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Bicycle Travel => General Discussion => Topic started by: Turboterry on October 11, 2005, 05:51:55 pm

 
Title: Doctor Sez NO!
Post by: Turboterry on October 11, 2005, 05:51:55 pm
TextI recently underwent a bout with prostate problems and my urologist suggested that "I find another hobby".  I didn't say anything at the time but did manage to go out and ride the next day.  I've ridden 1000's of miles over the last 10 years and average about 4 to 5000 annually.  The diagnosis was prostatitis with an abcess on the prostate.  I'm just not ready to throw in the towel without trying to get some more info on the subject.  My urologist is NOT a cyclist. My current bike is a TREK 5.2SL Madone with a stock Bontrager seat.  Suggestions anyone?  I love the magazine and look forward to it's arrival each time.  Thanks for answering, keep the round side down. Ciao.

Title: Doctor Sez NO!
Post by: scott.laughlin on October 11, 2005, 08:52:41 pm
I'm 68, and Iride a lot, everyday.  I don't cover the miles I once did, but I do put in the time.  

I haven't faced what you're facing. But I think if I were, I would buy a recumbent. Throwing in the towel?  It's not an option.

The cycling does so many positive things for me to even think about trading it for a rocking chair.

Scott

Title: Doctor Sez NO!
Post by: DaveB on October 11, 2005, 10:22:32 pm
The recumbent does sound like a good possibility.  

Another may be to try one of the new saddles with a center cutout.  It can't hurt what it doesn't touch.

This message was edited by DaveB on 10-11-05 @ 6:22 PM
Title: Doctor Sez NO!
Post by: LobodeSolo on October 11, 2005, 11:49:03 pm
I met a fellow in the spring in Calgary and he was doing a cross Canada trip with his family. His boys were in there 20's and he was 50ish. He was riding a recumbent and said that although it wasn't great on hills..at the end of the day he didn't have a sore butt!

Title: Doctor Sez NO!
Post by: Peaks on October 12, 2005, 06:28:35 pm
I'd get a second opinion.

Title: Doctor Sez NO!
Post by: jack on October 13, 2005, 12:13:33 pm
I use a seat with the cut out.  Actually its a specialized brand.  I couldn't go back to the stock seats after 3 years with the cut out.

 

Title: Doctor Sez NO!
Post by: erniegrillo on October 13, 2005, 08:12:59 pm

please see http://www.nytimes.com/2005/10/04/health/nutrition/04bike.html?pagewante
d=1  

This is an excellent article on possible problems caused by bicycle seats. In short, they recommend a "noseless" saddle, commonly sold as "the Seat".
I'd suggest also checking your bike fit and saddle position.




Title: Doctor Sez NO!
Post by: pmspirito on October 13, 2005, 11:52:35 pm
For all the info on recumbents go to www.bentrideronline.com   its the only way to go

best wishes from the back of the pack,  Peter & Judy Spirito
Title: Doctor Sez NO!
Post by: MrBent on October 13, 2005, 11:56:30 pm
I urge you to take a serious look at recumbents.  They come in a vast array of designs suitable for almost all types of riding except technical single-track off road.  For anything else, you can find a recumbent to do the job.  Want to go fast?  Carbent makes an 18 lb. speed machine.  Want to ride the dirt back roads?  Check out a Lightfoot Ranger.  Seriously, the variety is mind blowing.  All of them will be much easier on your prostate than any upright.

Cheers,

Scotty

Title: Doctor Sez NO!
Post by: phil on November 02, 2005, 08:41:10 pm
Greetings,

My prostate has been a problem too. But, I love to ride. On the recommendation from a friend I started taking Saw Palmetto 160mg twice a day. My prostate has gotten smaller and my PSA is down to 2.3. My bike's saddle (23 years old) is all leather without padding. Riding isn't a problem anymore.

Best regards,

pedalpusher
Title: Doctor Sez NO!
Post by: SoNouveau on November 03, 2005, 01:02:24 am
I'm also of the opinion that you should get a second opinion--and then a third. Science, at best, is really an art.

Title: Doctor Sez NO!
Post by: driftlessregion on November 08, 2005, 12:17:58 am
Check out http://www.roadbikerider.com/noseless.htm?sessid=haTmpKUvUPJXw a review of the noseless saddles by Ed Pavelka,  one of the most respected cyclists in the country. The problem with the NY Times article is that it doesn't say who was in the test group and what kind of saddles were used. I've never met anyone who have had problems when using a Brooks saddle. Maybe that is because the leather gives. All other saddles except the Saddle Co Flow (http://www.saddleco.com) have a hard plastic base under that nice leather cover, which is why they are notoriously uncomfortable.

Title: Doctor Sez NO!
Post by: driftlessregion on November 09, 2005, 12:00:07 am
Also check out a new saddle that supposedly "increases blood and oxygen supply to the genitals by an average of 4x over a traditional tear-drop shaped bicycle seat design while riding in an aero, drop bar position." See it at http://www.performancebike.com/E3saddle.cfm

Title: Doctor Sez NO!
Post by: driftlessregion on November 10, 2005, 11:07:19 am
Here's a very promising alternative: http://www.bycycleinc.com.

Title: Doctor Sez NO!
Post by: MrBent on December 11, 2005, 01:59:18 am
RANS bikes has a new line that looks really interesting.  Initial reviews are very positive.  These are so-called "crank forward" designs, not true recumbents.  They're worth looking into for folks who are not happy with conventional bike saddles.
http://www.ransbikes.com/ITRComfy.htm

Cheers,

Scott

Title: Doctor Sez NO!
Post by: laternser on December 11, 2005, 07:54:35 am
I have been riding for 40 years and long distance backroad (gravel) touring for the last twenty plus
years.  Almost all of this was on Brooks saddles.
The last tour ridden on a Brooks enlarged my prostate
so much that I rocked like a boat when I sat down.
Note: I was not in pain on the bike but it sure felt
odd to sit down.

The last tour (3500 miles from Nebraska up into Canada)
I used a Terry saddle (see www.mtbr.com saddle reviews).

Absolutely NO prostate problems.  I did have a certain amount of saddle discomfort --- but I tend to spend all
the daylight hours on the bike.  The cutouts on the Terry were magical ...

The Terry Liberator is a standard nose saddle design.
Plastic shell covered with foam and leather cover.  Center cutouts where the important bits hit.  I long for the comfort of a Brooks saddle --- but the
prostate pressure is just not a good idea.  If only I could find a saddle that combines the best features of
the two saddles.

By the way, I am 6' 8" and 300 pounds.  If the Terry
could tolerate me it can tolerate anyone.

Title: Doctor Sez NO!
Post by: driftlessregion on December 14, 2005, 09:50:41 pm
Does anyone know if damage occurs without any symtom such as numbness? If we don't have numbness can we assume we are out of danger?

Title: Doctor Sez NO!
Post by: Turboterry on December 15, 2005, 12:35:24 am
In my case there wasn't any numbness at all.  I was coming back from a ride, got sick, threw up and 3 days later went to the ER because things weren't getting any better.  The diagnosis initially was a urinary tract infection (in guys?, not to common) but that was changed once I got in to see a urologist who knew what was going on.  I also had to do battle with my HMO primary care guy, who I ditched and others along the way.
I recently decided to stop riding altogether to give it more time to heal even though I've ridden about 1000 miles since mid-Sept.  My wife and I are going to Australia/NZ next month on a tour and I don't want any repeat performances.
As a rule I don't get sick more than a few days at a time but this one really nailed me down.  I spent more time horizontal than vertical for over a month, no fun at all.  I'll miss the riding but figure I'll start again in a couple of months at a more reduced pace and maybe a new rig.
Thanks for all the help and suggestions. Ciao!!

Title: Doctor Sez NO!
Post by: biker_james on December 15, 2005, 09:01:32 am
I wasn't aware of prostate problems arising form riding and saddle pressure. We have all heard the massive (and not entirely correct) story about impotence and cycling, but I haven't heard of a case like yours. Are you sure that it was the saddle that caused this problem?

Title: Doctor Sez NO!
Post by: TheDaltonBoys on December 15, 2005, 09:35:10 am
Ditto on Terry saddles, all I've owned in the now 7 years I've been car-less.....that "slot" makes all the difference for me. Turbo - Please tell us you and your wife are going to the wonders down under for more than just 2 weeks. In New Zealand the North Island has flatter topography than the South Island, but the South Island is almost Alpine like....get a white bait sandwich while your there. enjoy the voyage  Mark of the Dalton Boys

Title: Doctor Sez NO!
Post by: driftlessregion on December 18, 2005, 09:42:49 pm
How are we to know which saddle, if any, protects us? I have never had numbness with my Brooks saddles, including two past seasons of over 3500 miles each. Last week I used my Selle Italia Trans Am (identical to the Terry Fly and the manufacturer of the Terry) and had numbness, (not to mention a sore butt since it isn't as soft as the Brooks) even with the nifty cutout.