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Title: Are you postponing a tour to 2021?
Post by: SwampYankee on July 08, 2020, 05:49:20 pm
Hello everyone,

I am wondering if I am the only one who's looking at 2021 to cross the US? How many of you have postponed your cross country or TA tour to 2021? I am thinking it will be a good year to meet others, assuming we are done with this pandemic by then!!

Thoughts?
Title: Re: Are you postponing a Cross America tour to 2021?
Post by: hikerjer on July 11, 2020, 12:00:34 am
Unfortunately, I find myself in the same situation.  I had planned on leaving Portland,Or for Savannah in July but it doesn't look like that's going to happen especially in light of the recent Covid spikes  Guess it' be 2021 but I'm not getting any younger and that sort of concerns me.  I can't keep saying"next year".
Title: Re: Are you postponing a Cross America tour to 2021?
Post by: SwampYankee on July 11, 2020, 07:46:59 am
I hear you! I'll be 64 next year, and want to do this NOW!, so, 2021 it is assuming virus is slain and the world still stands.

Others?
Title: Re: Are you postponing a Cross America tour to 2021?
Post by: big blue cat on July 11, 2020, 12:13:37 pm
I am not going cross country but I am going on an 8 day tour in Aug. from Jackson, Wy. to
Billings, Mt. I may have to do more dispersed camping than I like. Some of
the campgrounds in the towns I am going through aren't taking tents because
of the bathroom situation.   Those of you still planning on going on some sort of
tour, you might call ahead.
Title: Re: Are you postponing a Cross America tour to 2021?
Post by: SwampYankee on July 11, 2020, 01:09:38 pm
That is a great point. I have been looking at either the Erie canal trail, Buffalo to Albany, or, the coast of Maine. Haven’t thought about the need to check ahead on tent camping.
Title: Re: Are you postponing a tour to 2021?
Post by: PNWRider92 on July 11, 2020, 04:05:32 pm
I was originally going to ride from Nashville to New Orleans in April on the Natchez Trace Parkway and Great Rivers South routes. I postponed that until the spring 2021.

What I am doing this fall though is New Orleans to Charleston (9/7 to 10/5) on the Southern Tier and Atlantic Coast routes.

No issues booking tent sites. Staying at a lot of state parks and KOAs but even privately owned campgrounds were open to tents. A few were only open to cyclist using tents and not car campers.

Only place I was turned away from was Dauphin Island Campground in Alabama.

State Parks and KOAs were a little more expensive but not terrible.
Title: Re: Are you postponing a Cross America tour to 2021?
Post by: hikerjer on July 12, 2020, 11:31:05 pm
 8 day tour in Aug. from Jackson, Wy. to
Billings, Mt.

I did that tour in reverse a couple of years ago. Great ride. Are you planning on riding the Beartooth Highway?  Bit of a challenge but well worth it.
Title: Re: Are you postponing a tour to 2021?
Post by: big blue cat on July 13, 2020, 06:40:54 am
I did that ride about 25 yrs. ago, and you're right it was a tuff climb.  This time
we don't have the time so from Cody to Bridger to Billings.
Title: Re: Are you postponing a tour to 2021?
Post by: EmilyG on July 13, 2020, 02:09:11 pm
We were doing a 30-day grand round-about through Oregon/Washington in July, but postponed to next year.   Back in May, we had to make the decision so my partner could get his shifts back at work.  When we postponed, OR/WA were doing a great job of tamping down the virus, but it's now surging again. So we made the right decision.  Not sure if 2021 will be a go, we just know so little about this novel virus.   My partner is an RN at an emergency room, so he has a front-line view of the pandemic...

Title: Re: Are you postponing a tour to 2021?
Post by: aggie on July 14, 2020, 02:03:09 pm
I was going to start a trip on July 28 and I was traveling by Amtrak.  However Amtrak has reduced staffing and some locations that used to offer baggage service (check the bike in the baggage car) no longer offer the service.  Since I couldn't take my bike there is no need to travel.  If you are going to travel by Amtrak make sure you are able to take your bike to your destination.  Amtrak has not updated their stations info to indicate they are no longer manned and offer baggage service.  I only found out by checking my reservation online.  Amtrak didn't bother to let me know even though my reservation included a spot (paid for) for my bike.
Title: Re: Are you postponing a tour to 2021?
Post by: LouMelini on July 17, 2020, 06:17:39 pm
For Big blue cat: I arrived home yesterday from a West Yellowstone to Salt Lake City tour. Fortunately there are hiker/biker sites in the national parks. Obtaining a campground site on a weekend, and perhaps on a weekday is difficult if not impossible. I hitched a ride to save 2 days in order to arrive home on a Thursday vs. this weekend. Campgrounds are full with reservations and first come/first serve fill up early. I was turned away twice, which is double the number of times I've been turned away in 23,000 miles of touring. I was prepared to stealth camp, but I prefer the relative luxury of campgrounds.
Title: Re: Are you postponing a tour to 2021?
Post by: SwampYankee on July 17, 2020, 11:42:53 pm
Are you seeing lots of RVs out there?
Title: Re: Are you postponing a tour to 2021?
Post by: PNWRider92 on July 17, 2020, 11:52:34 pm
I heard RV rental is at an all time high right now.
Title: Re: Are you postponing a tour to 2021?
Post by: staehpj1 on July 18, 2020, 06:43:45 am
I put off my plans for this year and am not optimistic about 2021.

I don't plan to fly again until there is a vaccine and I am skeptical about all the happy talk of a quick roll out of one. Buses and trains aren't necessarily better so  I figure that I am likely to wind driving to whatever trips I do when I get back to that.  My preference in touring tends to be point to point stuff rather than loop trips so that becomes even tougher without using public transit.

I am thinking that I just might be more likely to go backpacking or canoe camping rather than bike touring when I do venture out again.

It sucks to be grounded for the pandemic at age 69 when I am already thinking about how few years I may have to do some types of trips and activities.  On the other hand I have already done my main bucket list bike tour stuff.  Truth be told the main bucket list one was the Trans America and that was my first tour so the rest were really gravy.

I have already given up on some of the most aggressive non bike touring bucket list stuff.  A lot of peaks I once wanted to bag are beyond any hope now.  A lot of rivers I wanted to run are out of the question since I can't/won't even run a lot of ones I used to routinely do.  I think about motorcycle racing again, but am kidding myself. Sailing around the world isn't even a dream any more.  Getting old sucks, but at least I have a lot of memories of having done a lot of cool stuff and hopefully have time to do quite a few more even if they will be more limited than what I did in the past.
Title: Re: Are you postponing a tour to 2021?
Post by: LouMelini on July 18, 2020, 07:38:46 am
Are you seeing lots of RVs out there?

RV's are out there, but basic tent sites are being filled up quickly by folks with large Coleman tents. One KOA manager said tent sites was the largest increase in his business.
Title: Re: Are you postponing a tour to 2021?
Post by: PNWRider92 on July 18, 2020, 11:41:05 am
Are you seeing lots of RVs out there?

RV's are out there, but basic tent sites are being filled up quickly by folks with large Coleman tents. One KOA manager said tent sites was the largest increase in his business.

Good to see tent sites filling up.

While planning for my trip this fall two campgrounds turned me away. They’re not allowing tents right now.
Title: Re: Are you postponing a tour to 2021?
Post by: SwampYankee on July 18, 2020, 02:48:32 pm
I see RV sales lots are empty as well.... somebody is buying renting them I would assume.
Title: Re: Are you postponing a tour to 2021?
Post by: hikerjer on July 18, 2020, 05:44:05 pm
"I put off my plans for this year and am not optimistic about 2021."

I posted once before on this topic but guess I will again. Boy, I hear you loud and clear on all accounts, stpaehpj1.  I postponed my cross country trip again this year (last time it was family issues) and it's pretty disappointing but that's just the way things are. Like you, the high peaks and fast rivers haven't the call they used to although I still enjoy backpacking, canoeing milder waters and bicycling - more no racing though.  I've got a couple of years on you and I guess we just have to realize that time takes it's toll on everyone. I'm still hopeful that I can take the x-country tour next year as I feel right now I'm in good enough physical shape and hopefully will be next year but  who knows.  I know I'm getting to the point that I can't keep saying next year. Still things could be worse. I mean I haven't had to get up and go to work every morning for a number of years and that's a definite plus. There are still many simple pleasures to partake in.-  easy day hikes, long bicycle rides, morning walks with my dog and road trips even if they are limited these days. I tell myself (so does my wife) that I've got to be thankful for what you've got and hope for the best in the future. No sense in worry about it.  There are many that have it far worse than us.

Hope things work out for you in the future.
Title: Re: Are you postponing a tour to 2021?
Post by: staehpj1 on July 18, 2020, 05:55:53 pm
I'm still hopeful that I can take the x-country tour next year as I feel right now I'm in good enough physical shape and hopefully will be next year but  who knows.  I know I'm getting to the point that I can't keep saying next year. Still things could be worse. I mean I haven't had to get up and go to work every morning for a number of years and that's a definite plus. There are still many simple pleasures to partake in.-  easy day hikes, long bicycle rides, morning walks with my dog and road trips even if they are limited these days. I tell myself (so does my wife) that I've got to be thankful for what you've got and hope for the best in the future. No sense in worry about it.  There are many that have it far worse than us.
Yes we need to be thankful that we are still able to do a lot of good stuff.  Not sure how old you are or what your limitations are, but folks do manage to ride across the US at pretty advanced ages, so hopefully the pandemic won't stop you, but will only delay you.
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Hope things work out for you in the future.
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Title: Re: Are you postponing a tour to 2021?
Post by: hikerjer on July 18, 2020, 06:00:14 pm
71 and still feeling pretty good. Fortunately, I'm to the point that time is not a factor, my financial resources are pretty good and I can go as slow as I like.
Title: Re: Are you postponing a tour to 2021?
Post by: LouMelini on July 18, 2020, 06:40:42 pm
With hikerjer at 71 and staehpji and I at 69 with could start a new topic on old guys and bike touring
Title: Re: Are you postponing a tour to 2021?
Post by: staehpj1 on July 18, 2020, 07:15:07 pm
I haven't been riding enough lately to be super fit, but I pretty sure I could still make decent mileage on a long tour if I either trained a little or rode into shape on the tour.  That could be true for another ten plus years or I could be falling apart soon.  Dad was still riding daily in his late 70s and managed 100 mile days once in a while, right up until he died of a stroke at 79,  You just never know.  In any case the lost time does make me think about it.
Title: Re: Are you postponing a tour to 2021?
Post by: hikerjer on July 18, 2020, 08:48:41 pm
Ya gotta move.
Title: Re: Are you postponing a tour to 2021?
Post by: hikerjer on July 18, 2020, 08:52:11 pm

While planning for my trip this fall two campgrounds turned me away. They’re not allowing tents right now."
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Is this in reference national park or state park campgrounds?  If so, it surprises me. I've never been turned away from a hiker/biker site at a state or national while touring even at the height of the season and even when they were overfull. They always made room for me and my bike.
Title: Re: Are you postponing a tour to 2021?
Post by: rhody on July 19, 2020, 06:31:32 pm
My son & I were refused tent camping at a KOA in New York and had to pay $135 for a cabin because they had to keep the wash rooms closed.
Title: Re: Are you postponing a tour to 2021?
Post by: hikerjer on July 20, 2020, 08:23:20 pm
That would KOA alright. They will gouge you every chance they get.  I would not deal with them for whatever reason and their headquarters is in my hometown. They  are not a particularly honorable company or good neighbor,  IMO. Of course, a lot depends on the local franchise owner but generally, I'd rather set my tent  up in the middle of downtown Detroit.

As for getting turned away at hiker/biker sites,I don't think any state or federal cps would do that.  Private,  I wouldn't be surprised.
Title: Re: Are you postponing a tour to 2021?
Post by: LouMelini on July 20, 2020, 09:21:32 pm
I agree with hikerjer. I was turned away only in campgrounds without hiker.biker sites. I stayed at 2 hiker/biker sites in Yellowstone and Teton NP. However at Colter Bay in Teton NP, there were 3 vehicles using the hiker/biker campsites when I woke up in the morning. They must have come in after sunset when I was asleep. I have heard this is happening frequently around the country due to increased demand for campsites.
Title: Re: Are you postponing a tour to 2021?
Post by: SwampYankee on July 20, 2020, 09:25:47 pm
I think the thread on old guys and bike touring is a GREAT idea.... go for it Hikerjer and Loumellini
Title: Re: Are you postponing a tour to 2021?
Post by: driftlessregion on July 23, 2020, 02:09:53 pm
I just finished a 12 day tour in the Keweenaw Peninsula of Michigan camping at state parks, town parks, and a national forest campground. Michigan regs say they can't turn away cyclists (Wisconsin too) and we had to remind them of that once. Our main problem was restaurants that did not have outdoor seating and though Michigan has an order to wear masks not everyone did. I got tested this week and was negative. Our group consisted of ages 68 (me), 66, 63, 58, and 36. We postponed a tour in Montana until next year.
Title: Re: Are you postponing a tour to 2021?
Post by: hikerjer on July 23, 2020, 02:56:19 pm
With hikerjer at 71 and staehpji and I at 69 with could start a new topic on old guys and bike touring

Great idea.  I'll be sure to join in when I get old.  ;D
Title: Re: Are you postponing a tour to 2021?
Post by: hikerjer on July 23, 2020, 03:00:08 pm
I agree with hikerjer. I was turned away only in campgrounds without hiker.biker sites. I stayed at 2 hiker/biker sites in Yellowstone and Teton NP. However at Colter Bay in Teton NP, there were 3 vehicles using the hiker/biker campsites when I woke up in the morning. They must have come in after sunset when I was asleep. I have heard this is happening frequently around the country due to increased demand for campsites.

I've experienced that a few times in the past in national parks.  Can't really fault the folks as they really had no other option other than driving many miles through the night in the hopes of finding somewhere outside of the park.
Title: Re: Are you postponing a tour to 2021?
Post by: LouMelini on July 23, 2020, 03:11:55 pm
I agree; I don't mind vehicles using the sites as long as touring bicyclists have a guaranteed spot. There was plenty of room at the Colter Bay hiker/biker area for overflow cars. In Colter Bay, the hiker/biker sites are individual sites with a parking stall so it is easy to put cars there and make the area more efficient. At Madison campground in Yellowstone NP there is simply a plot of land with several picnic tables designated as the hiker/biker area. This set-up would not accommodate cars, though perhaps a motorcycle or two.
Title: Re: Are you postponing a tour to 2021?
Post by: adventure124 on August 07, 2020, 10:13:55 am
Hello,

I'm also still doing a bike tour this year. I think it is safe as long as the tour is not crossing any city.

Kind regards,

Carina
Title: Re: Are you postponing a tour to 2021?
Post by: CWBurcar on October 01, 2020, 01:45:19 am
I debated going on a short one this year but all the campgrounds that i planned on stopping at were closed at the time. From my understanding the county's had a extremely bad spike in Covid cases an closed down for the year. I plan on doing on next year but that could still be changed if Covid is still hanging around.