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I’m way late to the party but I used to drive across the Brookport bridge all the time. It’s a grated steel deck, single lane each way and no shoulder. No way at all i’d Ride a bike across it.

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General Discussion / NYC to CHI vs. Eastern Express
« on: October 15, 2019, 01:57:42 pm »
Hello all,
I’m multi-stage tripping across the US. Starting on the Jersey shore, ending in Washington state.  We started following the NYC to CHI route via the philly alternative.  Eventually we’ll join up with the TAT then head West out of Missoula. Right now I’m contemplating the route from Pittsburgh to Indianapolis. Looks like the NYC to CHI and the Eastern Express cover slightly different but largely similar routes. Does anyone have first hand experience on either route or can offer a comparison analsysis of the two routes?  I’m riding with 2 12-14 year old boys. We’re in no hurry and like to see what there is to see.

Thanks,
Joe

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General Discussion / Re: Just sad...
« on: October 10, 2019, 11:15:26 am »
The allure of relative freedom is enticing. No question about that. The challenge is how to get there faster, further.

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General Discussion / Re: Riding w/ kids
« on: August 23, 2019, 03:02:51 pm »
We ended up staying on the ACA CHI-NYC route. The wife drove ahead a day or something and it looked flatter and ended up working well. We averaged ~48-55 miles a day which is less than I expected but exactly how long the kids could stay focused mentally. We also took 2 additional days off the bike at resort/campground dL and the kids had a blast. Basically we made it from Pt Pleasant Beach NJ to Paw Paw WV.

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General Discussion / Re: Riding w/ kids
« on: August 22, 2019, 02:38:31 pm »
Neil - you mention traffic riding vs rails to trails with kids - I have to say my kids enjoyed riding through cities more than the country side and it wasn’t even close.

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General Discussion / Re: Riding w/ kids
« on: May 14, 2019, 10:20:27 pm »
Neil - appreciate the feedback and advice. We’re off in 10 days or so, so we’re getting excited. Thanks.

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General Discussion / Re: Riding w/ kids
« on: May 08, 2019, 05:09:20 pm »
You are going to need appropriate bikes and tires for the portion of the route that is on the GAP and, more importantly, the C&O, which can be quite muddy after periods of sustained rain.

Traffic on PA 234 heading into York, PA can be quite heavy during rush hour. PA 462 into Lancaster, PA was also pretty busy on a Friday late morning. It's difficult to ascertain from the interactive map the exact route east of Lancaster, but it looks like it uses PA 23 east of New Holland, PA until PA 100. If so, I wouldn't go that way. I cringe when I see Amish kids riding it.  The section through Elverson has no shoulder and can be quite busy thanks to the nearby shopping center that includes a Walmart. There is also need to stay on PA 23 unti

There is a much nicer alternative that parallels PA 23 until a more bike-friendly stretch that includes a covered bridge. It also takes you through French Creek State Park, which has a large campground with some electric sites. (Reservations for a weekend night might be a good idea. The place can fill up on weekend.) Likely more climbing, but infinitely better riding.  I can map it for you if you'd like.
That’s extremely helpful and greatly appreciated. Any addition route into or guidance would be great. I’ll take the information you’ve already provided and adjust accordingly.

Thanks again.

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General Discussion / Re: Riding w/ kids
« on: May 07, 2019, 04:41:31 pm »
When we ride as a family we’re generally with 10-15 yards of each other.  No one rides ahead separates. On longer trips I assume this will be a bit more challenging but we’ll figure it out.

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GPS & Digital Data Discussion / Re: Advice on mapping plan
« on: May 06, 2019, 12:55:25 pm »
Rush man - good perspective on the ability to wander. Thanks.

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General Discussion / Re: Riding w/ kids
« on: May 06, 2019, 12:54:09 pm »
The kids are completely different humans too. One can go all day and never blink, the other not so much. Certainly something that needs to be monitored and managed (may that’s a good chunk of parenting?). 

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General Discussion / Re: Riding w/ kids
« on: May 06, 2019, 11:05:26 am »
John - appreciate the feedback as always. I may have undersold the boys’ ability here somewhat. When they were 8 and 10 years old we rode the KATY trail (we live in St Louis). 10 year old did 50+ miles / day for 3 days in a row and never faded. The 8 yr old did 30+ on a Walmart Bmx bike and did fine.  With 3 years of growth the physical side won’t be an issue for either, they’re beasts.  We had originally planned on taking the TAT but a NJ wedding has moved the starting point of the trip. It does appear to me that the NYC to CHI via philly alt is quite a bit flatter than the TAT, at least for the first ~500 miles or so leaving the eastern seaboard. Am I reading that correctly?

As you mention the bigger challenge is keeping the kids engaged mentally and emotionally. I plan on stopping at every ice cream shop, putt-putt golf course and look out if we ever find a carnival or fair. We’re in no hurry, we’ll cover whatever miles we cover and we plan on finishing a cross country trip next summer.  This summer is NJ shore to OH. Next summer OH to WA.

Thanks again.

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GPS & Digital Data Discussion / Re: Advice on mapping plan
« on: May 06, 2019, 09:02:22 am »
John - as always very helpful information and much appreciated. The boys are 11 and 13 so we’ll be together at all times.  With confirmation i’ll Buy both the app data and the hard maps.

Thanks.

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General Discussion / Re: Riding w/ kids
« on: May 06, 2019, 08:55:22 am »
I should also note we have essentially no experience whatsoever in bike touring.

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General Discussion / Riding w/ kids
« on: May 06, 2019, 08:54:22 am »
Couple of basic questions:  We’re going t tackle the Chicago to New York route via the Phil’s alternate in a couple of weeks. Will have the 11 year old and 13 riding along with me (dad) while mom is driving the trailer up ahead from overnight camping location to location.

1) from an ordering standpoint, I assume you would generally have the kids ride in front of you (you in back) so that you can watch both the kids. Probably the rest way to do it?
2) any thoughts on controlling group speed?  The 13 can and will want to fly. The 11 year old isn’t as fast. They’re brothers so they’ll find a way to argue over it.  Any tips are appreciated.

Thanks

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GPS & Digital Data Discussion / Advice on mapping plan
« on: May 06, 2019, 08:46:47 am »
In a couple of weeks the family is going to take the Chicago to New York route. I have a couple of questions regarding maps / directions:
1) am planning on using the ACA app and then buying the sections we need.  I believe this gives me the route to follow - does it also give turn by turn directions?
2) also planning on buying the hard copy maps - I assume this makes sense?
3) any tips, tricks, risks or downside to using the app instead of a digital device? 

100% new to this so I appreciate any advice you all may have.

Thanks

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