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Routes / Re: Amboy to Henderson to Kingman
« on: February 22, 2024, 07:44:15 pm »
Thanks John - I hope to be there the 16th.  Timing is everything, eh?


The plan never survives the first pedal stroke :-)

Routes / Re: Amboy to Henderson to Kingman
« on: February 18, 2024, 11:19:40 am »
I’ve found that RideWithGps avoids busy highways, even those with good shoulders. Once you use street view to verify the shoulder, it’s best to switch from cycling to driving so RideWithGps won’t route you off the highway at every opportunity.

I called the RideWithGPS folks and the cycling mode emphasizes safety - so they take you to dirt roads whenever possible.  The driving mode emphasizes distance, so they use whichever route is the shortest.  If you know what you are doing you can make either work well, but... 

When it works, I have been happy with Google Maps, but there have been some memorable failures.  Trying to ride from Buffalo to Sheridan Wyo and avoid I=25 it took me down many miles of dirt roads before it asked me to turn up some ranchers driveway :-).  And I would really like an easy way to export that route to my GPS to save phone battery.

Good to know about taking the bicycle through the bridge - I have gotten away with that a several times, but also been turned around because the bridge was completely out and many miles of backtracking.  All part of the adventure that makes bicycle touring so much fun!


Routes / Re: Amboy to Henderson to Kingman
« on: February 17, 2024, 01:27:20 pm »
Thanks John.  That is my feeling also.

Do you know if that bridge over the Canadian on Rt 66 by your place is still out?  Heading to Ok City on rt66 & then the Eastern Express you shared with me then diverting in Atlanta to Savannah. 



Routes / Amboy to Henderson to Kingman
« on: February 17, 2024, 12:29:46 pm »
I am riding Route 66 in early March and want to detour to Henderson (southern Las Vegas) to see family.  Has anyone ridden the route from Amboy through the Mojave Preserve through Kelso, Cima, etc?  Wondering about water availability.  Google says the Visitors center in Kelso is temporarily closed.  the other option is to follow the I-15 corridor from Barstow.

How about Henderson to Kingman.  For some reason Route With GPS and Google both decline to route me down Hwy 93.  Any idea why?

Thank Much


Routes / Re: TA - Kansas US 54
« on: December 13, 2023, 07:39:46 pm »
Yep - I always figured "He's never done that before" would be great on my tombstone :-)


Routes / Re: TA - Kansas US 54
« on: December 13, 2023, 02:19:35 pm »
Routing is a lot more than just traffic and lodging.
Amen to that!  People ask me weekly for route advice saying I want to go from X to Y. I am usually happy to help if I can but it can take a while in which case some get mad at me that it may take a month or two to get to them. And I do it for free.  I have over a thousand routes in various stages of development and have learned it takes about an 3 hours on average to come up with 10 miles of a cue-sheeted route (less west of Mississippi River, more to east). 

In order to do a decent route, you have to research: 
- Traffic counts (compare to state AADT maps, Strava heat maps, etc.) 
- Road conditions (shoulders, rumble strips, line of site, bike lanes/trails, etc.) 
- Services, including but not limited to campgrounds, restaurants, hotels, grocery stores, convenience stores, dollar stores, points of interest, major climbs, major bridges (if safe to cross), paved route vs. mostly paved but saves a bunch of miles, entertainment, laundry, major general merchandise stores (Walmart), bicycle shops, airports, trains, car rentals, bus stations, hospitals, etc.

Once that is all done, you have to put it onto a GPS (I use Garmin's BaseCamp) and then write up a cue sheet for each direction and then put it onto RWGPS.

ACA maps are a bargain if you wanted to plan it yourself. A lot of people contact me mid-tour saying they have been following someone else's route but realized that person has a much different outlook on what makes a good route, i.e. they want the shortest paved route even if lots of traffic or conversely they want no traffic even if much much longer. Or perhaps the original route was for a person who only used hotels vs the follower wanted camping.

Unless you are going to go somewhere already unmapped, I suggest people buy a map from ACA (even if used on eBay).

I will now get off my soap box.

Tailwinds, John

Exactly right, but you forgot that the day after you made this great route they closed the main road you so carefully avoided and directed all the traffic to detour onto the little travelled backroad you chose :-)


Routes / Re: Northern Tier: Back to the old route?
« on: November 17, 2023, 11:53:51 am »
Last summer I rode the new Northern Tier through Montana, diverting at Glendive to go north to the confluence of the Yellowstone and the Missouri.  Even though the oil field traffic was greatly reduced from the peak, there was enough inconsiderate large truck drivers that I found it greatly annoying, although not life threatening, and would not go there again myself. 

Maybe as an alternate NT route?


Routes / Re: Oregon coast to Missouli routes
« on: November 17, 2023, 11:44:47 am »
The Louis and Clark route was chosen to follow the historical route as close as possible.  While the ride through the Columbia River Gorge looks incredible, before that you have to get from Astoria to through Portland and after that you have the dry rolling farm lands of the Palouse country until you get to the mountains. 

The TransAm was chosen to be more scenic, spending more time in the Coast range and Cascades. 

Last year I chose to take Amtrak to Albany OR, ride to Waldport on the coast, down to Florence and pick up the TransAm there on the Florence Alternate and joining the Northern Tier in Great Falls.

It was a great ride and while I missed the gorge, I absolutely loved the Oregon Coast, the Coast Range, Oregon Cascades, Blue Mountains, Hells Canyon, and Hwy 12 up to Lolo Pass (shared on both routes) is to die for.

I highly recommend the TransAm to Missoula. 

Use the satellite background on the ACA page and see what you think.


General Discussion / Re: Empire State Trail to NY City
« on: May 25, 2023, 05:41:07 pm »
Thanks - I'll put it on the list :-)


General Discussion / Empire State Trail to NY City
« on: May 24, 2023, 07:29:53 pm »
I am putting together a TransAm/Northern Tier ride from Florence OR to Buffalo and then looking at following the Empire State Trail to Albany and down to New York City to pick up Amtrak home to western Colorado. 

Everything works down to Poughkeepsie, but I am having a heck of a time finding anything under $200 / night from there south and that is a real budget buster - I'm self sustained, camping as much as possible and cheap motels when necessary and used to urban riding.  If anyone knows the area and has any suggestions, I would sure appreciate it.

I have no need to go into the city instead of hitting the coast elsewhere, but it sounds like a real hoot to ride to the tip of Manhattan :-)


General Discussion / Re: Reservations along the Icefields Highway?
« on: April 08, 2023, 12:28:54 pm »
Let us know how camping goes on the Icefield Hwy - I am planning that in the next couple of years and have the same questions :-)


General Discussion / Re: Adjust Your Plans for Touring in the West
« on: March 07, 2023, 01:28:49 pm »
I rode East last year along the borders of the Dismal Swamp and realized I probably knew just enough about swamps to get myself into real trouble should I venture deep into the interior on foot.

Similarly in 1969, after growing up in small town Colorado I went to graduate school at Illinois Tech on the south side of Chicago (32nd & Michigan).  They advertised walking distance to downtown, so I tried it - just once.  The white boy made it 4 blocks before 4 angry young men shouted something rude enough to scare my white ass back to school as quickly as possible.

It is always wise when traveling somewhere new to realize that you may not know as much about the hazards as you think you do, and checking with the locals is always a good idea.


General Discussion / Re: Adjust Your Plans for Touring in the West
« on: March 05, 2023, 04:54:10 pm »
I think a quick melt with flooding is a major concern.  Not just high water, but road damage.

I'm looking at routes from the Oregon Coast to Missoula with a flexible June 1 start. 

I'm thinking Newport to Portland to Lewis & Clark for the Columbia River Gorge and Palouse, or the TransAm from Florence for McKenzie pass, Smith Rock, and John Day.  Have to see how things go. 

The Columbia is big enough I don't really expect much flooding, but...


Routes / Re: Great Plains Gravel Route?
« on: March 01, 2023, 12:55:54 pm »
We lived in Houston through the 1980's and my memory is that March was the nicest weather in Texas - the wildflowers in the Hill Country were magnificent, so I was thinking early March for the start.  I looks like a great ride.  Anyone with more recent ideas?


General Discussion / Re: Return to beginning of ride info
« on: January 13, 2023, 09:37:08 am »

Last I heard Greyhound was not accepting bicycles anymore.  Do you know something I don't?


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