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Routes / Google Maps Street View on Trails?
« on: April 12, 2018, 08:53:15 pm »
I was just poking around and found some trails in Chicagoland that actually had street views of trails or multiuse paths.  I wasn't aware that was being done!  Are they hiring cyclists to video bike trails?  Where do I sign up?

The Erie Canal Trail is closed in the vicinity of East Hernietta Rd. (NY 15A).  The trail is closed for replacement of the highway bridge which the trail passes under.  There is a posted detour on streets with moderate traffic.

The detour is scheduled to continue into the fall of 2017.

ACA Mobile Route Apps / App Download process and update plans
« on: April 03, 2017, 10:30:21 am »
The whole concept is the way to go.  Thanks for your work on this tool.  I do have some questions.

First, I think I have downloaded the app.  There was no choice on the Apple App Store for just downloading the app, but it appears to have downloaded OK by selecting an actual route.  I'll be downloading the free route segment to try it out.  If this isn't how you download the app, please advise.

Second, what is AC's plan on updating the online maps and associated information?  You're certainly capable of rolling in changes right away, perhaps after verifying them.  Will the information in the Addenda for paper maps be folded into the online maps, in a timely manner?  This is really a work process question, but the process is always more important than the tool.

Third, THANK YOU for including a real Help section.  So many tablet apps have no help, no manuals, and no contact capability.  (Or its poor cousin, relying on other users in a forum for user assistance.)  You're expected to intuit how it works, and sometimes it isn't intuitive - these people make me nuts, and I refuse to use their apps.  You have a brief but apparently complete how-to, backed up by this forum.  Good job.

Fourth, will the downloaded sections align with the paper map sections, and carry the same numbering?  It would be poor form not to.  I think I saw that the sections download, just wondering if you'll  be carrying the same identifying map and section numbers.

Finally, it is my intention to purchase the Northern Tier sections that I have occasion to use.  Any idea when they'll be released?

Corridor 30 Implementation / New York and USBRS
« on: August 22, 2016, 12:59:35 pm »
I remember reading somewhere that New York wasn't really on board with the USBRS, because they'd already laid out a network of cycling routes.  Obviously NY doesn't want to expend any effort to replicate work they've already done, and as a taxpayer I appreciate that.  Duplicate signage isn't needed, for sure.

In fact, you could use NY B 517 and B 5 to implement USBRS 30,  NY B 9 to implement USBRS 9, and NY B 14 appears to go where the AC map puts USBRS 15.  This certainly counts as cycle route miles implemented, even though it doesn't go by the US routing names.

Is AC considering somehow referring to New York's existing route system?  This could also go the other way too, if NY DOT were to include references to the USBRS on their interactive map or next printing of paper maps.  Does the same situation come up in other states that have a route network, such as Pennsylvania?

There is a short detour on the canal trail, around a construction site at Hulberton, NY.  This is between Albion and Holley, NY.  Conveniently, a local road runs parallel to the canal trail, so it's just a hop off and hop back on for the trail.

The project is expected to take "several weeks".

The canal has a minor breach which has to be fixed before it becomes a major breach.  It will require draining the canal to fix.  The canal will be drained for a long stretch, between Albion and Brockport.  You'll get to see the canal drained, as locals do each winter.

The trail is closed for three miles west of Macedon, NY.  The closure is between Wayneport Rd. and NY 350.  This closure is due to bridge replacement and trail improvements at Canandaigua Rd.  This project is scheduled to be completed at the end of 2016.

I've inquired of DOT as to how long the closure will be in effect, and whether a detour will be posted.  I'll update here when they respond.

The bridge construction also changes access to a commercial campground, Twilight on the Erie RV Resort.  The resort may still be accessed by detouring on the south side of the canal using NY 31.  Detouring to the north using Quaker Rd. will not give you access to this campground.  This facility has tent camping and two cabins, and RV parking if you're sagged.

Free camping at the hiker/biker site, at Lock 30 in Macedon, should still be available.

The Franklin Falls bridge is scheduled to be closed for two weeks in July 2014.

- AC's Whiteface Mountain Alternative, which is longer but has less climbing.
- Connect Lake Placid with Bloomingdale via NY 86 and NY 3, shorter than the main route
- Connect Lake Placid with Lake Clear via NY 86 and Forest Home Rd., shorter yet

I'd recommend the Whiteface Mountain Alternative; this bit of road along Franklin Falls Pond is amazingly beautiful.  The second and third choices are good if your schedule doesn't allow extra distance.

The Erie Canalway Trail is under rehab between Pittsford and Fairport, NY.  This is on Northern Tier.  Construction is to last through 2014.  Per Canal Corp. press release, sections will be closed only as necessary.  I don't know if detours will be posted, but I'm presuming not.  A reasonable alternate route is to use NY 31, Ayrault Road and Turk Hill Road.

Routes / Canal Trail, Rochester NY
« on: June 15, 2011, 11:04:47 pm »
The Northern Tier uses the Erie Canal Trailway from Lockport NY eastward to Palmyra NY.  The section from western Rochester to Pittsford is paved, and suffers from an ongoing problem that comes and goes: tree roots causing sharp bumps in the pavement/tarmac.  Unlike a rail trail, canal trails are not lined with deep ditches and built on soil that was polluted for decades with coals from steam locomotive fireboxes; they are on good dirt with minimal drainage and lots of water nearby.  Thus, the trees actively grow roots and cause upheavals in the pavement.  (This is not a problem on the unpaved parts.)

When the pavement gets too bumpy the Canal Corporation scares up some money and repaves it.  This alternates as sections get bumpy.  Right now, one section has gotten bumpy enough that you need to exercise caution: between Kendrick Road and East Henrietta Road.  I would still recommend using the canal trail, but watch your speed and avoid the bumps if you can.

The road alternative over this part of the trail, NY Bike 5, is a horrible route.  It uses Elmwood Avenue and Monroe Avenue, both of which have no bike lane and four lanes of medium-to-heavy traffic.  Drivers on western Elmwood, around Strong Hospital, seem to always be impatient and intolerant of bikes.  So stay on the trail, but stay on your toes.

Corridor Plan Updates & Routing Within Corridors / Alternate routes?
« on: November 02, 2009, 01:33:24 pm »

My name is Dale Oswald and I live near Rochester, NY.  I'm an active tourist, solo and with my wife, singles and tandem.  I have the good fortune to live within a mile of the Northern Tier, and regularly host travelling cyclists.

My specific question is: Does the proposed route selection process make provision for alternate routes?  A good example of a use for this would be to provide on- and off-road routes.  Consider our the Erie Canalway trail, the route of the Northern Tier hereabouts.  It has long sections that are nicely improved but unpaved, and NY Bike 5 parallels it for a long distance.  Riders might prefer untrafficed, slower, more scenic trail - or good roads that are faster and perhaps a bit less scenic.   They might elect the unpaved if it's dry and the paved if it's raining.

Do the various agencies have the discretion to create alternante routes through a specific corridor?


Temporary ACA Route Road Closures / Adirondak Park Loop, Map 3 - 2009
« on: September 08, 2009, 12:44:51 pm »
Grist Mill Rd., near Stony Creek, NY is closed for construction and is impassible (Sept 09).  The marked detour adds about 4 miles to the route.

The bridge is being replaced.  I could find no projected completion date on the web.  At this time, the old bridge is removed and the new one is being prepared for concrete pour (rebar in place).  I would guess it will reopen sometime during 2010.

Connecting ACA Routes / Minnesota Beeline
« on: May 28, 2007, 11:17:37 pm »
In 2005, we rode from Fargo ND to Winona MN via the trails that parallel I-94.  We chose to do this rather than using the AC Northern Tier for 1) more trail mileage and 2) to visit Minneapolis.  Our route was:
- CR54 to Fergus Falls
- Central Lakes and Lake Wobegon Trails to St. Cloud
- County roads and suburban trails to Minneapolis
- Streets and trails through Minneapolis
- County and state highways to Cannon Falls
- Cannon Valley Trail to Red Wing
- Highways to Winona

We liked this routing.  Have any of you used it?

AC's routing via the southern option is about 440 miles.  We didn't take the shortest route possible so we rode 460.  We enjoyed the trails and a day off in the city.  There is a decent network of trails and good bike maps for getting through Minneapolis.

Classifieds / Looking for 19" Terry Trixie
« on: July 25, 2005, 03:26:16 pm »
Any leads?  We need low stepover for a 5'2" with back problems (need low stepover height).

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