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Yes, U.S. population has grown, but it has been highly concentrated.
A third of U.S. counties have lost population since 1975.
Nearly all of these countries are rural - where the ACA routes are or could be.
More moderate traffic roads have shoulders than in 1975.
Plus rail trails - which didn't exist in 1975.

Speeds, however, are faster. As is distracted driving - i.e. phones.
Of course, 8-track tapes getting caught was a serious problem back in 1975.

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Dear Adventure Cycling board members and past leaders,

The single most important goal in the coming 6 months is to reach out to former members.
Although the disagreements of the past year may appear to be a net negative, the vote against the sale and the recognition by the board that they have been off course may yet be a positive factor in regaining past members. Regaining half the lost members - if possible - would largely offset the income from the sale of the headquarters building.

However, there also has to be a willingness to listen. I believe that ACA’s leadership has been in an echo chamber for the past 5 years. That’s easy to do in this electronic age because we can seek out confirming views and block any opposing ones.The echo chamber is part and parcel of our media. Also, when most people leave, they simply leave without saying. Very few take the time to share the reasons for their departure. But remember, the largest pool of potential members is the 32,000 people who have left ACA over the past 5 years.

That leads to the second goal - an effective survey of current and as many past members as possible. That is increasingly hard to do. Most people ignore the constant bombardment of surveys. Even the New York Times surveys rarely have a response rate larger than 1%-2%. I have a background in surveying. I no longer am startled when clients want specific results. Which underscores a reason for nonresponse - that it is useless to try to respond and be heard. To have an effective survey, past and present members need to be convinced that their views - and not just their money - matter.

Whether or not the survey is done in house or by consultants is debatable. Given the very specific nature of bicycle touring and the likelihood that survey consultants may not have the knowledge to ask the right questions in the right manner, it may be preferable to do the survey internally. It can be designed as both a short and longer survey depending on the time and interest of the respondent. Also, it can be either anonymous or with contact information. But most importantly - - now is the time to do a survey.

The third goal is far more difficult. Bicycling is in serious decline in the United States. A recent Atlantic article pointed out that childhood bicycling has dropped 50% in the past 25 years, frequent riding even more. For boomers, the bicycle racks at school were full, 6 or 8 racks overflowing. Now, there is a single rack with 2 or 3 bikes. People are unlikely to go bike touring if they have never even ridden to school or the store. Gravel bikepacking may appeal to the dramatically reduced population of riders, but young adults with little experience riding will most likely prefer pavement - empty pavement - but pavement. It’s a both/and proposition. Gravel and pavement.

The opportunities presented now will be short-lived. It will be tough. It will require a significant change in approach. Be it can be done.

Sincerely,
John Egan, Buffalo, Wyoming

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I see something that jmlysne and DW share - -
They both appear to want to keep Adventure Cycling in years to come.
They just disagree on how to do that.

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Building Sale Discussion Area / Re: Building Sales Vote
« on: January 28, 2026, 12:21:15 pm »
It takes time to get the results you want.
Be patient.

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Jan. 31

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General Discussion / Why Adventure Cycling Is at This Juncture
« on: January 19, 2026, 09:40:56 am »
I just read a post elsewhere on the forums which neatly encapsulates all that is wrong with ACA.

1 The poster quotes one of the countless marketing emails from ACA:

"This Isn't Happening Without You"

2) And they offer their response:

"Then I guess it's not happening because you lost me
(and my substantial estate planning donation) a while ago and have not taken steps get me back.
And I feel the need to write that the shiftiness re: the sale is extremely concerning. 
Really seems like something is rotten in Denmark.  Shame on you."


<<<>>>

"Because you lost me"
And lost 31,999 other members - from 50,000 in 2020 down to 18,000 now.

I have been involved in the bike touring community and have been a member of ACA for 40+ years.
I started hearing comments similar to this 3-4 years ago and they have multiplied.

Quite simply, the leadership at ACA made serious mistakes over the past 3-4 years.
And they have been lockstep in their denial of any responsibility for the organization's massive decline.
The current leadership prides itself on its progressive views,
yet the primary reason offered in the initial vote notification was the "ageing out" of boomer riders.
That was not only ageist, but factually wrong, since 32,000 riders do not age out in 3-4 years.
It was also financially blockheaded since this is the cohort which primarily funds ACA.

I am also flummoxed that the current leadership chose to stonewall the SaveACA group
rather than find some sort of compromise - given the number of past leaders represented.
It appears to many that the decision to define the conflict as "old guard" vs. "new guard"
was made early on by current ACA leadership. Their language indicates as much.
And it was completely unnecessary.

I am not opposed to the sale of the headquarters building, per se.
I have visited ACA's headquarters many times and appreciate its history.
However, the sale of the headquarters will do nothing to change the decline at ACA,
unless there is, first, a serious inventory of past errors and, second, an effective plan for the future.


* This is not posted under "Building Sale" because the issue is far more than the sale of the building.

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Building Sale Discussion Area / Re: Dispute Resolution Not Litigation
« on: January 18, 2026, 01:55:07 pm »
We are still never going to fill that building with 40 people again.  It just will not happen.

As I have stated elsewhere, my concern is less about the building and far more about mismanagement.
The $2.5 million they receive from a building sale will be gone in a New York minute if things continue as they have.
I am opposed to the building sale because it is simply pouring the money down a black hole.

PS - If anyone has a conflict of interest, it is the paid staff who have a monetary interest in finding a new funding source.

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Building Sale Discussion Area / Re: Dispute Resolution Not Litigation
« on: January 17, 2026, 06:57:36 pm »
No, CDT.

ACA's recent and current board:
Hired an ED with no bicycle touring experience.
Focused on ineffective marketing and woke policies.
Drove the membership down from 50,000 to 18,000.
Blew thru a $2 million reserve.

Doesn't sound like a problem with the old guard to me.
Sounds like a profoundly incompetent new guard.

The lawsuit is not helpful,
but it may get their attention.

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Building Sale Discussion Area / Re: lawsuit attached
« on: January 16, 2026, 06:31:18 pm »
I'm all for settling this stupid thing ....
While that might satisfy the "keep the building at all costs" crowd ...

Elsewhere you indicated that you didn't have a horse in the race.
It sounds as if you do.

I will state again - the current leadership could have avoided this.
They chose not to.

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Building Sale Discussion Area / Re: Dispute Resolution Not Litigation
« on: January 16, 2026, 05:40:32 pm »
I am not a fan of lawsuits - especially in the nonprofit area.
However, they are sometimes necessary to indicate the seriousness of the problem.

Up until now, the current leadership at ACA has shown zero interest in any kind of dialog.
One might think that a proposal that drew the opposition of nearly all former leaders
might cause the current leadership to pause and reconsider.
Especially in a member-based nonprofit. Not so with the current leaders.

Instead, they have appeared to many to have offered a one-choice "solution".
They have appeared to control the information available to members.
They have failed to offer any thorough analysis of the massive decline in members and funds.
The recent Zoom meeting only confirmed these observations.
It is regrettable that ACA has come to this juncture. But not a surprise.

When ACA hired Jenn O'Dell after Scott Pankratz's short tenure, I was concerned.
She had a background in marketing, but little to no experience in bicycle touring.
I suspected something amiss among board members and feared for ACA's future.
But, I had no idea the damage would be as great as it has been.

During O'Dell's tenure, ACA became increasingly aligned with social/political views on the left.
Not surprising since Missoula is the Berkeley of the Rockies and bike touring is kinda lefty.
But not all cyclists are card-carrying progressives. Also, there is a question of organizational focus.
Required land statements, pronouns, BIPOC emphasis are fundamentally performative.
However, they also have the net impact of driving people away, even liberals.
The majority of ACA's members came for bicycle touring, not intersectional analysis.

I would love to see the current dispute settled outside of the courts.
I agree that the very future of ACA is at stake.
But I am not confident that the current leadership is willing or able.



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Building Sale Discussion Area / Re: lawsuit attached
« on: January 16, 2026, 05:17:26 pm »
Looks like a fairly strong case.
There is plenty of evidence for much of what is alleged.
It will cost ACA significantly unless settled quickly out of court.
ACA's current management has only itself to blame.

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Building Sale Discussion Area / Re: Why I am voting Yes
« on: January 16, 2026, 01:04:21 pm »
So stop the whining,

Doesn't sound very respectful to me ....

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Building Sale Discussion Area / Re: The Prime Directive
« on: January 14, 2026, 01:07:38 pm »
Adventure Cycling is not a mainline Protestant Church -
although its headquarters is a former church building.

I have been at the headquarters a half dozen or more times.
It's a nice experience, but not essential for ACA.
But that's not the issue for me and many others.
The issue is how the current leadership has gutted the organization
and spent through 2+ million dollars.

With zero review of the reasons for the current situation.
So, the building sale is a moot point.
Because any moneys received will be gone in short order - -
unless there is a serious review and a serious plan.

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Bikecentennial / Adventure Cycling was one of the few organizations I supported 100% for many years.
I can no longer say that. And from what I am hearing, many others feel the same way.


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