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Bicycle Travel => Gear Talk => Topic started by: jwrushman on March 21, 2017, 08:27:54 pm
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I like to carry a thermometer when backpacking. I've been using a AcuRite Suction Cup Thermometer - I just take the suction cup off it. The first one worked well, the replacement was not so good - erratic temperature readings. What I like about it is:
1) small and lightweight
2) inexpensive - about $10 on Amazon
3) Gives daily minimum and maximum temps
4) Relatively large, easy-to-read, digital display.
But first and foremost, it's nice if a thermometer gives reasonably accurate temperatures! Within a couple a degrees would be fine.
I'd like a thermometer for an upcoming ride and am interested in recommendations.
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If you are riding a bike like this...
(http://mowabb.com/aimages/images/07-14-04.jpg)
then I suggest a weather rock...
(http://mowabb.com/aimages/images/07-10-04.jpg)
Either way, enjoy the ride.
Jay
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I tried one of those zipper pull ones. It was light and cheap and gave a general idea of the temperature, but it wasn't easy to get a very precise reading. Mine was an REI house branded one. As long as you don't need too much precision it is okay.
I have since started using a cyclo-computer (planet bike) that has a built in thermometer. I like it very well. It is surprisingly accurate as long as you are either in the shade or moving. It heats up in the sun when sitting still, but I never found that to be a problem since when I read it I was generally either parked in the shade or riding.
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If you carry a cell phone and remain in an area with coverage, your phone should have a weather app that will give you the current temperature and projection for that day. You would also have internet access (assuming you have a data plan) to the various commercial or government weather sites for both forecasts and history.
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If you carry a cell phone and remain in an area with coverage, your phone should have a weather app that will give you the current temperature and projection for that day. You would also have internet access (assuming you have a data plan) to the various commercial or government weather sites for both forecasts and history.
The problem with that is that a lot of the time on tour when I have cared the most about what the temperature was I was on top of a pass or somewhere that would be a lot different than the nearest weather station which even if you count all the little personal ones on WeatherUnderground, might be far away and thousands of feet different in elevation. The differences can be pretty substantial.
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If you carry a cell phone and remain in an area with coverage, your phone should have a weather app that will give you the current temperature and projection for that day. You would also have internet access (assuming you have a data plan) to the various commercial or government weather sites for both forecasts and history.
The problem with that is that a lot of the time on tour when I have cared the most about what the temperature was I was on top of a pass or somewhere that would be a lot different than the nearest weather station which even if you count all the little personal ones on WeatherUnderground, might be far away and thousands of feet different in elevation. The differences can be pretty substantial.
That's right for current temperature at your exact location and for that info a little zipper-pull or similar thermometer is truly local. However, the OP also wanted the daily temperature history and the cell phone app is about the best way to get that.
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That's right for current temperature at your exact location and for that info a little zipper-pull or similar thermometer is truly local. However, the OP also wanted the daily temperature history and the cell phone app is about the best way to get that.
It depends on what the OP really wants. I took their list as a "nice to have" feature list, since it was stated as what they liked about the Accurite.
A history of what nearby local stations report can be of 20 or even more degrees from the actual conditions where you are in the desert or the mountains. So I think any one solution may be pretty limited.
I guess you pick and choose what you want/need and use what suits that. I'd think that a combination of a cyclo-computer or zipper pull thermometer for local conditions along with the cell phone for forecasts probably covers the bases pretty well for most folks.
For myself, I seldom actually look at the forecast and mostly rely on just local observations. I typically only record observations is they are for some reason exceptional. Others may want more.
If what you want is a record after the fact you can always peruse the local stations at the times and places you were, but again they may differ substantially if you are at substantially different elevations than the nearest stations.
For a weather enthusiast something like the Kestrel 5000 might be nice. It is essentially a full featured hand held weather station.
Lots of different answers may suit any individual, but they are are compromises in one way or another.
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+1 on the zipper pull thermometer. It's partially for finding out how well you need to cover up before you get started (do you need long gloves and/or tights?), but mostly for bragging: "When we camped out at Guffey it was 25 degrees the next morning!"
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I say find a thermometer in something that you are already using and will have with you. My Planet Bike computer has a thermometer in it. It is totally worthless in many ways and will read 120 when parked in the sun in the middle of the day. However, first thing in the morning before the sun has baked the thing out it will be correct. So when I am cold and drinking coffee and I see the thing reads 44, it is mostly correct.
Garmin makes a do-dad that will send the temp to some Garmin units. You could mount the do-dad in some out of the way spot on your bike, like zip tied to a saddle rail or something and maybe have the same functionality as one built into a bike computer. This will satisfy keeping track of the temp as it will be recorded in the gpx file for the day.
There must be other items like those which are available. However, I doubt if any option will be approaching the $10 solution you have already found. That is pretty inexpensive.
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Most thermometers are going to be useless for what you want. The biggest problem is where to put it where its readings won't be distorted. You can't put it on your body, nor in your bags. You need to put it in a well-ventilated shady spot that won't get reflected heat off the pavement. Where are you going to find that on a bicycle?
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Most thermometers are going to be useless for what you want. The biggest problem is where to put it where its readings won't be distorted. You can't put it on your body, nor in your bags. You need to put it in a well-ventilated shady spot that won't get reflected heat off the pavement. Where are you going to find that on a bicycle?
I find that the one in my Planet Bike cyclocomputer works surprisingly well. Obviously it will give inaccurate readings if you park it in the sun, but if either riding at a decent clip or parked in the shade I find the readings typically fairly closely match official readings for the area.
My zipper pull thermometer was clipped on the zipper of my handle bar bag a few trips. It was okay as long as I read it when it had been in the shade for a while. Since I look for shade when I stop in hot weather I can usually read it a few times throughout the day.
Of course any thermometer will give bad readings if you put it in the blazing sun, so when shade is super scarce nothing I have used is satisfactory.
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The hard part is that "daily minimum and maximum" requirement. The thermometer has to stay out of the sun continuously all day.
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Thanks all, for your input. Although I like the simplicity of the Larry and Kathy Weatherstation (no batteries needed, clear instruction manual), I did more shopping on Amazon and found something that looks reasonable. A digital thermometer from Flexzion got pretty good customer review, is only $13 and weighs less than an ounce. Most of the ones I see for camping are too bulky and have features I don't think I'll need (altimeter, barometer, weather forecast features). The Kestrel 5000 (and even the 3000) is a bit out of my budget. I'm not so much a weather nerd. I like to know, for example, if I was freezing in my sleeping bag, just how cold it got over night.
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The hard part is that "daily minimum and maximum" requirement. The thermometer has to stay out of the sun continuously all day.
Agreed that the maximum temperature where you actually are is a tall order. The minimum on the other hand will usually come when it is dark or at least not sunny, so that is easier to record.
Thinking back to my tours, probably in excess of 95% of the time the low is overnight or more often around dawn. In those cases looking at it when I get up in the morning yields a close approximation. There have been a few cases where the low was in the evening while still riding when there was a high pass crossed late in the day, but again it comes at a time when I am likely to take notice of the reading. So just noting the low, while not automatic, is pretty easy. Similarly the high pretty much always comes at a time when I can note it manually if I care to.
Since the OP said the list was of the things they "liked about" the acurite that they had, I didn't take that to mean they were a hard requirements. Something has to give somewhere if you are to capture high and low reading on the bike. At the very least you are likely to have false readings on the high end with anything that reads constantly. For me a good compromise is something that I can watch throughout the day and choose to read when it isn't prone to excessively high false readings.
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What are you going to use the information for? Noting it in your journal? Check if the roads are in danger of freezing?
I used to carry a zipper pull thermometer. Then on one trip a few years ago, I realized that I hadn't been carrying it for several years. I hadn't missed it. I choose to go minimal, go light.
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I used to carry a zipper pull thermometer. Then on one trip a few years ago, I realized that I hadn't been carrying it for several years. I hadn't missed it. I choose to go minimal, go light.
I can relate to that sentiment, but 1/4 ounce for a zipper pull thermometer or zero additional ounces for a bike computer with a temperature function are not going to make the difference in whether you are or are not travelling light IMO.
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I like to record the temperature in my journal. When I'm feeling miserable, it gives me some justification. I didn't think about roads freezing. I hope that's not a problem in July, but I guess the weather is never predictable around Glacier NP. For me, the zipper-pull thermometers are just too small for me to read easily or to get a very accurate reading.
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Yeah, sorry if I came across a little cranky. I'm more inclined to skip things like that because it's just one more thing to deal with. I actually would like a thermometer for commuting to work, which I do all year in a northern climate. It would help me to calibrate my clothing, which is a bigger challenge below freezing.
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I just used a meat thermometer on my last tour. I stuck it down in my feed bag. It's very fast to get to the temp, accurate, easy to read on the fly, doesn't cost much (free from the kitchen). Much better than the zipper ones. Mine also has a cover with a clip for a pocket. Not sure if that would affect the temp. Probably not once it acclimated. Doesn't do high/low of course but I'm usually riding in the highs so I can just read it. And, the low, as others have said are usually near dawn which is about the time I wake up. YMMV I tried to attach a file but it isn't showing up in the preview??
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I mostly use the garmin gps temperature reading. When I ride in the hot sun it is enough to cover it with a cloth or a light glove and the temperature readings are acurate.
Other times, the map holder on my handlebar bag overlaps the gps and shades it.
I try to avoid to much resundancy (the gps has a tenperature reading, the cell phone also has a temperature sensor).
Since I already have both the hps and the cell phone for other purposes, it's inexpensive.
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I used to go for a mercury thermometer, but since I heard it can be very dangerous having it in the house, I stopped immediately. Now, I switched to an infrared thermometer and so far, I really like it. It’s way easier to use and I definitely more accurate, since the technology is way more advanced. I actually bought it from an online shop, that supplies directly from the seller and is specialised in medical equipment. You can find more (https://dunbarmedical.com/products/clinic-equipment-supplies/diagnostic-tool/infrared-thermometer/irt-1603-digital-infrared-thermometer/) here if you want to check out their offers. I can fully rely on them being professional and having very good prices. I use the thermometer pretty often now, so I might end up buying another one.
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Whoever told you it was dangerous to have a mercury thermometer in your house is an alarmist. If you don't break the glass and make contact with the mercury, there is no danger.
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They make one that is a steering tube cap. You can get either a clock or a thermometer. You wont have it inside your tent but it also wont be effected by artificial temp from your body heat. I have seen them on Amazon I think but do not recall the brand.
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The two recent look-a-like posters behave like bots - re-opening long dead threads with keyword-triggered responses.
Not clear we need to respond.
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The two recent look-a-like posters behave like bots - re-opening long dead threads with keyword-triggered responses.
Not clear we need to respond.
Yeah one replies to some years old post and the other replies to that within minutes. It is usually some kind of bizarre topic. I'd block them, but I don't see a block function. At least there are only a few posts from them so they are pretty harmless so far, but their posts are odd to say the least.
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It would be great if the original posting date was more obvious. I always look for new posts since last visit and read the last couple of posts. When it is a multiple page post I do not often go to page 1 to look at the origination date - need to check better.
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IIRC, I used to have a cycle computer that also told the temperature. That being said, I carry a whistle that has a compass on one side and a thermometer on the other. Mostly I am interested in the temp in the morning so I can dress appropriately for the riding.
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There are 'data people' and 'non-data people', and never the twain shall meet.
I get the temperature thrown in the mix on an altimeter wristwatch, which usually resides on the handlebars. I rarely make particular note of the temperature (life-threatening events aside), but altitude is interesting to track. Want to know how much climbing there is in each state on the TA? If you find it desirable information, you'll know how far along you are on a 2000 ft climb. And there's the occasional 'that's why I'm tired' revelation.
The original poster who just wanted a thermometer lives at one end of the techno curve. I live in the middle. The GPS- equipped are wondering why this guy is going on about his altimeter.
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