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Title: Dynamo - What are you using for a light?
Post by: Colorado.Michael on October 21, 2019, 11:00:57 pm
If you have a dynamo setup...

What are you using for a light for touring and why?

I bought a Busch and Muller IQ-X used on ebay and it's failing right out of the gate. Feels like a faulty switch, but I did get enough performance out of it to know what to expect from it now. It's my first real headlamp of this magnitude, and I don't want to go backwards again on lighting. I am running a Shutter Precision Dynamo hub. I have a Sinewave revolution already installed, so I don't need a USB charger in the mix. So I am thinking another IQ-X or going with the Son Edelux II instead so I have something to compare it too. I also have the B&M tail light that pulsates when stopping. Regardless of the pulsating, I like how bright and big it is and let's people know I am there for sure. What I don't like about the IQ-X is there is a cache battery in the tail light that doesn't go out for the first couple of minutes that you stop. If you suddenly had to go stealth for any reason, it's not the most ideal get away vehicle metaphorically speaking. But the lights work nice when they do work for the most part.

Should I just do the Edelux instead? Seems to be the best selling headlight in that class, although I think that has to do more with them just naturally being sold with Son hubs as well and by default that is why they probably sell more naturally I am guessing.

Thoughts?

Title: Re: Dynamo - What are you using for a light?
Post by: John Nettles on October 21, 2019, 11:05:47 pm
Check out Peter White Cycles excellent headlight pages.  I use a SON dynamo with a Edelux with no issues.  However, I rarely use it at night, more for day time riding in traffic and to charge my stuff.
Tailwinds, John
P.S. Like you I will be on tour for a couple of weeks beginning tomorrow in South Texas so this is my last post.
Title: Re: Dynamo - What are you using for a light?
Post by: Colorado.Michael on October 21, 2019, 11:11:14 pm
Well then God's speed to you and I hope it's wonderful for you!
Title: Re: Dynamo - What are you using for a light?
Post by: Pat Lamb on October 22, 2019, 09:43:08 am
I've got a B&M IQ Premium Cyo on one bike, and a Schmidt Edelux (the original) on another.  They'll be starting their sixth and third winter commuting Real Soon Now (actually, I guess they already started...).  The Cyo replaced an older Cyo R because, well, it was brighter and newer!  After a year and a half of switching the lights on and off, I just leave them on now.  Drag is imperceptible, and it's one less thing to worry about.  I've had zero problems with any of the three headlights.

To be honest, I got them for riding brevets and commuting, which is now mostly commuting.  I'm usually in bed with the sun when touring.  They're still useful while touring to make sure a sudden shower doesn't catch me without lights for extra visibility -- as has happened when I didn't realize some batteries were going flat.
Title: Dynamo - What are you using for a light?
Post by: RonK on October 22, 2019, 06:56:12 pm
For an elegant solution that won't fall apart or leak, sell the Sinewave Revolution and get a Beacon instead.


https://www.sinewavecycles.com/products/sinewave-cycles-beacon
Title: Re: Dynamo - What are you using for a light?
Post by: Colorado.Michael on October 23, 2019, 04:15:58 am
If I remember correctly, those are more like flood lights and don't do well with dazzle cutoff. They are great for off road, but from what I read, they can be blinding to oncoming traffic if I remember correctly. I hate when people blind me with their lights coming at me, so I try to be conscious of it.
Title: Re: Dynamo - What are you using for a light?
Post by: Pat Lamb on October 23, 2019, 09:07:13 am
I'm slightly curious, if you have the Beacon.  Sinewave says it's weatherproof, with seals galore.  But the picture on their web site shows a naked USB connector.  Being the simple sort of thinker that I am, it would seem like a drop of rainwater bridging the USB connectors would short the whole thing out.  Does the weatherproofing really work?  For comparison, both my B&M and Son lights have survived and worked through multiple downpours.
Title: Re: Dynamo - What are you using for a light?
Post by: Colorado.Michael on October 23, 2019, 04:47:27 pm
Not sure if weatherproofing really works in rain, I have been in dry climates. Sinewave and other articles claim its waterproof from getting inside and doing damage. I have been I dry climates. That's about to change as I am arriving on the west coast so I guess we will find out. I questioned its validity too, but from speaking to manufacturer directly, they told me not to worry about it.

If I was to sell off the sinewave, I would probably just get a Luxux U at that point so I get the light from B&M with a USB port in it.

I wish there was more distributors state side for this stuff and it wa ssd's more widely available. And yes, I am familiar with Peter White cycles but I would rather find what I need at cheaper prices as just about everything is a premium with Peter Whites stuff.

Cost is always a factor for me and I already have a S&P hub, so it doesn't have to be SON ultimately if I can get a good price on some lights. $300-400 for lights seems to be a bit obnoxious when my bike ed frame didn't cost much more than that.
Title: Dynamo - What are you using for a light?
Post by: RonK on October 23, 2019, 06:57:08 pm
My Sinewave Beacon was exposed to several days of torrential rain on the west coast of New Zealand, a region known for its very high rainfall. And that was with the auxiliary battery connected to the USB port.
Any light has to be aimed correctly. Even shaped beams can dazzle if they are too high. However it's pointless aiming dynamo lights too high, they are just not bright enough.
You may be different, but when touring I rarely ride at night. But I do run my lights during the day. The Beacon has a nice feature that prioritises charging over lighting  but still provides a very visible daytime running light.
And if my SP hub fails (a not so uncommon situation) I can power the Beacon from the auxiliary battery.
Title: Re: Dynamo - What are you using for a light?
Post by: Colorado.Michael on October 23, 2019, 07:59:41 pm
"And if my SP hub fails (a not so uncommon situation)..."

Oh no. Gosh I hope not :(
Title: Re: Dynamo - What are you using for a light?
Post by: canalligators on October 25, 2019, 07:54:48 pm
Planet Bike Blaze.  It’s ok, bright enough but it is not a cutoff light.  The stand light function will burn for three minutes, but not very brightly.  I wish it would go brighter for a shorter time.  Also its slide on base got loose in less than a year of regular use, so I put a band of inner tube around it to prevent rattling.

The price was reasonable, but next time I’ll get a B&M or other good cutoff light.
Title: Re: Dynamo - What are you using for a light?
Post by: gottobike on February 04, 2020, 11:56:38 am
Why a light? Not to be sacrilegious, but why not a USB port and power bank, like the Goal Zero Venture 30 or Guide 10 Plus? I find dynamo powered lights overly complex and expensive, and only useful at night from the bike. A power bank connected to a dynamo would capture energy whenever the wheels are turning and make it usable to charge just about any rechargeable headlamp, tail lamp, helmet light, camp light, navigation equipment, speaker, cell phone, tablet, etc.
Title: Re: Dynamo - What are you using for a light?
Post by: canalligators on February 05, 2020, 07:32:32 am
Why a light? ...

Because it's simpler, cheaper and does the job.  The charge-use system does more, but it's function that I don't use, commuting or on tour.  I don't take a lot of electronics along.
Title: Re: Dynamo - What are you using for a light?
Post by: Inge on February 06, 2020, 12:49:39 am
I use a Son on both my bikes - 'cause it is convenient not having to worry about keep lights charged. Besides that on 1 of my bikes it is connected to a forumslader so that it charges my devices as well.
Title: Re: Dynamo - What are you using for a light?
Post by: TCS on February 18, 2020, 03:40:07 pm
FWIW on my light touring bike I'm driving a B&M IQ-X with a Sturmey-Archer Dynohub.  Pleased.
Title: Re: Dynamo - What are you using for a light?
Post by: canalligators on February 20, 2020, 12:36:26 pm
FWIW on my light touring bike I'm driving a B&M IQ-X with a Sturmey-Archer Dynohub.  Pleased.

Entirely feasible with today's low draw LED lights.  May the GH6 hub roll forever!  I have two in service.
Title: Re: Dynamo - What are you using for a light?
Post by: froze on April 12, 2020, 05:58:39 pm
I don't tour at night and have no plans to tour at night, however in case something happened and found myself having to ride at night on a tour I carry standard rechargeable lights just in case.  Now if I need to charge them I carry two small storage batteries, which I would also use to charge my phone up with.  I then use a small solar panel that I strap to the top of my stuff on my rack and let it recharge one of my storage batteries as I ride. 

I carry two storage batteries, one is an emergency backup in case I didn't get enough sun to charge up the main one enough.  The storage batteries weigh a lot less than a dynamo and I have no wattage loss by using solar, not to mention it's a LOT cheaper.  The drawback to the storage battery and solar system is that the solar system takes a long time to charge up a fully depleted battery, like around 8 hours, but I never let my bats fully discharge.  One of my batteries can charge up my phone 8 times before it's dead according to the description I read when I bought it, but my phone is not one of those big ones, but supposedly it will charge mini iPad 4 times which I don't carry one of those.  That battery puts out 20,000maH, my other one I think is 10,000.

Of course if you tour at night you need a dynamo to be effective, but if not there's really no need for dynamo.  Plus a lot of places you go to will have places you can plug in and charge stuff.   

A word about rechargeable batteries since I brought up that method.  ALL rechargeable batteries should never be allowed to fully discharge.  Some tools come with a computer chip that turns the battery off when it gets down to between 15% to 10%, this is done to protect the battery, but small stuff like lights and phones don't do that, so you have to mindful not to discharge all the way.  The best way to keep a battery healthy for the longest is to charge it after every use regardless of how little you used it.

Anyway that's the way I've been doing it and so far I haven't had to plug anything into an outlet to get my stuff charged.  The storage battery will recharge my phone from dead to full

After months of research I ended up with a Anker 15 watt solar system, it was only $60 but the reviews said it was very durable, and so well made that it only one of a few that can charge in cloudy conditions.  It also charges faster than most others, most take about 12 to 16 hours to charge a phone from dead, this one takes 8 hours, but I charge my storage battery instead than charge my phone off of the storage battery.  The Anker is not waterproof but it can withstand minor mist type conditions; plus it weighs 14 ounces so it's lightweight as well.  They don't make that particular model anymore but they have something they call the 15 watt dual, which looks exactly like mine so not sure what they changed vs mine.

So the way I use it is I use small bungee cords to strap down my tent to the top of the rack, then I use a spider web bungee thingy to hold down the solar panel on top of the tent while riding if I need it to charge up a battery while I ride.

Anyway just an alternative way of keeping stuff charged if you don't want to spend the money for a dynamo or don't need a dynamo to run your lights through the night.
Title: Re: Dynamo - What are you using for a light?
Post by: rmball28 on April 12, 2020, 07:38:07 pm
I have dynamo's on 3 bikes that I use for commuting in the dark some mornings.  One is a lumotec fly which I like quite a bit antd the other two are cheap ebay led lights which also run off the dynamo.  The Lumotec is quite nice and it has a standlight (capacitor which keeps it on for a while when you stop).  The ebay lights are also very adequate (and much cheaper) but they don't have standlights.  I would buy the generic ebay lights again.
Title: Re: Dynamo - What are you using for a light?
Post by: MurderousMike on July 17, 2020, 09:01:50 am
I have two bikes with dynamos, one commuter and the other touring. Commuter has a Shimano Alfine, touring has a Son, both drive a Supernova E3 Triple with a Supernova tailight. The touring has a Sinewave USB charger I can plug in if needed.
Title: Re: Dynamo - What are you using for a light?
Post by: Inge on July 18, 2020, 03:04:12 am
I have 2 bikes with Son dynamos - 1 with axa lights and the other with B+M lights.
Title: Re: Dynamo - What are you using for a light?
Post by: Christoferfer on April 30, 2021, 04:29:47 am
I just needed it. Thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: Dynamo - What are you using for a light?
Post by: driftlessregion on May 01, 2021, 09:17:15 pm
Son Edelux II. No problems so far (12 months) and is great at night.
Title: Re: Dynamo - What are you using for a light?
Post by: vt91 on August 06, 2021, 12:43:37 am
At some point I decided that I get more bang for the buck with a 12 volt battery.
For my particular purposes I may need about 15000 mAh
Title: Re: Dynamo - What are you using for a light?
Post by: packsmen on May 31, 2022, 09:26:05 am
I don't use any switches to turn lights in my house or outside. For these purposes, I have smart detectors and a mobile application that allows me to turn off/on lights inside of my house. Last year I completely switched all my lights to the smart strip lights (https://www.vont.com/product/smart-strip-lights-led-strip-lights/) and smart bulbs and never regretted it. No wires, no switches, no problems related to the electricity system, and the possibility to change colors inside of my house how I want; I think using the modern lighting options is more effective than the classic lighting system.