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Title: ID Hot Springs Main Map - Road closure due to construction. May 18 - early Sept.
Post by: CMajernik on May 08, 2020, 01:08:25 pm
Realignments around the washouts on FR 227 east of Bowns Campground/Smoky Bar will commence on-the-ground work starting May 18. The plan is to close the washout area to all travel, including bicycle and pedestrian traffic while the work is being implemented from May 18 until approximately the end of July. There will be signs or reader boards at Featherville to warn those bicyclists coming from the west that the route will not be passable (if they go through and reach the worksite they will be turned around).

 In addition there will be a period of time in July when traffic will be stopped during the day west of Worswick Hotsprings on the FR 227, through the narrows, while the company collects large rock for the washout work. This could affect the routes folks take after coming over Dollarhide Summit from the east.
Title: Re: ID Hot Springs Main Map - Road closure due to construction. May 18 - end of July
Post by: sprocketgizmo on May 14, 2020, 12:44:05 pm
Ntaylor,I just received the update to the Idaho Hot Springs Mountain Bike route.  This route is in my back yard.  My wife and I rode it last August/ September.  I am sure you are aware that there are a few other options then the new one shown.  For example you could turn North in Fairfield and go over either Couch summit or Wells summit.  Both would drop you back into the west side of Dollarhide summit, and back onto the original route.  I would guess that you all chose the route you are showing for good reasons.  I just wanted to put that out there that there are some alternatives.  And the new route would be a little boring.  Sage brush hills, hot in the summer, not much water.  Over Couch or Wells would be more climbing but also more forest, more water.  Could be a fun little project to scope out other alternatives.  Let me know if I can help.  Probably a low priority because of the limited travel due to Covid-19.  I hope every one is healthy and riding their bikes.
Bill Amaya
Title: Re: ID Hot Springs Main Map - Road closure due to construction. May 18 - end of July
Post by: andrewh on May 14, 2020, 04:18:33 pm
A thought: traveling in a CCW loop of the route, one could turn north at the South Fork Boise River, shortly before the washouts.  There is a dirt road for a short distance which turns to a pack trail for approximately one mile, which then links up with NF-12.  From there, cyclists can travel WSW over Fleck Summit to Smoky Bar and on.  As long as you're willing to walk the mile pack trail as required, it only add about 1.5 miles to the total trip.  Thoughts?
Title: Re: ID Hot Springs Main Map - Road closure due to construction. May 18 - end of July
Post by: ntaylor on May 14, 2020, 06:35:20 pm
Thanks andrewh. Do you (or sprocketgizmo) know: Is the clearing work located west of the junction of FR 12 and 227? Meaning, does following FR 12 down from Fleck Summit (as you recommend) put cyclists out of the way of this work site so as to continue east on 227?

If so, I'd say that your detour sounds reasonable.

Nathan
ACA
Title: Re: ID Hot Springs Main Map - Road closure due to construction. May 18 - end of July
Post by: sprocketgizmo on May 14, 2020, 07:13:32 pm
So I just looked close at google earth to help prompt my memory.  The is more then one section that has washed out.  The wash outs are west of  where the South Fork of the Boise river comes in from the north.  So the proposed route by AndrewH is all located east of the wash out and where the road is closed.  It would not work IMHO. 

Sprocket
Title: Re: ID Hot Springs Main Map - Road closure due to construction. May 18 - end of July
Post by: andrewh on May 15, 2020, 10:59:59 am
I'm basing this off the proposal from the forest service, you can find it on the FS website here: https://www.fs.usda.gov/project/?project=49740

From that document, it looks like the damage is between the Big Smoky guard station and the South Fork Boise River, which means taking the pack trail should be no issue.
Title: Re: ID Hot Springs Main Map - Road closure due to construction. May 18 - end of July
Post by: ntaylor on May 15, 2020, 02:10:47 pm
Here is a mash-up of andrewh's route (at least, how I interpreted it. Please let me know if accurate!) and the washout locations according to the USFS. I will confirm with them if this detour is acceptable, but it does look viable. The 1 mi. hike-a-bike (is any of the pack trail rideable?) seems MUCH more preferable to a combined ~4000 ft climb to the south and then riding hot sagebrush foothills all the way east to Hailey. This pack trail has a couple steep grades but overall is only about a 250 ft gain to the nondescript track leading NE to Fleck Summit.

This detour won't address the July traffic stoppages to the east near Worswick Hot Springs.

I welcome any other comments!

Nathan

Title: Re: ID Hot Springs Main Map - Road closure due to construction. May 18 - end of July
Post by: andrewh on May 15, 2020, 03:03:03 pm
Correct, that is the detour I propose.

Regarding the pack trail, there should be a disclaimer that the trail "doesn't appear on any maps made after 2013 and could be overgrown or hidden.  Prepare for mild to appreciable bushwhacking and route finding."

Detailed directions for the pack trail: head north, don't climb over 100 feet and don't cross any rivers :D
Title: Re: ID Hot Springs Main Map - Road closure due to construction. May 18 - end of July
Post by: sprocketgizmo on May 15, 2020, 04:20:09 pm
After reviewing your documents I have to say you may indeed be correct.  Looks like a bike ride this week end could confirm all of this.  Let me see what I can do.

Sprocket
Title: Re: ID Hot Springs Main Map - Road closure due to construction. May 18 - end of July
Post by: sprocketgizmo on May 16, 2020, 11:06:46 pm
Today, 5-16-2020, my wife and I went out to the proposed re-route to check it out.  We drove to the top of Fleck summit, unloaded the bikes and went exploring.  We checked out a multiple of roads, ATV trails and single track in an attempt to find a route on the west side of this re-route.  We found the "pack trail".  It is not much of a trail. but it appears to be the only route that  actually goes.  We attempted to ride it with out much success.  So we walked for about 40 minutes down the trail.  We did not see any place that we thought was ridable, either up or down.  The trail is just not much of a trail.  No foot prints other then some elk tracks, no bike tracks.  It is narrow, with places that have some serious exposure.  The trail is so narrow that you cannot push your bike and walk beside it.  You would have to pick up your bike and carry it.  2.5 to 3 miles of bike carrying.  If you are traveling counter clock wise all of that would be uphill.  I recorded about 600 ft of elevation gain, which doesn't include the part we walked.   To traverse this you would have to unload your bike, carry your gear the 2.5- 3 miles on a sketchy trail, turn around go back that 2.5-3 miles and carry your bike back up.
I just think that you would be doing most people a disservice to suggest this re-route.  Unfortunately there is just no easy way around this construction project.  But IMHO Andrewh's re-route is not the answer. 
     About us....  I have been riding these mountains since the middle of the 1980's.  (before there was bike suspension).  My wife is an experienced biker and hiker with numerous expeditions under her belt including a 32 day backpacking trip with NOLS.  We are not city folk! 
     I think you would be doing most people a disservice by recommending this re-route.

All the best,
Sprocket
 
Title: Re: ID Hot Springs Main Map - Road closure due to construction. May 18 - end of July
Post by: andrewh on May 19, 2020, 02:51:30 pm
Sounds pretty gnarly, definitely not a detour for the feint of heart.  I agree, I wouldn't recommend this as an official detour. Thanks for scouting this out, Sproket!
Title: Re: ID Hot Springs Main Map - Road closure due to construction. May 18 - end of July
Post by: planeguy5 on June 05, 2020, 01:17:57 pm
My partner and I will be starting the IHSMBR in a counter-clockwise direction on June 14. Our plan for getting around construction is to follow the "official" ACA reroute (https://ridewithgps.com/routes/32604552?utm_source=BE&utm_campaign=20200514_Routes) from Featherville to the town of Soldier. Once at Soldier, we plan to deviate from the official reroute and take a left onto Soldier Creek Road. We'll follow this road for approximately 8 miles until the juncture with NF-94. At this point, you can take a right onto NF 94 and follow it for 9 miles until it rejoins the official route (NF-227) at Little Smokey Campground. This will effectively cut the official reroute in half and gets you back onto the official route only a few miles south of the construction closure.

If anyone has feedback regarding our proposed routing, let us know! Looking forward to exploring all that Idaho has to offer.
Title: Re: ID Hot Springs Main Map - Road closure due to construction. May 18 - end of July
Post by: sprocketgizmo on June 05, 2020, 05:44:28 pm
planeguy5,
Your planned re-route is a solid plan to get back on the original route.  The official re-route would be a little boring because it puts you out into the desert for quite a ways.  The way you are proposing will take you over couch summit, which is a pretty good climb followed by a big descent back to the original route.  An alternative would be to go over Wells summit, which is east of Couch summit.  The Wells summit option will connect you back to the original route east of Warswick hot springs.  I can't lay my hands of the elevation of Couch summit at the moment, but I think Wells summit is quite a bit lower.  So that would mean not as much climbing.  The wells summit option is a little shorter as well.  When you turn north at the little town of Soldier it will be paved.  While still on the pavement watch for a fork in the road and a sign that  says Wells Summit (to your right).  That will be your turn. When we were out there a couple of weeks ago there was a nice log house for sale  right at that  turn.
   By the way, word on the ground is that they will be finished with construction before the Fourth of July.  Your timing this year is really good.  We did not have a lot of snow so the rivers should not be to high.  Right now every thing is super green and lush with no fires.  We had an early spike in Covid-19 cases, but it seems to have currently abated somewhat.  You are going to love it.  BTW 16 mile hot spring on the south fork of the Salmon, north of Warm Lake is the best!

Good luck
Sprocket
Title: Re: ID Hot Springs Main Map - Road closure due to construction. May 18 - end of July
Post by: sprocketgizmo on June 05, 2020, 05:48:18 pm
This map may help? 

Sprocket
Title: Re: ID Hot Springs Main Map - Road closure due to construction. May 18 - end of July
Post by: planeguy5 on June 05, 2020, 07:15:04 pm
This map may help? 

Sprocket,

Thank you so much for your input! Less climbing is a good thing, particularly on a route as mountainous as this one. We'll likely take your suggestion over the one I proposed, unless of course the main route re-opens by the time we are passing through. Of course, we'll check in with the rangers in Featherville and decide then what the best course of action will be.

As for timing, it was certainly lucky. I'm wrapping up graduate school in Boise on June 13, and figured that would be prime time to head out on the route. Turns out it will be. My partner and I have been closely following COVID-19 travel advisories, particularly since we'll be passing through Blaine County. Per Sun Valley's website, visitors are welcome so long as they travel in small groups, respect social distancing, and are largely self-contained. I'd say bike touring checks all of those boxes, and we'll be packing masks and hand sanitizer so that we respect these rules when venturing into grocery stores to resupply.

Let me know if you have any other pointers or suggestions. We're very excited to hit the trail!

Jeremy
Title: Re: ID Hot Springs Main Map - Road closure due to construction. May 18 - end of July
Post by: sprocketgizmo on June 07, 2020, 08:56:18 pm
Planeguy5,
Congrats on finishing grad school!  One other tip for you.  When you get to Galena summit take the old toll road.  We took it last year and thought it was way better then riding on the pavement over Galena.  Nice single track like route through the trees to the head waters of the big wood river.  We had read that it was bad and rocky, but we didn't think so.
Sprocket
Title: Re: ID Hot Springs Main Map - Road closure due to construction. May 18 - end of July
Post by: rebjac on June 21, 2020, 02:46:00 am
Hi all,

Three friends and I plan to set out on July 2, and we were wondering if anyone has updated information on road closures and/or tips on reroute options. Jeremy, how did your trip go? Where did you need (or opt) to deviate from the official route? We’ll also be riding CCW.

Very grateful for any input!

Thanks in advance,

Rebecca
Title: Re: ID Hot Springs Main Map - Road closure due to construction. May 18 - end of July
Post by: planeguy5 on June 24, 2020, 12:29:29 am
Hi Rebecca,

We were able to get through the washout! You'll have to go later in the day (after 7pm) to avoid the work crew. We went at 6pm and were caught, but the individual told us how to bushwhack around the work zone. You'll likely have to do the same. There will be a series of muddy trails to the right of the new road construction. They go on longer than you'd think, but will take you right to there outskirts of Smokey Bar! Let me know if you have any other questions and I'll do my best to answer them.

Also, don't let Steel Pass intimidate you too much. It'll be the first pass you encounter, and it's a big one! All others have been more reasonable.

Jeremy
Title: Re: ID Hot Springs Main Map - Road closure due to construction. May 18 - end of July
Post by: sprocketgizmo on June 24, 2020, 09:57:03 am
I have not been over that way in a few weeks, so I do not have an update about the closure or when the construction might be finished.  I will reach out to some of my contacts in the area to see if there is a change in status.  Your message indicates a little confusion.  As far as I know there is only one closure on that leg of the route.   That closure is west of Warswick HS.  So the two closures you mention, I think are one and the same.  Sunday I rode part of the official re-route, up Camp Creek, over Richardson Summit and into Hailey.  And the owner of our local bike shop rode a big part of the original route over Dollarhide Summit, combined with riding over Wells summit, which is part of the alternate route that I suggested in a previous post.  Both of those routes were in good shape.  It has not gotten to hot yet this year.  There was still water in the Camp Creek drainage.  On the Camp Creek, Richardson Summit, Hailey route the cows and sheep have been turned out to pasture on public land.  That means on that more southern route you will have to deal with cow and sheep poo, in the water and on the road.  :-(
Let me see if I can find out any more on the closure in the next few days.  If I hear anything I will let you know.  BTW it's a fun route, I hope you have a good ride!!
Sprocket
Title: Re: ID Hot Springs Main Map - Road closure due to construction. May 18 - end of July
Post by: sprocketgizmo on June 24, 2020, 10:01:55 am
Jeremy,
Alright!!  you made it through the dreaded closure.  It's funny, we didn't think that Steel mountain was all that bad.  Of course by the time we got there we had been on the road for 10 days or so.  I think it seems big  because most people start in Boise and it is the first climb they encounter.  I hope you had an enjoyable experience.

Sprocket
Title: Re: ID Hot Springs Main Map - Road closure due to construction. May 18 - end of July
Post by: skiercrocker on June 29, 2020, 05:24:37 pm
As of last week the downstream section seemed to be complete, and they were starting to work on the upper section. They seem to still be trying to keep cyclists out, but we made it through just fine by waiting until construction was done for the day, and using the old pre-rebuild route, not the new roads they are building.
Title: Re: ID Hot Springs Main Map - Road closure due to construction. May 18 - end of July
Post by: poidogwandering on June 30, 2020, 03:36:45 pm
We're starting a CC loop of the bottom portion of the route (using the Lowman Cuttoff) from Ketchum this weekend.  I was reading a blog (https://www.brianlucido.com/idaho-hot-springs-loop/) about this route.  Brian mentions using Skeleton Creek Trail (Trail #024) up to Little Skeleton Creek Trail to forest service road 014 to 011 that has bridge over the South Fork then over Fleck Summit down to Smoky Bar.   When I look at this on Google Maps and on topo maps, this appears to be a very rideable route.

Any locals have info on the Skeleton Creek (024) and Little Skeleton Creek trails?  Rideable?  Too exposed? It's difficult to tell from Google Earth, but they look good.  And it looks like a good, short bypass of the construction site.  Thanks for any insights.

Poi Dog
Title: Re: ID Hot Springs Main Map - Road closure due to construction. May 18 - end of July
Post by: poidogwandering on July 01, 2020, 11:16:07 pm
July 1st, 2020 update from the Forest Service.  Explicitly mentions bicycles not be permitted and calls out that they are irked that some have gone through.  Also, mentions weekday closures near Worswick Hot Springs.  https://www.fs.usda.gov/detail/sawtooth/news-events/?cid=FSEPRD759963

Hopefully the Skeleton Creek route will work out even though that update mentions that road 012 will also be closed for construction with limited times to get by (and the Skeleton Creek trail bypass I have uses that road to return to 227. 

It's gonna make for an adventure.

Poi Dog
Title: Re: ID Hot Springs Main Map - Road closure due to construction. May 18 - end of July
Post by: CMajernik on July 08, 2020, 03:57:05 pm
This is what the USFS project update says that was mentioned in the previous post:

Please note that from now until the South Fork Boise River Road “realignments” are completed (sometime in August), the area along the FR 227 washouts between Bowns Campground and the confluence of the South Fork Boise River/Big Smoky Creek will be closed for public safety.  This includes all travel, motorized and non-motorized (bicycling, walking, etc.)  Please plan ahead to take a different route, i.e. through Fairfield.  Bicycles and motorcycles have been traveling through the construction zone and this must stop!  Please help avoid an accident or a delay in completing the road reconnection by staying clear of construction activities and not traveling through the closure.  Tickets and fines will be given to those who do not heed this closure.
Title: Re: ID Hot Springs Main Map - Road closure due to construction. May 18 - end of July
Post by: atbnomad on July 10, 2020, 10:49:33 am
you should look up the Smoke and Fire gravel race that starts in Boise . they have a reroute that will get riders around the road construction . Elev8/208 Bickepacking on facebook . I live in ketchum and have been following the construction progress .
Title: Re: ID Hot Springs Main Map - Road closure due to construction. May 18 - end of July
Post by: ntaylor on July 10, 2020, 12:20:34 pm
It sounds like the FR 227 detour that the Smoke and Fire event (https://smokenfire420.wordpress.com/route/) will use will take participants (CCW) through Pine, Soldier, and over Couch Summit back to the main route. This has been suggested by a local sprocketgizmo in a previous post. Here is a link to the route: https://ridewithgps.com/routes/33320179

As others have stated, this includes less hot desert sagebrush riding than ACA's official detour and will return a rider to the main route faster than going all the way east to Hailey. As for challenges, the climb up Couch Summit (about 1000 ft in 4 mi.) is followed by the climb up Dollarhide Summit (2500 ft in 9 mi) just 4.5 mi. further to the east.

Additionally, this detour rejoins the main route directly at the intersection of FR 094 and FR 227, where the road closure west of Worswick Hot Springs due to hauling rock for construction is slated to occur starting July 8. To avoid this closure, a rider can stick to the official ACA detour. Here is the USFS statement on this closure:

Beginning as early as July 8, the contractors will start hauling rock from along Forest Road 227 west of Worswick Hotsprings to the Bowns Project Area.  Full daytime closures on the 227 road between Five Points (intersection of FR 094 and FR 227) through the “narrows” to Worswick Hotsprings will occur at that time on weekdays only.  Travel over Couch Summit to Smoky Bar will not be affected, nor will travel to Little Smoky Creek (or Ketchum) from Wells Summit.

Nathan
ACA
Title: Re: ID Hot Springs Main Map - Road closure due to construction. May 18 - end of July
Post by: ntaylor on July 10, 2020, 12:28:24 pm
Sorry, the distance between passes was off in my above post:

"the climb up Couch Summit (about 1000 ft in 4 mi.) is followed by the climb up Dollarhide Summit (2500 ft in 9 mi) just 4.5 mi. further to the east"

should say

"the climb up Couch Summit (about 1000 ft in 4 mi.) is followed by the climb up Dollarhide Summit (2500 ft in 9 mi) 18 mi. further to the east"

Nathan
Title: Re: ID Hot Springs Main Map - Road closure due to construction. May 18 - end of July
Post by: ntaylor on July 10, 2020, 01:49:33 pm
Here is the official ACA detour: https://ridewithgps.com/routes/32604552?utm_source=BE&utm_campaign=20200514_Routes

Nathan
Title: Re: ID Hot Springs Main Map - Road closure due to construction. May 18 - end of July
Post by: joebrod on July 26, 2020, 02:56:08 pm
Is this repair the section I have been seeing in youtube videos as I do my research for a possible ride? 
It's been in need of repair for several years?

https://youtu.be/WuQFw0z5JR4?t=593

Title: Re: ID Hot Springs Main Map - Road closure due to construction. May 18 - end of July
Post by: aweissfeld on July 27, 2020, 06:00:32 pm
Wondering if anyone here has ridden this ID Hot Springs route in Oct? Temps look fine, but what about snow? Thanks - love the collective wisdom of this group!
Title: Re: ID Hot Springs Main Map - Road closure due to construction. May 18 - end of July
Post by: joebrod on July 28, 2020, 02:36:55 pm
Any local or recent riders know if the construction crews are there over the weekends?
Title: Re: ID Hot Springs Main Map - Road closure due to construction. May 18 - early Sept.
Post by: CMajernik on August 04, 2020, 05:58:23 pm
The construction is still happening. I spoke to the USFS project manager and he says it will be done in early September.

The contractors are hauling rock from along FR 227 west of Worswick Hotsprings to the Bowns Project Area. Full daytime closures on the FR 227  between Five Points (intersection of FR 094 and FR 227) through the “narrows” to Worswick Hotsprings will occur at that time on weekdays only.


Title: Re: ID Hot Springs Main Map - Road closure due to construction. May 18 - early Sept.
Post by: joebrod on August 10, 2020, 11:31:54 pm
Thank you for the update. I've been delaying my trip with the hope that they would be done in August as scheduled but it doesn't look that way.  Thank you for the map too!
Title: Re: ID Hot Springs Main Map - Road closure due to construction. May 18 - early Sept.
Post by: Jeebs on August 19, 2020, 02:10:41 pm
Any updates on the closure? We're planning to ride the southern route counter-clockwise starting next Friday at Ketchum, which would put us through the closure area on Labor Day weekend. I emailed the FS supervisor and he said the work was likely going to continue into September, but he didn't provide any details. Is it strictly a daytime closure as shown on the above map, or is it a permanent closure? I'd be fine waiting until after 6 if that's all it takes.

I'm also looking at detours that don't put us through Fairfield. One option is Trail 091 (Boardman Creek) up to FS 010. This would put us back at FS 227 near Five Points Campground, but to avoid the Worswick closure area we'd have to buckwhack up to FS 471D/471 and ride back to FS 227. Any thoughts on this detour? Would be 32 miles with 4000' vertical up, 3500' vertical down (compared with 12 miles and 650' vert on the main route).
Title: Re: ID Hot Springs Main Map - Road closure due to construction. May 18 - early Sept.
Post by: Jeebs on August 21, 2020, 09:47:26 am
I got some clarification from the FS. Worswick closure area is not in effect, and Bowns area is closed with little enforcement presence after hours or on weekends.
Title: Re: ID Hot Springs Main Map - Road closure due to construction. May 18 - early Sept.
Post by: joebrod on August 22, 2020, 03:14:08 pm
I am in McCall as I write this going ccw. I spoke to a couple the other day in Stanley who just went through the construction on the weekend (ccw also)and said it was basically finished. They said it was no problem to get thru on a weekend so I think you would be fine if you clear it by Monday.

There is another road closure to be aware of and that is 474 out of warm lake to e. Fork road is closed to traffic from 7-4 on weekdays. They are patching sections of road.

They are pretty much finished south of poverty flats CG . I entered after 4pm by coincidence from the warm lake side as the trucks were leaving for the day.
Title: Re: ID Hot Springs Main Map - Road closure due to construction. May 18 - early Sept.
Post by: joebrod on September 05, 2020, 05:41:29 pm
@jeebs did you make it through the construction zone?
Title: Re: ID Hot Springs Main Map - Road closure due to construction. May 18 - early Sept.
Post by: Jeebs on September 06, 2020, 10:40:27 pm
We sure did. The road was supposed to officially open at 6pm on Friday prior to the Labor Day weekend... we arrived around 3:30PM and they only had a few hundred feet of grading to finish.  We were waved through without any issue and I enjoyed a freshly watered virgin road to myself.

The entire trip was amazing. The climbs are huge and the sun was hot, but the rewards were plenty. I soaked in 14 hot springs in total. Each night concluded with a hot spring or shower before bed, which was sooooo nice after a sweaty ride. We did the southern loop counter-clockwise from Ketchum in 8 days with one layover day in Atlanta, which I would highly recommend. We took James Creek out of Atlanta rather than the single track option, and I wouldn't hesitate to do it again. The grade was too steep to ride in places, but it's short and sweet. We topped out in the early morning 2 hours after leaving Atlanta. On the last day we rode 93 miles out all the way back to Ketchum. One of the highlights was descending Dollarhide Summit in the dark, and stopping in a well-lit deer camp to fix a flat. A group of drunken bow hunters hooked us up with Coors Light and a hot bowl of shrimp fettuccine Alfredo. I'll be back next year for the northern loop.
Title: Re: ID Hot Springs Main Map - Road closure due to construction. May 18 - early Sept.
Post by: joebrod on September 07, 2020, 02:09:08 pm
That Coors sounds perfect, I soo wished I was offered a cold beer on my trip. I heard back from the FS and as you say he said the road is open.

How was the Air? Part of the reason I cut my trip short was the smoke, it was soo bad. I'm all set to go back this week to finish (CCW - Ketchum to McCall) but I can't see how the air has gotten better, at least on the northern section.  I'm leaning towards going back in May or June.

Thanks for the response
Title: Re: ID Hot Springs Main Map - Road closure due to construction. May 18 - early Sept.
Post by: Jeebs on September 07, 2020, 09:44:45 pm
A small fire blew up the day we left Atlanta and we had some smoke that morning, but otherwise the air was great. It seemed to clear out just as we started and stayed good the entire week.