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Title: XC Cycling and the Coronavirus .... is anyone riding XC ?
Post by: nhhillrider on March 27, 2020, 11:14:54 am
Adventure Cycling canceled tours through end of April.    So far no news for after that.   
I'm hearing that motels, campgrounds,  Air B&Bs are shutting down.    Obviously hosteling is a bad idea.   Seems many restaurants are doing curbside takeout.   Groceries are still available along the way.

I was looking forward to a self supported XC tour with one companion.   Originally planning to leave early May going East to West on the TA route.  Original plan was to do mostly motels and minimal camping.   Given the state of the country and no end in site for the pandemic, our plans are on hold ... wait and see.   I doubt the trip will happen this year.   Sad of course but staying safe and healthy and not spreading this terrible virus are the priorities of course.

What are other folks thinking?

-Larry
Title: Re: XC Cycling and the Coronavirus .... is anyone riding XC ?
Post by: hikerjer on March 27, 2020, 11:25:45 am
I'm thinking that's not very feasible given the situation.  I was planning on a cross country tour starting mid-July but that's on hold. I doubt we'll be out of this by then. I think we've all got to hunker down for the long  haul. Considering what many people are going through, canceling a tour is relatively minor. Disappointing sure, but nothing like being infected or out of a job.
Title: Re: XC Cycling and the Coronavirus .... is anyone riding XC ?
Post by: BikePacker on March 28, 2020, 08:25:01 am
Single day loops is where i am, for now.
Title: Re: XC Cycling and the Coronavirus .... is anyone riding XC ?
Post by: hikerjer on March 28, 2020, 06:33:07 pm
Same here.  It's still riding so I'm OK with it.
Title: Re: XC Cycling and the Coronavirus .... is anyone riding XC ?
Post by: jamawani on March 28, 2020, 07:49:42 pm
I am still seriously considering an X-USA ride from Washington state to Maryland.
Starting early July, ending late September.

I anticipate a coronavirus peak in late April, decline in May.
June may be the tail - unless there is a second bump.
Much depends on how things are managed in the next 30 days.

Also, it depends on whether or not I'm stilll around.
Title: Re: XC Cycling and the Coronavirus .... is anyone riding XC ?
Post by: staehpj1 on March 29, 2020, 06:34:39 am
I am still seriously considering an X-USA ride from Washington state to Maryland.
Starting early July, ending late September.

I anticipate a coronavirus peak in late April, decline in May.
June may be the tail - unless there is a second bump.
Much depends on how things are managed in the next 30 days.

Also, it depends on whether or not I'm stilll around.
I hope that works out for you.  I fear that is an optimistic prediction of the pandemic timatable, but maybe it will play out that way.

I had some touring and backpacking plans in the works and they are all on hold indefinitely.  Also some vacation plans with the wife, also on hold.  I hate that as I am getting to the age where I realize that my years of doing some things are getting shorter pretty quickly and I already can't/won't do some stuff I might have a few years ago.  Also I realize that some of us won't make it through this.  I am not in a super high risk category but at almost 69 I am at elevated enough risk to make me a little more aware of my mortality.
Title: Re: XC Cycling and the Coronavirus .... is anyone riding XC ?
Post by: jamawani on March 29, 2020, 08:58:52 am
I hate that as I am getting to the age where I realize that my years of doing some things are getting shorter pretty quickly and I already can't/won't do some stuff I might have a few years ago. 

You are a mere youth.
Or as Vinny Gambini said, "Yute".
Title: Re: XC Cycling and the Coronavirus .... is anyone riding XC ?
Post by: staehpj1 on March 29, 2020, 09:11:33 am
I hate that as I am getting to the age where I realize that my years of doing some things are getting shorter pretty quickly and I already can't/won't do some stuff I might have a few years ago. 

You are a mere youth.
Or as Vinny Gambini said, "Yute".

Well mom and dad rode well into their late 70s, still did long day rides late in life, mom lived to 97 and was pretty spry up to the last, so I guess I could have quite a few good years left ...and yet I feel pretty old these days.  It seems like my realistic expectations of what peaks I might bag, what rivers I might run, and so on gets smaller each year.  So losing a year or more of more ambitious trips really sucks.
Title: Re: XC Cycling and the Coronavirus .... is anyone riding XC ?
Post by: BikeliciousBabe on March 29, 2020, 10:23:52 am
I am a member of a large touring group on Facebook. There have been a couple of recent reports of several people abandoning the Southern Tier due to virus-related things like closures of campgrounds and food sources.

In many places it's tough to get medical attention even if you are on your own turf. Imagine getting sick out on the road right now. Another thing to be consider is the possibility of being seen by local as a "spreader." That was happening in Viet Nam not too long ago. Touring cyclists reported being denied service in restaurants and shops. Some were even verbally abused.

I had to cancel my Easter long weekend tour due to campground closures and a ferry not accepting walk-on passengers. I am scheduled for MTR and ID starting in mid-June. I am pretty much convinced that it's not going to happen, if only due to a lack of training. Hoping I can get my airfare back or at least get a voucher that I can use far down the road.

Maybe the fall will be better. If Amtrak starts up the Pennsylvanian services by then I could take that to Pittsburgh and ride home, starting on the GAP.
Title: Re: XC Cycling and the Coronavirus .... is anyone riding XC ?
Post by: hikerjer on March 29, 2020, 12:55:57 pm
"I hate that as I am getting to the age where I realize that my years of doing some things are getting shorter pretty quickly and I already can't/won't do some stuff I might have a few years ago."

I'm in pretty much the same situation as you only I've actually got a few years on you.  One of the most discouraging things to deal with is that I'm not  going to get more fit regardless of what I do. At our age if you can just maintain or even just significantly slow down the degeneration you're dong pretty darn well. What's most disappointing to me is that at our age, one cannot indefinitely keep saying "next year". There comes a point that you just won't be able to physically do it next year. I don't think I'm quite there yet and I'm cautiously optimistic that I have a few years left. But one never knows, especially in these times.  In the meantime, I'll keep riding locally as much as I can and hope for the best.  These are strange and troubling times for us all.
Title: Re: XC Cycling and the Coronavirus .... is anyone riding XC ?
Post by: BikePacker on March 29, 2020, 05:44:55 pm
One of the most discouraging things to deal with is that I'm not  going to get more fit regardless of what I do.
At our age if you can just maintain or even just significantly slow down the degeneration * you're dong pretty darn well.
Thanks.
You have helped me 'visualize' my needed to be visualized objective:
* "....just significantly slow down the degeneration..."
I have been wondering a little, to more than a little,
about this cause last year I noted a couple of times for the first time
that even tho I was in OK shape that peeps that were not at all in said shape,
but much younger, could easily out ride me.
Left me thinking .... "huh."
Memo to myself: You have found your new objective ~ thereby adapt/adjust accordingly.
Title: Re: XC Cycling and the Coronavirus .... is anyone riding XC ?
Post by: hikerjer on March 29, 2020, 06:31:26 pm
Like they say, "getting old is the pits, until you consider the alternative". I'll admit it is somewhat discouraging not being able to do the things I used to in the same manner I used to do them but one has to realize that's just the way it is in everyone's life. At 71 I do still do most of those things but just not as well or intensely. Instead of riding a century maybe I'll have to settle for a metric century. Instead of hiking 10-15 miles a day on a backpack trip, Ill have to settle for 7 miles. Still, I can do them.  I guess just being able to do them at all is something to be thankful for. All I can say for sure is that I'm not ready for a full time rocking chair - yet. But there are times it's a nice option for a brief time ;).

Just keep moving.
Title: Re: XC Cycling and the Coronavirus .... is anyone riding XC ?
Post by: staehpj1 on March 29, 2020, 06:53:21 pm
Yes.  I think we can usually continue touring and backpacking or at the very least riding and hiking quite late in life.

We may need to give up on some of the more ambitious goals like for example at one point I was considering trying to hit all 50 state high points.  Alaska went quite a while ago and now I am thinking that any that involve actual mountaineering are not happening.  Now it is looking like it isn't worth making much effort to bother keeping a list any more given that it will never be anywhere near complete.

Taking a year off just adds more stuff to the list of things that used to be on the list and now probably won't happen.
Title: Re: XC Cycling and the Coronavirus .... is anyone riding XC ?
Post by: hikerjer on March 29, 2020, 07:01:52 pm
"Taking a year off just adds more stuff to the list of things that used to be on the list and now probably won't happen."

Maybe maybe not. Some adjustment is needed, though. Inevitable fact of life.
Title: Re: XC Cycling and the Coronavirus .... is anyone riding XC ?
Post by: staehpj1 on March 29, 2020, 07:10:56 pm
"Taking a year off just adds more stuff to the list of things that used to be on the list and now probably won't happen."

Maybe maybe not. Some adjustment is needed, though. Inevitable fact of life.
Maybe I am being overly pessimistic, but the trend is in that direction and I hate losing a year.  I figure it can't be helped though.  I really ought to just be thankful that I am in relatively good health and decent shape for my age.
Title: Re: XC Cycling and the Coronavirus .... is anyone riding XC ?
Post by: hikerjer on March 29, 2020, 08:34:22 pm
"I really ought to just be thankful that I am in relatively good health and decent shape for my age."

IMO, that's the only way to look at it.  The other thing about being this old and retired is I don't have to gt up and go to work each morning. Although, I guess there's a lot of people,unfortunately, in that situation right now for a different reason.
Title: Re: XC Cycling and the Coronavirus .... is anyone riding XC ?
Post by: jamawani on March 29, 2020, 09:02:31 pm
Hey, there's a separate category entitled "Reminiscing Youth".

But the question on the table is - "When can you likely begin an X-USA trip?"
I said maybe July1. August 1 would be more likely. Sept 1 almost certain, but late.
A late summer into early fall trip is really a great time - -
Especially if you start in the Pacific Northwest where it is cooler.
In much of the nation, September is the sweetest month to tour.
Title: Re: XC Cycling and the Coronavirus .... is anyone riding XC ?
Post by: BikePacker on March 29, 2020, 10:19:58 pm
As singer Toby Keith has crooned,
"I may not be as good as I once was, but I am as good once as I ever was.".....
or at least I'd like to think so. 
In reality, probably not even so : ) Hardy, Har, Har.
Meanwhile ... apologies for being somewhat off the original post thesis ... just could not help myself (mebbe due to degeneration!).
Title: Re: XC Cycling and the Coronavirus .... is anyone riding XC ?
Post by: staehpj1 on March 30, 2020, 05:25:18 am
But the question on the table is - "When can you likely begin an X-USA trip?"
I said maybe July1. August 1 would be more likely. Sept 1 almost certain, but late.
A late summer into early fall trip is really a great time - -
Especially if you start in the Pacific Northwest where it is cooler.
In much of the nation, September is the sweetest month to tour.
I think that is all pretty uncertain.  Enough so that I am not making any plans until we know more about when conditions will be more favorable.  We really don't know when things will wind down or whether there will be a second wave.  I figure I will dust off some of my old plans or make new ones when we know more.  I really don't need to plan far ahead and often like to head out on short notice any way.
Title: Re: XC Cycling and the Coronavirus .... is anyone riding XC ?
Post by: hikerjer on March 30, 2020, 11:42:35 am
BikePacker and jamawani comments are probably the most realistic.  Really, no one knows about this situation for sure. Let's all hope and pray for the best and stay safe in the meantime.
Title: Re: XC Cycling and the Coronavirus .... is anyone riding XC ?
Post by: aggie on March 30, 2020, 02:49:58 pm
Before all this started I made reservations for a trip starting in mid-June.  I haven't cancelled yet.  I'm waiting to see how things play out as it gets closer to the planned start.  If things are looking up I will go.  If not, I will cancel and try to reschedule for a late August -early September.
Title: Re: XC Cycling and the Coronavirus .... is anyone riding XC ?
Post by: staehpj1 on March 30, 2020, 05:01:44 pm
Before all this started I made reservations for a trip starting in mid-June.  I haven't cancelled yet.  I'm waiting to see how things play out as it gets closer to the planned start.  If things are looking up I will go.  If not, I will cancel and try to reschedule for a late August -early September.
I have a hard time relating to a trip like that.  I never plan ahead before the trip about where I will stay at least in the US locales where I have toured.  Heck I seldom plan ahead where I will stay during the trip.  I typically don't know where I will stop for the day until I am actually there.  My way obviously doesn't suit everyone, but you can go or change plans on short notice that way.  I find the lack of a rigid schedule to be liberating.
Title: Re: XC Cycling and the Coronavirus .... is anyone riding XC ?
Post by: hikerjer on March 31, 2020, 06:43:37 pm
 "I typically don't know where I will stop for the day until I am actually there.  I find the lack of a rigid schedule to be liberating."

Typically, I'm pretty much like that. However,there are situations that change change it. For instance, when riding down the Pacific Coast, I loved taking advantage of the hiker/biker site campgrounds in state parks in WA, OR and CA. Cheap, clean and nicely spaced apart.  Typically, I would  plan ahead to stay at one of them.  If I didn't, ,I might pass one up and then it would be a while, sometimes a long while before I came across another nice site.   Similar situation in national parks where you're required to stay in designated campgrounds. Now when relying on stealth camping, it's a different story.  Then I just played it by ear.
Title: Re: XC Cycling and the Coronavirus .... is anyone riding XC ?
Post by: aggie on March 31, 2020, 08:19:25 pm
My reservations are for transportation to my start point.  At which point I go day by day on where I will stay.
Title: Re: XC Cycling and the Coronavirus .... is anyone riding XC ?
Post by: Nyimbo on March 31, 2020, 09:20:50 pm
I am planning Pacific Coast Trip end of August and September. So maybe the timing will work. But even though I am very carefully trying to avoid the virus, I’m sure I’ll be more comfortable touring if I have had and recovered from the virus and thus have immunity during my tour. I wouldn’t like to be out in the the unknown and in my tent while sick.


I realize we never want to be sick or injured on a tour, but thinking this is a bit different.
Title: Re: XC Cycling and the Coronavirus .... is anyone riding XC ?
Post by: staehpj1 on April 01, 2020, 06:01:22 am
My reservations are for transportation to my start point.  At which point I go day by day on where I will stay.
I misunderstood.

I too often have a reservation for a flight to the start point, but I try very hard to avoid having a fixed date for the end point if at all possible.  That has meant a variety of things ranging from riding toward home so that the last leg of the trip was a short one, using various ground transportation to get home, and flying stand by to get home.

My trips are almost always point to point affairs so it would never be the typical round trip ticket any way, but I resist being tied to a fixed schedule and avoid it as much as possible.  On a shortish tour I could see sticking with a schedule, but I don't think I have ever really foreseen my pace very accurately on multi-week trips.  Some have tended to be much faster and some much slower than expected and I like to let the pace be what it wants to be.
Title: Re: XC Cycling and the Coronavirus .... is anyone riding XC ?
Post by: TCS on April 04, 2020, 10:45:56 am
The majority of the USA is currently under 'stay at home', 'shelter in place' or 'self-isolate' orders.  Clearly, XC cycletouring doesn't comply with that, although how local authorities might choose to interact with a cycletourist would surely be on a case by case, situation by situation basis.

Currently, various state shelter orders last from the end of April in some states to mid-June in others.  These time periods and the severity of travel restrictions will no doubt be adjusted as the situation evolves.

Several solons here have advised to not make XC plans before mid- to late summer.  Noting among other schedule changes that the Olympics have been postponed one year makes me think XC this summer is optimistic.

Yeah, the uncertainty sucks if you want to make plans.

But hey, if you're here, you're an Adventurer.
Title: Re: XC Cycling and the Coronavirus .... is anyone riding XC ?
Post by: Pat Lamb on April 04, 2020, 04:41:31 pm
At least in my state, the stay at home order has an exemption for outdoor activities of groups of less than 10 people who maintain 6 foot isolation distance. 

That pretty much covers most of my touring, except for local restaurants, swimming pools, and convenience stores.

Of course if this pandemic continues to spread, we're likely to see a bifurcation between "clamp down harder" and "let the virus infect everyone, for the Lord will know His own."
Title: Re: XC Cycling and the Coronavirus .... is anyone riding XC ?
Post by: BikePacker on April 05, 2020, 08:16:31 am
But hey, if you're here, you're an Adventurer.
Amen.
Title: Re: XC Cycling and the Coronavirus .... is anyone riding XC ?
Post by: TCS on April 07, 2020, 06:08:15 pm
Aaaaaand they've officially closed the State and National Parks, Corps of Engineers campgrounds, National Forests and Grasslands and camping on the beach in my neck of the woods, with no scheduled reopening date.   :(

To date, 16 USA states have full or partial restrictions/quarantines upon entrance.
Title: Re: XC Cycling and the Coronavirus .... is anyone riding XC ?
Post by: canalligators on April 11, 2020, 10:10:31 pm
I'm going to work up a plan that is about a week long, from and to my door, a big loop.  Then if the restrictions are eased, campgrounds are open and the healthcare system has the capacity to deal with me if I'm injured, I might fit it in.  I won't make any transportation or lodging reservations.

Otherwise, I'll continue day rides most days that it's not lousy out.
Title: Re: XC Cycling and the Coronavirus .... is anyone riding XC ?
Post by: BikePacker on April 12, 2020, 08:55:52 am
the healthcare system has the capacity to deal with me if I'm injured, I might fit it in. 
You make a worthy point of the possibility of injury and then being able to access healthcare.
Until your post I had been so focused on just the avoidance of the bug
I was temporarily forgetting the reality of injury risk/related matters that is always out there for cyclists.
Thx.
Title: Re: XC Cycling and the Coronavirus .... is anyone riding XC ?
Post by: brhoward on April 16, 2020, 05:12:09 pm
My XC starts 3/1/21, next year. Going East to west. Warmshowers back yards, city parks, Hoping all is better by then.
Title: Re: XC Cycling and the Coronavirus .... is anyone riding XC ?
Post by: fastrog on April 17, 2020, 12:15:33 am
i had a plan for the third leg of my transam trek to commence in missoula about june 20. thinking about july 20 now, in light of closures. i am optimistically hoping the virus itself will abate by then. since my wife drives support van and we therefore have food and water, a camp stove, etc., all we need is a place to park the van.  too optimistic?
 
Title: Re: XC Cycling and the Coronavirus .... is anyone riding XC ?
Post by: staehpj1 on April 17, 2020, 05:56:37 am
i had a plan for the third leg of my transam trek to commence in missoula about june 20. thinking about july 20 now, in light of closures. i am optimistically hoping the virus itself will abate by then. since my wife drives support van and we therefore have food and water, a camp stove, etc., all we need is a place to park the van.  too optimistic?
 
It is hard to say.  How flexible are your plans?  Personally I am less optimistic and have tentatively put off all my plans for at least the entire year 2020.  I figure if things go better than I expect I can make some fall plans at the last minute.  On the other hand I may be waiting for a vaccine and/or less widespread contagion into at least early 2021.
Title: Re: XC Cycling and the Coronavirus .... is anyone riding XC ?
Post by: fastrog on April 17, 2020, 09:04:28 pm
i'm very flexible, except my wife/support driver has to return to brazil sometime in the fall for some professorial duties. of course trying to get over the last of the rockies from missoula, the ranges in idaho and eastern oregon, the cascades and the coast range too late in the fall is obviously problematic. i will be 71 in a month, and with congestive heart disease and diabetes (controlled) i do not feel i have an unlimited  number of years to get the transam off my bucket list. and as jimmy buffet sings "i'd rather die while i'm living than live while i'm dead."
Title: Re: XC Cycling and the Coronavirus .... is anyone riding XC ?
Post by: hikerjer on April 18, 2020, 12:51:10 pm
I'm the same age and know exactly how you feel. What's the saying, "youth is wasted on the young."
Title: Re: XC Cycling and the Coronavirus .... is anyone riding XC ?
Post by: fastrog on April 18, 2020, 08:19:38 pm
for sure
Title: Re: XC Cycling and the Coronavirus .... is anyone riding XC ?
Post by: RustyCrank on April 20, 2020, 09:35:21 pm
I'm gonna go for it. I had originally planned to do the Great Divide this summer, but that's not happening. My current plan is a June start out of Brooklyn on the NYC>Chicago route to Denver IN, then the Northern Tier route to Dickinson ND, and then Lewis & Clark route to Portland, OR.
Title: Re: XC Cycling and the Coronavirus .... is anyone riding XC ?
Post by: hikerjer on April 24, 2020, 08:57:49 pm
"I'm gonna go for it" -  Well, I guess it's your choice but I'd wait and see how things pan out before making any definite decisions. Just too many variables right now. My state has a 14 day quarantine requirement for anyone entering the state and we're still in a lock down for the most part. It looks as if things are going to ease up a bit real shortly but I'm fearful that it's far too early for that. I can easily see the second wave of the pandemic engulfing the nation shortly after you start your trip. I hope not, but that seems the reality to me. I wouldn't want to be on the road then. I wish you well but do be careful.
Title: Re: XC Cycling and the Coronavirus .... is anyone riding XC ?
Post by: fastrog on April 25, 2020, 12:14:10 am
i have an idea that i'm a lot older than rusty. i've moved my start for the last leg of my transam from missoula to florence to july 1, from june 20. could take it a week later if conditions apply. wish everyone luck, including myself.
Title: Re: XC Cycling and the Coronavirus .... is anyone riding XC ?
Post by: hikerjer on April 25, 2020, 01:45:22 am
I'm still waiting to set a time table for my x-county tour.  Originally I was hoping to leave Oregon in mid-July. I suppose that's still a possibility but for now it's waiting game.  Let's face it, we just don't know what to expect or really plan for.
Title: Re: XC Cycling and the Coronavirus .... is anyone riding XC ?
Post by: timcote1960 on May 18, 2020, 08:12:46 pm
We are starting May 29 in Yorktown, headed to KY over two weeks.  Whether we do the whole TA this year or not is hugely unknown, but we will do 2 weeks.  "We" are three guys and a woman driving the RV, the couple will stay in the RV and the two other guys in their own tents.  We think we will be pretty socially distanced and safe.
Title: Re: XC Cycling and the Coronavirus .... is anyone riding XC ?
Post by: hikerjer on May 19, 2020, 12:29:05 am
I wish you luck and safe travels.
Title: Re: XC Cycling and the Coronavirus .... is anyone riding XC ?
Post by: goofylbj on May 24, 2020, 01:01:03 pm
How's it going? Any updates? I'm hoping to do a partial transam or Eastern express XC (solo self supported) in July or so... but am nervous about finding places to stay (mix of camping/hotels). Any thoughts? Want to do this as safely and respectfully of local communities as possible..
Title: Re: XC Cycling and the Coronavirus .... is anyone riding XC ?
Post by: RustyCrank on May 24, 2020, 02:03:25 pm
I plan to leave June 1. DM me for more info.
Title: Re: XC Cycling and the Coronavirus .... is anyone riding XC ?
Post by: timcote1960 on May 25, 2020, 06:03:32 pm
We are still on for departing Yorktown Westboundfor 2wks May 29-june12. It seems we are the first on the forum to do so. Going by RV is making it easier, as is the limited commitment to 2wks. Then we come home until at least July 1, then may pick it up again (at the KY endpoint ) for another 2-3wks. I know this sounds like a very odd way to do the TA but my wife is a non-cyclist, going without her isn’t anything Either of us would want (How odd: husband and wife who don’t like being apart, I know!) and we both get homesick. So little 2-3wk sections work for us. Whether we finish in 2020 or not is unknown, but damn it, we will start!

Tim
Title: Re: XC Cycling and the Coronavirus .... is anyone riding XC ?
Post by: brhoward on May 26, 2020, 02:30:27 pm
Please keep me posted as to the 'receptions' you receive on the road. I'm thinking there are crazies out there who will accuse you of spreading the virus?
Title: Re: XC Cycling and the Coronavirus .... is anyone riding XC ?
Post by: staehpj1 on May 26, 2020, 05:00:55 pm
Please keep me posted as to the 'receptions' you receive on the road. I'm thinking there are crazies out there who will accuse you of spreading the virus?
A large part of touring for me has always been the warmth, openness, and hospitality of many of the folks along the way.  I hope that will still greet folks at least to some extent.  I don't doubt there will be some negative experiences, but hopefully not many.  I too am anxious to hear how things are on the road today.

In the past I always found that if you met folks with openness and genuine friendliness they will respond in a similar fashion.  I hope that will still be the case and suspect it mostly will be especially in the heartland.  The level of suspicion and mistrust will undoubtedly be higher than in the past though.
Title: Re: XC Cycling and the Coronavirus .... is anyone riding XC ?
Post by: smm7144 on June 02, 2020, 01:03:07 am
Freshly laid off from work, looking to possibly start doing an east starting in NYC to west route. First time doing something like this, aside from using warm showers, any route recommendations and has anyone had any issues with COVID aside from some stuff being closed?
Title: Re: XC Cycling and the Coronavirus .... is anyone riding XC ?
Post by: staehpj1 on June 02, 2020, 08:49:48 am
Freshly laid off from work, looking to possibly start doing an east starting in NYC to west route. First time doing something like this, aside from using warm showers, any route recommendations and has anyone had any issues with COVID aside from some stuff being closed?
I have no experience with touring in these Covid times so my comments aren't going to provide much specific to that, at least nothing based on actual experience with the current situation.

I will say that for me warmshowers stops proved to be of limited use in non Covid times and I'd imagine it would be worse now.  I found that warmshowers hosts were not as conveniently located as I'd have liked and often had expectations that didn't work for me.   Many (most?) wanted some notice and for me that didn't really work well.  That was the biggest issue.  I find that I really don't want to plan stops ahead of time I don't usually know where I will want to stop for the day until I am there.  I fully understand folks wanting some notice that someone is coming, but I not only don't know when I will be getting to a given town, but typically don't know if I will want to stop there for the night.  I didn't find it fair to contact folks about possibly coming, not committing to a firm date, and maybe never showing when I decided not to stop in their town.  Better to just not use them at all.

I do find them useful at times when I know exactly when and what I need.  For example at the start of a tour if I need some kind of logistical support like an address to have a box to shipped to or be held at or maybe a place to stay after flying in late enough not to start a ride that day.

In these Covid times with social distancing I'd imagine that fewer doors would be open to you.  So I'd really recommend not relying too heavily on warmshowers hosts, at least not as a primary strategy.

I found that once away from either coast, camping was easy enough to manage, usually for free and with no need for stealth.  Not sure if the current social/political climate in the country has impacted that much or not.  On my first tour (using the ACA Trans America maps) we relied pretty heavily on the stops listed on the ACA maps.  I thought that was because the trail had been well blazed, but subsequently found that I found that especially in the middle of the country I could use what I learned from that to find places to stay in most small rural towns anywhere that I went.

Keep us posted on how things go since we are all wondering how the new normal will be for touring.
Title: Re: XC Cycling and the Coronavirus .... is anyone riding XC ?
Post by: brhoward on June 03, 2020, 12:42:35 pm
Yep, I agree with the scheduling stops. What if you want to keep going for another 20-30 miles after you've notified a warmshowers host? Probably ok if you are just needing a camping spot and no amenities, but....

I have emailed a few for 'local information' and get minimal responses.

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Title: Re: XC Cycling and the Coronavirus .... is anyone riding XC ?
Post by: RustyCrank on June 03, 2020, 01:24:34 pm
Guys- it’s fine out here. Stealth camping. Take out food. Bottled water. So many flowers in bloom.
Title: Re: XC Cycling and the Coronavirus .... is anyone riding XC ?
Post by: staehpj1 on June 03, 2020, 05:33:38 pm
Guys- it’s fine out here. Stealth camping. Take out food. Bottled water. So many flowers in bloom.
I MUCH prefer camping for free in plain sight using stealth only as a last resort.  That has generally been doable on most of my tours for a significant portion of the time.  Are you anywhere that camping in rural town park picnic areas or other free and in sight places is the norm?  If so have you done any of that since the pandemic days have started?
Title: Re: XC Cycling and the Coronavirus .... is anyone riding XC ?
Post by: nhhillrider on June 06, 2020, 10:09:40 am
Well I started this thread ... too bad I have not been getting notifications about the replies.  Anyway ....

Our initial thinking was postponing to as late as July.  Would give us enough time to still make the trip in nice weather.
We wanted the country to start opening up enough so that we could get lodging and food ... which actually was always the case I think.
But also feel like we would be welcomed out there.   With the entire country coming out of lock down in May/June the time had come.   
I called a bunch of lodging places in VA/KY and all said that they were open and there were plenty of eating options.     So ....
Our trip is back on!!!!!   Starting Tuesday (June 9) from Yorktown.   

We will be practicing all the CDC guidelines for social distancing.  Will be bringing masks,  hand sanitizer,  wipes.   Will do our best.
Hope to see others out on the road!
Title: Re: XC Cycling and the Coronavirus .... is anyone riding XC ?
Post by: staehpj1 on June 06, 2020, 10:39:08 am
Starting Tuesday (June 9) from Yorktown.
Have a great trip.

If your plans are not too set consider the following...

Personally I'd consider a start in the West given that start date.  McKenzie Pass would likely be open to bikes and still be closed to cars given your proposed start time if you started in the West.  You'd have to check to be sure, but I think they said it was opening the third week of June to cars and it usually opens for bikes a couple weeks earlier.  Most folks do an early start in the east or a later start in the west for better weather along the way.

Another thing to consider is that it is nice to have air travel out of the way at the beginning since you know the date you will start and don't know when you will finish.  So I always prefer to start on the opposite coast to the one I live on.
Title: Re: XC Cycling and the Coronavirus .... is anyone riding XC ?
Post by: nhhillrider on June 06, 2020, 12:10:37 pm
Starting Tuesday (June 9) from Yorktown.
Have a great trip.

If your plans are not too set consider the following...

Personally I'd consider a start in the West given that start date.  McKenzie Pass would likely be open to bikes and still be closed to cars given your proposed start time if you started in the West.  You'd have to check to be sure, but I think they said it was opening the third week of June to cars and it usually opens for bikes a couple weeks earlier.  Most folks do an early start in the east or a later start in the west for better weather along the way.

Another thing to consider is that it is nice to have air travel out of the way at the beginning since you know the date you will start and don't know when you will finish.  So I always prefer to start on the opposite coast to the one I live on.


There are definitely pro's and cons to each direction.   With the original start date west to east was not an option.   It is now as you stated and we could.  And we discussed it and decided to stick with an  East to West trip.   Definitely agree the logistics are easier flying out west ... get it all out of way.   But I do like the idea of saving the best for the last.  For me thats riding out west.  Plus we are considering riding down the coast to the Bay area after we reach Oregon.  So we are sticking with plan A.   But thanks for the suggestions.