uphill headed east.  Did not envy him.  Watch out for that bit for sure--high traffic, trucks, many places with no shoulder.  Ugh.  Might want to check into riding around the north side of the Superstitions, but that will have it's own challenges for sure.

Best of luck!  I'm feeling the need for another long tour.  Haven't been on one since 2012.

Scott

This section of US 60 is part of why we did a major reroute on the Southern Tier in late 2015: Major Route Change: Southern Tier in AZ and NM (https://www.adventurecycling.org/resources/blog/major-route-change-southern-tier-in-arizona-and-new-mexico/?).

Jennifer

Hey Jennifer. I purchased my maps back in October. Is that change on the newest version of the maps or noted clearly in the printed notes that came along with them? They're already in San Diego so can't take a look. Or should I print off what you linked? Thanks!
Title: Re: Southern Tier 2017 Thread
Post by: MrBent on January 19, 2017, 11:49:33 pm
I did a Google street view of some sections of this Hwy 60 workaround, and it looks pretty good, especially the Bee Line Highway--divided road and good looking shoulders.
Title: Re: Southern Tier 2017 Thread
Post by: PNWRider92 on January 20, 2017, 06:39:18 pm
Disregard Jennifer. I viewed the link and saw where it said it was on the new maps.
Title: Re: Southern Tier 2017 Thread
Post by: PNWRider92 on January 20, 2017, 06:39:49 pm
I did a Google street view of some sections of this Hwy 60 workaround, and it looks pretty good, especially the Bee Line Highway--divided road and good looking shoulders.

Good to know!
Title: Re: Southern Tier 2017 Thread
Post by: ian123running on January 23, 2017, 04:48:11 pm
All,

Southern Tier West to East starting n San Diego at the end of Feb 2017

We are an Brit / USA couple living in UK and we love to cycle tour.  Time for a longer challenge.....so we bought the Adventure Cycling map set and no turning back now.  This was mainly inspired last year when we met quite a few people in Glacier and Yellowstone NPs etc doing the northern routes - they all had the Adventure Cycling maps and made us realise there is cycle touring beyond Europe.

We are planning to cycle the Southern Tier route west to east, starting in San Diego in  late February - we've not yet booked flights but will update on this thread.

We will be on our tandem and camping where possible.  We use a trailer and try to keep the weight down but suspect this time we'll need to carry more supplies than usual.    We will not be doing the daily mileage that some of you manage but hope to get across in 10 weeks or so.

More to follow including some questions but just thought we'd introduce ourselves in case there are others staring at a similar time.

Jimbo maybe we'll see you and your group ?  March 1st is right in our window!

Thanks,  Ian and Jeannine


Title: Re: Southern Tier 2017 Thread
Post by: MrBent on January 23, 2017, 05:49:50 pm
Fantastic, Ian and Jeanine!  Keep us posted.  Lots of great info and experience on this forum.

Best of luck.  Sounds like a perfect time to start the tour.

Scott
Title: Re: Southern Tier 2017 Thread
Post by: jimbo on January 24, 2017, 08:44:11 am
Ian,
I sent you a personal message..yes there are 6  of us;  self-contained; camping;  and leaving March 1. "Plan" to finish in 8 weeks with side trips to Big Bend and New Orleans. Great to have company on the route!
Jim
Title: Re: Southern Tier 2017 Thread
Post by: ian123running on January 24, 2017, 05:51:59 pm
Cool - I have replied.  Our start date looks similar but we will be allowing about 10 weeks I think, maybe finishing in Orlando for flight back to UK.  We hope to meet up with you in San Diego and will keep in touch!

Cheers,

Ian and Jeannine
Title: Re: Southern Tier 2017 Thread
Post by: ian123running on February 04, 2017, 04:33:35 am
Jim - we fly in to San Diego on 28 Feb (pm) so maybe could meet you at the beach to see you off, assuming you still plan to start on the 1st.   We'll be starting our ride a few days after you and doubt we'll catch you up!

We'll have a USA phone a few days before we reach San Diego so will be in touch with our cell number.   Not long now... gulp...!

Cheers,

Ian and Jeannine

   
Title: Re: Southern Tier 2017 Thread
Post by: jimbo on February 07, 2017, 02:55:13 pm
Hi Ian,

Yes we are "set" to start on March 1. Our rental house contract ends that AM. We have to leave! I have since exchanged messages with two couples self-supported on tandem recumbents who are also leaving 3/1. We can party at the start point, but our group is notorious for very early starts..tho not pre dawn from this starting place ...but probably around  sun up.
Title: Re: Southern Tier 2017 Thread
Post by: indyfabz on February 17, 2017, 01:19:27 pm
FYI...I heard the OP was struck and injured in CA when a car turned in front of him, presumably during the first few days of his tour. Last word is that he's in the hospital with rib and other injuries.
Title: Re: Southern Tier 2017 Thread
Post by: MrBent on February 17, 2017, 01:49:57 pm
Damn!  That sucks.  Hope he's okay.  Sounds like the tour is over.  Freakin' drivers.
Title: Re: Southern Tier 2017 Thread
Post by: jimbo on February 17, 2017, 02:00:36 pm
OP?  Who is that?
Title: Re: Southern Tier 2017 Thread
Post by: indyfabz on February 17, 2017, 02:09:10 pm
OP?  Who is that?
In forum lingo, "OP" stands for "original poster". I.e., the person who started this thread. (It can also stand for "original post," depending on the context of the comment.
Title: Re: Southern Tier 2017 Thread
Post by: jimbo on February 17, 2017, 02:11:01 pm
Ah ha...never knew.  Thanks!
Title: Re: Southern Tier 2017 Thread
Post by: Slowroll on February 18, 2017, 03:30:16 pm
What a huge bummer! This is a major issue for all of us - I really wish our roads were designed better to accommodate bicycles!

Here's hoping the OP will be able to check in very soon and let us know status - thoughts and prayers to you!
Title: Re: Southern Tier 2017 Thread
Post by: wjorns on February 27, 2017, 04:40:21 pm
Any suggestions for shortening the route through Texas?  The route as it stands is 1069.5 miles. I would like a more direct route if possible as I'd like to make up some time.
Title: Re: Southern Tier 2017 Thread
Post by: ian123running on March 03, 2017, 10:38:48 pm
We set out today, 3 March,from Dog Beach, San Diego.  Luckily the flood waters had receded so a nice ride up into the hills.  We've already met two other Southern Tier groups going our way.  Look out for us with our blue tandem and yellow trailer bag.

Ian and Jeannine.
Title: Re: Southern Tier 2017 Thread
Post by: PNWRider92 on March 23, 2017, 05:36:36 pm
What a huge bummer! This is a major issue for all of us - I really wish our roads were designed better to accommodate bicycles!

Here's hoping the OP will be able to check in very soon and let us know status - thoughts and prayers to you!

In reply to all of the above comments;

Doing better, thanks! A short summary....

On 2/14 I had food poisoning really bad to a point where I was throwing up everywhere. On the morning of 2/15 I felt better and met my riding partner in Old Town San Diego where we biked the few miles to the starting point at Ocean Beach Park, dipped our rear tires into the Pacific Ocean and then started heading east. The ride was going great until we hit the Mission Gorge area. It was around 80*F and my stomach started hurting again. Outside of Alpine we stopped for a break at an RV park and inquired about camping there for the night. The RV park didn't allow tents and despite our pleas they didn't budge. I let my riding partner go ahead to secure a campsite at a campground about 11 miles east on the other side of Alpine. Shortly after he left I started throwing up again and sat there for an hour before another Southern Tier rider, a girl named Rebecca, came upon me. She offered to ride the last 11 miles with me to the campground and I accepted. I was still feeling sick but it was early afternoon and wanted to get to the campground to rest since I couldn't stay where I was at anyway. A few miles later as we were on Olde Highway 80* outside of Alpine a car driven by an 84-year-old lady made a sudden right turn in front of me. Never saw it. Never had a chance to brake. I don't remember anything from the accident but according to the police reports I hit the passenger side door of the car and ended up on the other side of the car. The lady was confused and twice asked the police why they were there during the investigation. She told the police she noticed at the last moment she was about to miss her turn and she turned (without looking....). She was charged with reckless driving and her license was suspended. No bike lane in this section but a good shoulder. That's irrelevant though. I broke 3 ribs, punctured both lungs, broke a bone in my right foot, suffered a mild concussion, tore my spleen and tore a tendon in my right hand. I spent 10 days at a hospital in San Diego before being released. I'm currently on week 3 of an 8 week physical therapy regime. Otherwise I had an MRI on Tuesday to see how bad the damage is on my right foot. Doctors originally thought I'd be better off letting it heal as is because surgery would do more damage than good but it hasn't healed like they'd thought. Anxiously waiting to hear back about the results. Headaches are a daily thing but I've gotten use to them. Doctors are optimistic that I'll be back on a bike around May. Hoping to do a short tour in July that I'd already had planned before the accident. My bike was totaled beyond repair.   

Two important things here; 1. My helmet... Based on the damage I'm certain I'd be dead had I not been wearing it. 2. I hit the car instead of her hitting me. I'm also certain I'd be dead had she hit me instead of me hitting her.

*At least one news outlet said I was on "Olde Highway 8" but Highway 8 is the interstate that parallels Olde Highway 80

My riding partner was a guy named Larry so hope some of you met him. Rebecca made is as far as Phoenix and decided to call it quits.

Anyway, I think that covers it for now.

Edit: Also make sure you carry your ID on you. I made a stupid mistake and didn't have an ID on me. They weren't able to figure out who I was for almost 2 days.
Title: Re: Southern Tier 2017 Thread
Post by: ian123running on April 10, 2017, 09:38:59 pm
Ty,  thanks so much for the update - sounds like a nasty one but glad to hear you are at least looking towards riding again this summer.
For us (fingers crossed) the Southern Tier has so far been pretty much perfect - I can only remember 2 or 3 drivers that I would criticise in over 2000 miles from San Diego.   I'm from the UK and am totally enjoying USA cycling, and general hospitality.
Ian
Title: Re: Southern Tier 2017 Thread
Post by: pablough on April 11, 2017, 05:11:13 pm
I am doing a portion of the southern tier and a portion of the Atlantic coast. Starting at Navasota to Jacksonville Florida; then North to Baltimore, Maryland to raise money for cancer research. MD Anderson cancer center to Johns Hopkins cancer center in Baltimore. I will be starting at about noon on Thursday 4/13/17. My website is 2wheelsagainstcancer.com
Title: Re: Southern Tier 2017 Thread
Post by: PNWRider92 on April 14, 2017, 04:56:35 pm
Ty,  thanks so much for the update - sounds like a nasty one but glad to hear you are at least looking towards riding again this summer.
For us (fingers crossed) the Southern Tier has so far been pretty much perfect - I can only remember 2 or 3 drivers that I would criticise in over 2000 miles from San Diego.   I'm from the UK and am totally enjoying USA cycling, and general hospitality.
Ian

Thanks Ian! One of my close friends is from Abberley, Worcestershire. She goes to school in New Mexico. Glad your trip is going well.
Title: Re: Southern Tier 2017 Thread
Post by: PNWRider92 on April 14, 2017, 04:57:49 pm
I am doing a portion of the southern tier and a portion of the Atlantic coast. Starting at Navasota to Jacksonville Florida; then North to Baltimore, Maryland to raise money for cancer research. MD Anderson cancer center to Johns Hopkins cancer center in Baltimore. I will be starting at about noon on Thursday 4/13/17. My website is 2wheelsagainstcancer.com

Good luck. My ride last year was for cancer. Will check out your website. You can find mine on my Instagram at Portland_2_Portland or it may be in my profile on here. Not sure.
Title: Re: Southern Tier 2017 Thread
Post by: hospengr on April 26, 2017, 05:55:44 pm
I am signed up for the ACA Self Contained tour departing San Diego September 10.  Bought a new 2017 Trek 520 - haven't even had it out yet!  Looking forward to this trip - my first tour. 
Title: Re: Southern Tier 2017 Thread
Post by: PNWRider92 on April 26, 2017, 08:07:18 pm
Have fun! Keep us updated on it! :)
Title: Re: Southern Tier 2017 Thread
Post by: hospengr on November 22, 2017, 11:38:09 pm
Just finished the ST last week, on an ACA tour.  What a fantastic adventure.  Below is the link to my blog of this epic journey.  As this was my first bike tour ever, I was so moved that I will be doing other routes about every two years, giving the alternate years to my love to vacation as she sees fit!  2018 will see an RV caravan adventure to Alaska!   

http://crafted102.blogspot.com/
Title: Re: Southern Tier 2017 Thread
Post by: jsieber on November 27, 2017, 11:37:14 am
Just finished the ST last week, on an ACA tour.  What a fantastic adventure.  Below is the link to my blog of this epic journey.  As this was my first bike tour ever, I was so moved that I will be doing other routes about every two years, giving the alternate years to my love to vacation as she sees fit!  2018 will see an RV caravan adventure to Alaska!   

http://crafted102.blogspot.com/

Thanks for sharing your blog. Sounds like it was a fantastic trip!